Conspiracy Theory: THIS is one world control system.

`cause the jester is the only 1 allowed to mock the king.


btw, why did you "suppress" 14?


edits
reply to the post underneath: can`t do. you said it`s a self-service joint, yourself. anyway, i`m just having fun, as you must have realised by now. (thx for the orthography hint)

[edit on 30/10/2009 by maoklein]

GEEZ! No No wait, I think I see a way out of this one!

EYE KNEW THAT!!!





Incidentally, i did not "SUPPRESS" the number 14.

For reasons which are unclear to me, I did not include it in my notes.

I am but a flawed individual.

But, at least i'm in GOOD company!

;D


Perhaps, you could FILL a GAP with that one? Help me out even! I still have so far to go!

~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

[edit on 30-10-2009 by LightBenderKev]

As the question was yes or no.

No.

uhh could you elaborate on what you mean? Are you someone who would be able to negate or confirm this inquiry? On what grounds do you negate my rhetorical question, im curious?

Perhaps, the "people" require more "EVIDENCE"?

A second round perhaps? Sure. I'm "game"

This is the NUMBer 2!

The NUMBer, TWO, represents DUALITY(Obviously right?!) To elaborate, it represents "the duality nature of the messiah concept"(light-dark~Christ~Anti-Christ).

I think I can even forgo any kind of regurgitated Kevin nonsense with this NUMBer, the notion of DUALITY being so pervasive in our shared environs.

Ying Yan
Good Bad
Right Wrong
Yes No
Me You
Us Them
Why Why Not
Here There
Blonde Brunnette(BOTH!!! ;D)

if i wasnt a clown for 34 years, I might have been trained in all the world's culture's so that I could have been a walking talking rosetta stone for everyone to goOGLE at.

Perhaps the realization of these other "intellectual" systems will just, POP into my "HEAD", and then I could be that.

My WISDOM of course, realizes that this is not how THIS THING wants to BREATHE itself out. No matter how lazy I try to be with it, its AT ONCE totally infectious.


Nice and deep now......IN(hold it, hold it!!!)
Alright, now let it OUT!(pshoooooooooo!)


I assume you will disagree with this NUMBer explanation as well?

You WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO BASE ANOTHER IDEA ON!

Nuremburg established that "just takin' orders" don't cut it anymore! You can't disprove a negative, so, ya know...

Until you bring a slice of Pie, don't try and cut it on mine sir!

Wishing you the brightest of days!


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

It is good you chose to start with duality because you can see even with the examples you have given the duality is merely an illusion.

All the examples you have listed are actually singularities, you consider them to be two seperate expressions, when in fact they are simply different ends of the same line.

Perhaps that is why you suggest 3 = pyramid. I do not know to be fair.

A 2d Triangle is a good representation of the idea that 1 is 2 and 2 is 1, however as you used the word pyramid I assumed you are suggesting a 3 dimensional model (or making an esoteric reference).

Either way I found it doubtful the second part of the chain would be duality (as I dont believe it exists outside of an illusionary state), if anything depending on what pyramid represents I would have placed it in the second chain.

Then both 4 and 8 are very similar concepts, why invoke the same element twice.

Part 9 has come very late in the equation, some sources would even place it before part 1.

Part 13 makes me sad.

Therefore I say no.

Communication received! And thank you for those IMPRESSIONS.

I will try to be more concise about these things which I am only coming to terms with NOW!

Indeed you are correct when you imply the esoteric connection.

I had to test the waters first...im a bit reticent like that. I believe none of us NEED safety vests at work, because we have SELF AWARENESS, NO?

Alas, it seems there was more to this SELF AWARENESS notion than i imagined.

Something about SACRIFICING EGO - to REALIZE SELF.

Getting to what you said about the "illusion" of duality, I can only HUMBLY agree, and waste not one more NOW dwelling over my error!

Yes, when taken into account that Coke and Pepsi are merely different DEGREES of the same measurement(what kind of Cola DEFINES ME as a PERSON!), it becomes somewhat OBVIOUS that they are merely arbitrations(is that a word? oh yea, there are no WORDS, only Perceptions of words, so as long as i'm understood, I could call it ShabboobedyDOO. I'll just stick with the former clownery)

As i've said earlier, arbitrations require HUMAN THOUGHT FORMS(ENERGY) to PROVIDE THE MEANING! This is the "DIVISION" of polarity.

All of which, of course, are GREAT BIG LIES! It's not like I believe these things.

I believe i'm stupidly bumping into a lightbulb in the deep recesses of the WISDOM STATE.

"All you need to change your world, is to change the way you think about it."

or, to masturbate a little for y'all:


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~


ps, ill just throw some more NUMBers out there, assuming we're past the Frankenpoint.

stay tuned....

The number 3.

The number 3, in my understanding, and i do hope some you others who understand these things will continue to evidence what a "Neo" looks like, when he first "sees the code". Well, to be all crass about it(sorry Keanu, no ILLUSORY MALICE INTENDED! ;D), ya know, all Keanu about it?(think WHOAH!)

The number three represents the holy connection. You can observe the 3 sides to a triANGLE quite easily.

I think tho, THIS is my favorite example of a triANGEL:
www.whiz.se...
(note: if anyone could pm me how to include neat visuals in my post, i think i might be able to elevate my gameplay!)

Another association to the number 3-triANGLE - is the Trinity of religion. And if Esoteric Agenda folk have their LINES together, I understand not just one major religion, but ALL OF THEM.

I am a buffoon, and will only be able to state thusly:
In the name of the FATHER
and of the SON
and of the HOLY GHOST

AAAAAAAMUN RA!(oops sorry, composure slipped a lils)

or Osiris Isis and Horus.

Can anyone elaborate on this notion?

I guess the most esoteric addition I can add at THIS NOW, are the PROPERTIES OF A LIGHT BEAM. I'll let those who say it SOOOOOO much better than I do, say so - Ladies and Gentlemen the Great Wickedpedia!:
en.wikipedia.org...

Would i be correct in alluding to the dynamics of "hegelian" dialectics here also? Maybe point out the atom thing again?


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

4 x 4 POWER!!!

The NUMBer FOUR, which I indulgently alluded to being the BOX we are all stuck in.

I won't point out what will be obvious to others soon, why the "box" is so, I don't know, sexually suggestive(oh $&#* I just pointed it out didn't EYE? lolzers on me! DOOF!)

Anyways...

the number 4 represents the 4 sided FOUNDATION(CORNER) STONE of underSTANDing.
(the passage of information is muddled on this one! help!)

Four also symbolizes the "MOTHER GODDESS" - our 3d realm of existence("Think outside the box"), which is MANIFESTED BY THE 3 ingredients required to observe PHYSICAL MATTER.

Or am i falling down again?


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

what your saying seems to be working with the hiddenhand postings that I now sit here decoding and paraphrasing and understanding more

reply to post by knightsof0ld

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ye olde king, i was under this impression :O

although, i might be wrong

one more before my eyelids become MASTER

I'll say this much for sure

NOTHING WORTH DOING IS EASY!!

For me, to come over there, take it in, and spit it back out, has been an "education" all its own.

In my humble opinion, PROGRESS has been made. And we shall have allow for some breathing.

I will come back after my shift, and the dialogue will continue.

Thank you ONE and ALL for reading, and/or setting down a pillow, so that falling wouldn't be so hard on my ass!

;D


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

reply to post by maoklein

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sometimes it is required to play devils advocate
other times it is required to be the encourager

both are to further development

Protect and Serve, WE are on the JOB.


Let's begin again NOW!

One other thing, thanks for the read Mao.

~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

[edit on 30-10-2009 by LightBenderKev]

Allow me to QUOTE FROM THE SOURCE(why try, when someone else says it so much better than me):

"Religion has hypnotized the human race. We have been convinced we are lost sinners and in dire need of a saviour. This fear-based trauma tactic has deceived humanity for centuries.

It is imperative to explain the many forms religion manifests itself. Our hope is the insidious and conniving mindset of the luciferian hypnosis will be recognized. This involves examining the origin of the number system. The creation of astrological, numerological and scientific formulae are based on the multiples of 10 and 12. We were introduced to these in grade school as the 10 times table and the 12 times table.

When simplified, the number system is based on 1, 2 and 3. The number system manipulates 1 beam of light with the duality of 2 opposing characteristics(ahem!) – positive and negative – north and south – male and female. These characteristics along with others, form the duality of religion. A beam of light has 3 primary colours (red – yellow – blue), 3 primary shapes (a line – curve – angle), 3 primary parts to sound (volume – tone – rhythm).

The system that manipulates energy can easily manipulate humanity when enough methods of seduction (or enough wires of thought, which is energy, are coiled around us, as in an electromagnetic field) are introduced. These systems are derived (similar to the basic religious trinity idea – see home page), from the manipulation of a beam of light. The single beam of light is highly symbolic and immensely powerful to the luciferian egregore group mind."

Pretty straight forward right? Read on:

"Notice that the illustration on the light beam chart depicts the atom symbol. The three primary colours overlap in the centre forming a hexagon. The hexagon represents the light of the world and is seen as black. The black hexagon is the pupil of the eye, the all seeing eye, the illuminated knowledge used to manipulate humanity."

Now let's just pause again. Take a few breaths, look at it. And re-merge with it.

If anybody finds themselves keeping along, please PM me NOW! There are more qualified technicians standing by to "clean up Kev mess on aisle four please!" They are simply BURSTING to provide the explanations or articulations you just can't seem to throw up at this NOW! For everyone else, I apologize for not going all the way here! I still feel like a potential Doctor, ready to cram some hypo in some poor buggers arm and explain some BS reason he needs to come and see me 3, 4 times a year.

Having said this, let us return to the NUMBer CYSTem itself.


Stand by....

~~~---~~~Outward Change Begins Within~~~---~~~

Me thinks you might be better off asking some questions instead of pretending you have some answers to questions you readily admit you only have a partial and recent grasp of.

Most of the people who post to these forums are capable of understanding complex and multi-layered situations, problems and solutions.

I myself am not looking to be led, or enlightened, play riddle games or other such nonsense with people who can't say what they mean and don't mean what they say.

Do you have a coherent message you wish to share engage people with and exchange thoughts and information on?

It would seem the one most stuck in the matrix on this thread is you friend as you try to design your own to suck people into.

Some people are known to jump out of the frying pan right into the fire.

Sure enough it's a change, not exactly an improvement though.

Good luck winning friends and influencing enemies with this thread!



[edit on 31/10/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

Again, I will quote the things I am unable to articulate in better thought form fashion:

"Number 1

Number one is a new day, a new age of reason and a new start. In short, it’s the supreme god concept blowing its own horn and thumping its own chest while announcing to its conjured up creation: Let the worship and adoration of ME, the ALL SEEING EYE, begin!

The examination of the origin of numbers may seem trivial. You might say, “So what if number 1 came from this source and number 2 came from another … and so on?” Without this manufactured number system there could be no astrology, no numerology, no science and no form of magic (which is what these systems are, and have been referred to throughout history). Magic was the word given to the unexplained. Anything that deceived in the seen or unseen realm was looked upon as magic. Of course, we now know everything physical is only light energy, and the ability to manipulate this energy draws from the scientific to the esoteric, of which there is no difference. All energy manipulation, whether scientific or esoteric, is produced by applying the number system. There could be no religion or science without a number system, and therefore no hypnosis of humanity. The number system, instituted in formulating any language system, "creates a thought pattern" used to manipulate the mind and thereby create a 3 dimensional veil of deceit.

ONE = WON = NOW = NWO – The New World Order subliminal is hidden in the number 1."

Just so everybody knows, I am going to take my time on this. This is going to be difficult to follow for some, and I will make certain I do not muddle what I am attempting to share, with everyone, by copy-pasting the wrong things, at the wrong times.

Again, if this is some jive, you're already familiar with, but still can't see where it's going, THERE ARE THOSE WHO WISH TO HELP, just as you see them helping me.

PM me, and I will try to ascertain the best way to lead you to the door. Or go ahead and comment right here, and perhaps you will illicit responses that will help to order this information.

I will prepare the next post, in the meantime, does anybody have anything they would care to elaborate on, in regards to what has been posted thus far? Please, feel FREE!

~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

I implictly understand what you are telling me. I will take some time to breathe.

My own observations tell me that while some are definitely more than ready for the next step, there are some who may be new to this game. It is for their well-being I engage in the manner I do.

Again, I welcome any comments and/or questions in regards to my posts. I will address SPECIFICALLY, SPECIFIC issues. Thanks for the words of warning, friend, i take them deeply into consideration. However, while I may fall short in articulating these things, i'm not sure yet, that I have questions to ask. I'm sure, as the need arises, I will do so. Friends and enemies? I have enough friends in my "real" world, I didn't come here to make friends with anyone.

I came because I had a gigantic f'ing hole where my heart should have been. I look around me into the eyes of the people I work with, and i see the same look in their eyes, feel the weight of their burden in my heart, and soul. It's time to get rid of those "feelings".

There are enough of us here, to steer the course.

Having said that, the breathing.


~~--~~Outward Change Begins Within~~--~~

This is from one system of language. ONE is not universal. In the Old english and Middle English, one is an. I think you are falling into a description were you centralize something that is supposed to be Global around one particular culture or society. In this case you use English, the English use of One and then you twist it to fit in with your source, the NWO.

I think you make the same mistake with Numeral systems. Many parts of our lives are reliant on numeric systems, but there are more than one. The one we are most familiar with now is the Hindu Arabic system.
So effectively you are relying on the english translation of the Hindu Arabian numerical system to equal the NWO.

The only Sublimation I find is that you want it there. So you have found it with this It is not hidden in the number 1. You translated that in english, to ONE and then you found a word that sounded the same:Won. You changed the letters of that word that sounded the same, Won to Now and then you swapped the letters around to create NWO. There is nothing subliminal about that at all, but there is a hell of a lot of manipulation going on from your own part.

So I will politely disagree with your theory.

Why does that have to be done privately. Are you recruiting? That is against T&C you know!



I think you need to elaborate more. I find your posts deliberately vague, but they are interesting.

Hello Light!!
Really Interesting!

I Feel something that I understand but I don'y know how I know it!
Please continue!

Frami

[edit on 31-10-2009 by frami12]

Yes, I will elaborate. Just not on any notions. I think you have been selective in your comparison between Egyptian mythical figures and those of the Christian Trinity.

Are you using Zeitgeist:The Movie, as a source?

The above reference to the Mythology surrounding the Christian religion and the Egyptian have long been abused so as to paint Christianity(and the main protagonists) as descending from or being a hybridization of other religions. There are numerous claims that Jesus' tale is that of Mithra, Horus and Attis. But closer inspection of the sources of these claims is required.
For starters, Horus and Isis where born from Geb and Nut. They were brother and sister who Conceived Horus (oh! the scandal), they had another sister named Nepthys and a brother named Set. So now we have Geb and Nut, Osiris, Isis and Nepthys and Set. Why did you just pick Osiris and Isis in your TriANGEL?
Horus has many different versions of the tale, Horus was also considered the Son of Ra, and then the Son of Osiris so I cannot see the TriANGEL you paint as a comparison.
Horus also has a brother. In the tale of Osiris, Isis and Horus, it is Osiris who is resurrected aswell as the Son Horus. Also there are no actual Egyptian sources that claim Horus was born from a Virgin, or that Isis was a virgin. No Egyptian Sources claim this. Just others claiming it. Like yourself dare I say it.
Other comparisons are made between Jesus and Krishna(but Krishna was the eighth child), Jesus and Dionysus( mother Selene sleeps with Zeus), Mithra, but only by Joseph Campbell as the myth itself states that Mithra was born of rock.

Yes. So what is your predetermination then and is there any point directing the reasoning anywhere else but where you want it to go?


I don't see a synthesis of oppositions here.

[edit on 31/10/09 by atlasastro]