The Ancients Series | Part I: Sumerians, page 2

Originally posted by hdchop
Question though - What happened to "Lilith"? Supposedly the first woman created “with” AD.AM before EVE and the rib? How does she or was she or did she get placed in by myth and imagination?

Love Part 1

Thank you!!

Lets see.

The Akkadian spelling would be either Lilit or Lilitu. Already we can see that this is from the Sumerian lil which means 'air'. One source says NIN.LIL which means 'lady of the air'. Consider the fact that Enlil himself was the God of air, breath, etc. Relationship? Wife?

Originally posted by Springer
FABULOUS!

Thank you for this great work!

Springer...

Cheers, you're welcome.

Originally posted by Jsmallz
I was going to put something like this together but you beat me to it

But thanks for doing this i love reading about the ancients

But question wouldn't it be safe to say that Enki and Enlil where both serpents since are brothers

Interesting question. Enlil is usually referred to as King of the Lands, or derivations of that. I haven't come across to any references of Enlil being a snake before. This could be because of the strong associations of the snake to Enki alone, contributing to the conflict?

Originally posted by Rockpuck

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Best wishes for your Ancients Series which provides some basic education on concepts that have often been used on ATS but their origin and context rarely understood.

Basic indeed.. I couldn't read past the first post me self, from an "academic" viewpoint, it is a butchery of history.. and a great, great deal of speculation. Biblical references and lizard aliens typically tune me out. I am unsure of why people have recently taken to.. I don't know.. trying to make ancient Gods into aliens or real Gods even.. Why can't a story, be a story?

Excuse me? Would you like to offer anything more than 'speculation' when it comes to mythology? Who said this is not just a story? We are discussing ANCIENT MESOPOTAMIAN MYTHS, whether or not one finds some oddities and inconsistencies within these MYTHS and chooses to believe part or whole is up to their own discretion, but we are discussing MYTHS as they are, so no, i have not 'taken' to anything. I would be very honored to hear your interpretation of Sumerian MYTHS from an 'academic viewpoint' though.

Originally posted by J-in-TX
reply to post by serbsta

Great post.

I just hope that Part II: The Egyptians does not start with that story of how Egypt got its name. The idea that the name came from the daughter (Egypt) of Ham and his wife Egyptus, did not exist until the 1830's. The idea comes from Joseph Smith's Book of Abraham.

Also, if this is to be your source, then the garden of eden was located in Jackson County, Missouri and not in ancient Mesopotamia.

The name used in the Hebrew bible for Egypt is Mitzraim. The word is plural most likly referring to 2 Egypts (upper and lower). The Assyrian and Babylonian records called Egypt, Musur and Musri.

Other than that, Great post.

Ah yes, you are correct. I think i should have mentioned that. I was simply using it as one example, for the sake of 'logic'. That's why i said whether fictional or not, it was just an example to work upon the Sumerian name.

You are correct though, thanks for mentioning that.

Once again i would just like to post the purpose of this thread: to have a guide here for those who are new to this area and are interested in getting the basics and exploring the main areas of interest for each civilization.

Cheers.

[edit on 29/10/2009 by serbsta]