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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet
I know some may attack this, As it is staged but it still is just nice. Just something about it make me pause I cant quite put my fingers on it, maybe some of you other vets can tell me why?
Originally posted by AllexxisF1
Even when the guy does something classy and respectful the Repugs still come out of the woodwork complaining.
Even a staunch Conservative I work with came up to me this morning and said "Your guy did a really classy thing last night".
Why don't you park that damn idiotic pride and have some respect for the 18 men that died last week. The President took time in his schedule to do it, why don't you.
By the way the guy who said Obama did a classy thing, his son was one of the DEA agents on that helicopter that barely survived in Iraq a few days ago. He was just talking to him last week on Skype from the office.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I agree with buddha. And jam, a war can be fought without troops. I think we should make a hasty exit and work with intelligence communities for a SMART war. I HATE what we are doing there and if I had Obama's ear, I'd BEG him to leave. We don't belong there. We didn't have any right going there. We should correct the problem, not get further involved.
I just hope he changed his mind. It could happen. Especially after watching dead soldiers return home.
Originally posted by dizzie56
Having the intel comm get involved at all is crap imo. The only thing they are good for is spying on people, which is what they were created for...not to run our wars.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by dizzie56
Having the intel comm get involved at all is crap imo. The only thing they are good for is spying on people, which is what they were created for...not to run our wars.
Agreed. Let me explain.
I was going on the assumption that we went onto Afghanistan to find Bin Laden. If that's the reason we're still there, then the CIA should find him and we'll take him out. (I know he's not still there). If that's NOT the reason we're there, or if he's not there, then we should get the hell out of Afghanistan. If Bin Laden is in Pakistan, the CIA should find him and we'll take him out. If he's dead, then we should bring all our troops home. Mission accomplished. War over.
This all started as a means to find Bin Laden. If he's not there, we shouldn't be, either.
Originally posted by dizzie56
Im really just afraid that if we leave right now then we will create a power vacuum that will only be filled with more jihadis and all the men and women who have died over there would have died for nothing.
The handpicked gen of Obama's says he can win the war with a surge of troops, why not give it to him?
Originally posted by jibeho
Furthermore, this photo op is just a response to the criticisms for not showing enough respect for our troops in general.
Originally posted by jibeho
It is all or nothing Obama. Go in deep or get out completely.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Originally posted by jibeho
It is all or nothing Obama. Go in deep or get out completely.
And that is the decision he has to make. That is the decision he's taking his time to make. He's collecting all the information from all the sources so he can make the RIGHT decision that will best handle the sticky situation that he took on when he took office.
Are you saying that he should continue with the "Mission accomplished" Bush and "Shoot first, check for people in your line of fire later" Cheney strategy of making rash, ill-thought-out, uneducated decisions?
What's your decision on this? Go in deep or get our completely? Are you ready to have the blood of the lives of all who die, based on your decision, on your hands? It's easy to sit here and type, "Come on, man, make the decision, already." It's cowardly. Because if the people who are saying that were forced to make the decision Obama's about to make, they'd become a shriveling mass of meat on the floor in a pile of their own excrement.
Obama has the guts to do something that George Bush was too cowardly to EVER do. He also lifted the 18-year ban on media coverage of the Dover arrivals so that we, the people, could witness it and be more in touch with the horrible price of war, something previous presidents would rather keep from us. And you have the nerve to insult the man for it? If you can't man up and give him credit for that without qualifying it with a bunch of smack talk about a photo op, then ... I don't know what else to say.
Originally posted by jibeho
First and foremost, Obama has been fully aware of the situation in Afghanistan since his first day in the White House. His strategy should have been in planning since day one.
It is time to pull the pin.
Originally posted by Chance321
reply to post by maybereal11
Every President should be this noble and sit with the familys of soldiers.
You mean like President Bush did many times?