Obama Honors Soldiers Killed in Afghanistan, page 1

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Topic started on 29-10-2009 @ 07:16 AM by poedxsoldiervet

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By no means am I fan of Obama at all. I do not like his policies I think he is way to Liberal for my taste, However I think what I saw in this picture maybe an testament to the Presidents character. What do you think? I know it may be staged, but I can’t remember George doing this for our boys, Or even Clinton during Somali.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:19 AM by genius/idoit

I find it Ironic he would use this "PHOTO OP"while his indecision on Afghanistan is likely strengthening the Taliban and costing more American lives.The tittle of his last book should have been......... I hope you like audacity

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:20 AM by poedxsoldiervet

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I know some may attack this, As it is staged but it still is just nice. Just something about it make me pause I cant quite put my fingers on it, maybe some of you other vets can tell me why?

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 07:21 AM by Zosynspiracy

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He's doing what any normal adult and moreover President would do. What do you expect him to be doing? He's a fraud. He's a faker. He's very good at putting on a facade. Don't forget that. He won over an entire nation with his smile and charm.

He does't give a crap about the soldiers as far as being human beings. If he did he would do one of two things either flood the entire area of Afghanistan with troops and win this f'ing war or pull the hell out. He's a goddamn puppet. There is nothing he can say or do that will EVER garner any respect from me that's for sure. He should be kicked out of the oval office, take his bitch wife with him and that goes for the rest of Congress and Capitol Hill as far as I'm concerned. It's time America does a little hosue cleaning. I don't know what's worse the fact that he's running this once great nation, land of the free and the brave or that stupid young men are willing to lay down their life for him and his government.

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 08:11 AM by Chance321

Awww, aint that nice of him. And yet he still can't make up his mind since August about sending more troops there.
I should add just so's their's no mistake, I have the higest respect for our troops, I just can't stand BO making a photo op out of this for the above reason.

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 08:27 AM by Benevolent Heretic

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I agree with you. I think this is a brave thing for him to do, whether there are pictures taken or not. I can't imagine being there, watching the remains come back, knowing that I sent them to their death. And letting the public see it and see me there on the tarmac... It's a big deal. I doubt any who criticize him would have the guts to do what he's doing.

The lifting of the 18-year ban on media coverage of bodies returning to Dover was done to keep the human cost of war from being shielded from the public.
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For all the talk of his potential troop increase -- maybe 40,000, maybe some other large figure -- Obama got a grim reminder of the number that counts: one.

I can only hope that watching these remains come back and taking his time to make the decision about sending more troops will result in a decision of "NO".

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 10:56 AM by dizzie56

I do like that he is doing this. I do believe that it is a photo-op but, I only hope that he is somewhat sincere about doing this. Whether or not it effects his decision doenst bother me, he just needs to s- or get off the pot imho. If he wants to stop the war in afganistan, that is his decision. Even tho I believe doing so will create a huge power vacuum, he must decide either way. Playin Commander in Chief half-a$$ed is not helping at all but hindering.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:03 AM by network dude

I have a good friend who had the task of being in command of the group who receives these fallen heroes back to our soil. It's called dignified transfers. He said it was the worst assignment he ever had. He hated seeing the true cost of war in his face every day. For all the rest of us, we see a few news articles and some numbers, but when you see the coffin, and realize each one has a soldier who gave his life for our country, it hits home. I couldn't imagine dealing with that every day. Lucky for him it was only a 1 year assignment.

I think it's great that Obama visited this place and saw a little of the real cost of war, but to have never served, he will never know the things a soldier goes through. Missing family, missing children growing up, scared to death that they might not make it around the next turn in the road. It almost disgusts me to see him salute. He is not worthy. Nor was any president who didn't serve. (IMHO)

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:10 AM by jam321

I have no problem with the salute or the photo op. I am sure many other Presidents would have done the same thing in his shoes.

However, I do have a problem with the way he is honoring them. If he truly wants to honor them, he needs to hurry up on his plans in Afghanistan and give the troops a fighting chance to take care of business.

He wouldn't have to worry about these kind of photo ops if he could just take care of business in Afghanistan so we can bring our troops home.

Nothing against Obama on this. I would recommend the same advice to any President.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:16 AM by Benevolent Heretic

You know, I never served either, but I know what it's like to face death. I know what it's like to miss my family so much I cry. The military doesn't hold a monopoly on life's pains. And if I was standing in front of a fallen soldier, the most respectful thing I could think to do would be to salute them in honor and respect of the sacrifice that they made.

I'm sure when Obama stood there, as you explained, and had it hit home, it was a humbling experience for him, too. I know you think he's not worthy to salute, but he didn't do it for HIM, he did it for them. To show them respect. You can put any kind of twist on that that you want, but to me, it seems like the right thing to do, whether one has served or not, especially the Commander in Chief.

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:19 AM by buddhasystem

Originally posted by jam321
However, I do have a problem with the way he is honoring them. If he truly wants to honor them, he needs to hurry up on his plans in Afghanistan and give the troops a fighting chance to take care of business.

Look, Afghanistan is not a solvable problem unless it's flooded with US troops for the next 20 years and we invest a trillion dollars to build an infrastructure in that country. If anybody is under illusion that posting another 50k troops for 5 years will do the job is delusional. They'll just wait us out. And we can't afford it.

We should get out of there asap and use drones to bomb the hell out of every suspected AQ connection, period.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:22 AM by jam321

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We should get out of there asap and use drones to bomb the hell out of every suspected AQ connection, period.

Problem with that is that the President has already said it is a necessary war.

Since he is already committed, he needs to ante up and figure out what the game plan is as soon as possible.

The longer he waits, the worst it gets IMO.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:29 AM by poedxsoldiervet

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To be honest as a War Vet of both wars Iraq and Afgan, I think its time to pack it up and come home, We are not serious about defeating Bin Laden and his croonies. If we were we would have dropped the full hammer on them by now... If we are going to stay WIN THE DAMN thing you know, Dump a hundred thousand US Soldiers from Iraq into Afgan, watch the Afganies # some bricks.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:29 AM by Benevolent Heretic

I agree with buddha. And jam, a war can be fought without troops. I think we should make a hasty exit and work with intelligence communities for a SMART war. I HATE what we are doing there and if I had Obama's ear, I'd BEG him to leave. We don't belong there. We didn't have any right going there. We should correct the problem, not get further involved.

I just hope he changed his mind. It could happen. Especially after watching dead soldiers return home.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:33 AM by buddhasystem

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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To be honest as a War Vet of both wars Iraq and Afgan, I think its time to pack it up and come home, We are not serious about defeating Bin Laden and his croonies. If we were we would have dropped the full hammer on them by now... If we are going to stay WIN THE DAMN thing you know, Dump a hundred thousand US Soldiers from Iraq into Afgan, watch the Afganies # some bricks.

With all due respect, Sir... The adversary will just melt into local population and use IED against the US. Don't you think? They can lay low for 5 years, wait for the US to leave and do same schtick over again.

I'm sure it'd be fun to watch a Talib sh!t a brick, but hardly worth the effort.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:34 AM by jam321

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]If we were we would have dropped the full hammer on them by now...

The truth of the matter is that people can't handle war. War is about punishing your enemy severely and making them think twice as hard before they ever mess with you again.

War is about showing no mercy. And now a days, it is virtually impossible to go to war without being dictated to show mercy.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:34 AM by Tomis_Nexis

I find it hilarious that people are drilling Obama as he pays respects to fallen soldiers.

I'm so glad he's in charge, I don't even like him, but at least we've moved on from the White control of corruption and scandal. (ie. Bush / Clinton getting sloppy head from Monica. These two douchebags too zero responsibility for their actions, true dipsh*ts that for some reason have the respect of their country)

Keep on rockin' Obama.

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:42 AM by jam321

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I think we should make a hasty exit and work with intelligence communities for a SMART war.

The same community we are investigating.

BH, I have nothing against what you say. As a matter of fact, I respect it. But if you really want the intelligence community to take care of this matter than you have to be willing to look the other way.

I have no problem with our troops coming home. I have said time and time again they should bring them home if there are no clear objectives. I see no clear objectives.

reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:30 PM by Benevolent Heretic