FDA to ban sale of raw oysters from Gulf of Mexico, page 1
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Topic started on 29-10-2009 @ 01:27 AM by beaverg

FDA to ban sale of raw oysters from Gulf of Mexico


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Federal officials plan to ban sales of raw oysters harvested from the Gulf of Mexico unless the shellfish are treated to destroy potentially deadly bacteria — a requirement that opponents say could deprive diners of a delicacy cherished for generations.

The plan has also raised concern among oystermen that they could be pushed out of business.

The Gulf region supplies about two-thirds of U.S. oysters, and some people in the $500 million industry argue that the...
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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 06:48 AM by Libertygal
reply to post by beaverg



Ah this is what I thought it was, Red Tide, and this is not news.

www.tpwd.state.tx.us...

Red Tide has been an issue for a good many years, and people used to simply avoid the oysters during Red Tide. If they are ignorant enough to farm and eat them, then IMO they get what they deserve, but then, it could simply be a lack of education about it.

If people quit eating them during Red Tide, then perhaps the fishermen would pay attention.

from the article:

Until the 1960s, raw oysters were rarely eaten in the summertime. (The old adage was never eat oysters in the months without an R in them.) But changes in harvest patterns and advances in refrigeration and post-harvest treatment have made the industry a year-round business. About three-fifths of the Gulf's oysters are harvested during the warm months.

The FDA is promoting a ban because high-risk groups are not heeding warnings about raw oysters, and millions of other people may not know they are vulnerable.


This is akin to eating blowfish. While it may indeed be a delicacy, every bite you take risks your life. Why would people do this? Educate yourself. Check out the link.

People not taking personal responsibility is why the government feels they need to hold our hands and tell us what to do and what to eat.

Cheers


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:36 AM by beaverg
reply to post by nixie_nox



I'm obviously going to have to. But I'm not sure why you're taking the completely unwarranted "snippy attitude" approach.

Those individuals were aware of the risk they were taking because raw oysters are treated like any other product with a warning label. In Destin a few years ago the warning signs seriously looked like I was about to get on a roller coaster ride.

Nobody should have to die from food? So would you support banning peanuts, almonds, pistachios, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc?

Also, those oystermen just lost over half their income in a pretty bad recession, heart wrenching to you I know.


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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:11 PM by beaverg
reply to post by getreadyalready



Don't be too impulsive, the ban is supposed to only last through the summer months, or what constitutes as 3/5th of their sales. So you shouldn't have any issues getting them until next year.

[edit on 29-10-2009 by beaverg]


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:14 PM by getreadyalready
Originally posted by beaverg
reply to
post by getreadyalready



Don't be too impulsive, the ban is supposed to only last through the summer months, or what constitutes as 3/5th of their sales. So you shouldn't have any issues getting them until next year.

[edit on 29-10-2009 by beaverg]


Well, we get temporary bans every so often (usually after the threat is gone, lol) for Bacteria, or Red Tide, etc. They used to say not to eat Oyster's in the summer months, but I don't really hear that anymore.

Many times we hear by word of mouth that the Oyster's are no good, we don't eat those we ship them up to the Yankees......

Anyhow, the part that upsets me is the "treatment"!

I would rather eat an icecold fresh Oyster off the dock, than one that has been shipped processed and shipped back again!


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:23 PM by nixie_nox
Originally posted by beaverg
reply to
post by nixie_nox



I'm obviously going to have to. But I'm not sure why you're taking the completely unwarranted "snippy attitude" approach.


Because people are belittling the fact that people die every year from this and act as if it is worth having the right to raw oysters all year round. That and the government is trying to control people from making companies clean oysters for three months out of the year. I know this is a conspriracy site and all,but lets use some common sense.

Those individuals were aware of the risk they were taking because raw oysters are treated like any other product with a warning label. In Destin a few years ago the warning signs seriously looked like I was about to get on a roller coaster ride.


First off, I commend you on actually reading the labels. More people should. But I have never actually seen an oyster come with a label. *smiles* hee, maybe they should be like fortune cookies.

and if you go to a bull and oyster event, or served in a restaurant or whatever, your not gonnna get a label. And then we have the age ol problem of people not reading the directions.

Nobody should have to die from food? So would you support banning peanuts, almonds, pistachios, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc?

Your referring to allergies. Most people who know they have allergies, and avoid those products. Most people eat oysters because they don't have a shellfish allergy. So they assume they are safe, but it has a little bacteria issue. It is the same reason the government doesn't let restaurants to leave meat out for three hours. It is a problem that CAn be avoided. And the regulation is removing an avoidable problem. An allergy reaction is not. And that is why most products, NOW have to be labled if they are processed with nuts. So yes, there are regulations to keep you from dying from THOSe foods.

those oystermen just lost over half their income in a pretty bad recession, heart wrenching to you I know.


Oyster fishing isn't being banned, you just have to do a specialized cleanign process.

I live in a coastal state. I always hear about the poor watermen. IN my state it is a constant battle over crabbing. Basically the native crab populations are beign decimated, but we should cause extinction because fo the poor watermen. But they are not going to have jobs if you completely destroy the crab population. Makes no sense. BTW, oysters are now protected here because...over fishing.

A lot of people have been hurt in teh recession. And yes, sometimes people lose livlihoods. My husband lost his after we just spent a fortune on education. But I am certainly not going to feel too bad if it means that you protect some people.


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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:42 PM by nixie_nox
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Originally posted by nixie_nox
Ask the families of those 15 people if they feel it is an unwarranted effort. Not only that, it is a long and painful death.

we are only talking bout 3 months out of the year. There are crabbing seasons, hunting seasons, and fishing seasons. All put in place for a reason. Now there is an oyster season.


No one should have to die from.....food.

Get over it.


15 people???? Long and painful????



Fever
Chills
Decreased blood pressure
Septic shock
Blistering skin lesions


Yea, those blistering skin lesions are just a field day! I hope I get some.
I hope i get septic shock for Christmas.

So your deciding that the number of people involved is indicative of whether it is a problem or not? I find it disturbing that you are ready to quickly dispose of 15 people to protect your personal indulgence.


Do you know anything about Oysters, or food allergies?
apparently you don't if you ond't know how this bacteria kills people. It is not just a little food poisoiing, it is a serious bacteria.

Way more people die from food allergies, bee stings, wheat, etc..! I have an employee that has to go to the doctor everytime somebody burns popcorn anywhere in the building!! Should we ban popcorn!!

Many offices ban popcorn anyways because it stinks up the office and ruins the microwave. And many ban perfume because people have allergies. I would say that is not very friendly work environment if you can't tell people to not make popcorn if it makes someone ill till they have to go to the doctor. If that story is even true.

This isn't a competition of what kills how many people. Like I said, a lot MORE people used to die of mundane things till regs were put into place to protect people.

Just because your partial to the food involved, doesn't make the situation any less important. YOur like a kid being told ice cream is bad for you and you can't eat it for dinner.

I eat Oysters almost daily! I know about 200,000 other people around here that do the same thing, and I have never heard of a single person getting sick!
ever meet anyone who has gotten sick from e coli? probably not. they may have though they had the stomache bug. People get sick and don't realize it was a stomache bug. Some food borne illnesses can take weeks to show up. You would never associate it with something you ate.
Personal experience doesn't negate the rule.

Now, I know a whole lot of people that have gotten sick after eating smoked chicken, or McD's, or frozen dinners.......


and your point is????

If you don't know anything about the subject at hand, there are plenty of other threads that might by your 2 cents worth!


Maybe you should go post on the Disney or Yahoo site if you can't be more mature about your posting.
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