Originally posted by Speights
reply to post by Dave157

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You're post is VERY vague... its kinda like saying that 10 people will die in the world in the next 7 days... you would do you're self more credit if you dropped the 2012 out of it... you basiclly just admitted that nothing major is going to happen on 2012 and that it is already happening, do your self a favour.. turn 18, find a girlfriend and just enjoy life because 2012 or not war could break out tomorrow and you spent all you're time fretting and scare mongering only to find out 2012 was a money making joke.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by OzWeatherman

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You get no arguments from me here.

You would think people would have learned a lesson or two from Y2K and how over blown things can get.

Clearly not.

Now I know this will upset some of you but Im open to have my beliefs challenged. It will be interesting to see what information believers can come up with

Originally posted by atlasastro
reply to post by OzWeatherman

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Where do you get off posting crap like this.
No Youtube.
Not one video of some guy saying that the world will end, with dramatic music and scenes from a disaster movies. Epic fail on this count.

No links to Sitchin or Ike, or crop circles and other people who don't know anything about ancient cultures but can still translate all the ancient writings better than anyone else. Once again OZ-epic fail.

You did not provide a link to the trailers for the movie 2012. They are making a movie- A MOVIE. MOVIE. Get it- it must be real if they are making a movie. Fail again OZ.

Where is the integrity I ask.
Here it is people. Take a good long hard look. This is how it is done. 2012 the end of it is here

Now I know this will upset some of you but Im open to have my beliefs challenged. It will be interesting to see what information believers can come up with

You need to read my post, its all there, the Youtube video's, the alternative experts who are better than the "real" experts because the alternative expertise is not specific to what the experts are actually experts on, and I question the experts. I think they are questionable!, except I don't question the alternative experts, they are not questionable because they are clearly experts on what I believe and I have the DVD's and Books to prove it. I also went to a conference about it and it was really expensive and there is no way it would be that expensive if it was not true.
And the clincher, dude, it is a Movie. 2012 the Movie. The PTB are telling us to prepare.
For your own sake OZ, and that of the world, prepare.

Originally posted by rainfall
But when you are referring to the 'vast majority of people that think the world will end,' you are referring to the unenlightened ones.

Sorry where exactly did I say that?

And as for your 'facts' on pole shifts taking thousands of years to complete, you really ought to do some research; Hence, the woolly mammoths that were found 'flash frozen' in the Arctic circle still having tropical butter cups in their stomachs...

Ah, I did do research...here's a few quotes and references so you may educate yourself

Based on his own research, Hapgood argued that each shift took approximately 5,000 years, followed by 20,000- to 30,000-year periods with no polar movements. Also, in his calculations, the area of movement never covered more than 40 degrees. Hapgood's examples of recent locations for the North Pole include Hudson Bay (60˚N, 73˚W) , the Atlantic Ocean between Iceland and Norway (72˚N, 10˚E) and Yukon (63˚N, 135˚W).

It has been assumed by paleomagnetists that geomagnetic pole reversals do not occur instantaneously from one polarity state to the other, but occur over a period that typically spans a few thousand years

Secondly, you said most scholars and scientists believe this is nothing more than a 'coincidence' that the mayan calendar just so happens to end on the galactic alignment.... again, more research....

On the winter solstice in 2012, the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years(Milky Way is one of billions of galaxies in the observable universe. The Galaxy has special significance to humanity as it is the home galaxy of the planet Earth). This special alignment means that the usual energy that typically streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will indeed be disrupted on 12/21/12 2012 at 11:11 p.m. Universal Time. Scientists are actually in great doubt about the fact that the Mayas even knew what they were talking about.

Astronomers generally agree that “it would be impossible the Maya themselves would have known that” says Susan Milbrath, a Maya archaeoastronomer and a curator at the Florida Museum of Natural History. What’s more, she says, “we have no record or knowledge that they would think the world would come to an end at that point.”

My advice: Stick to debunking chemtrails..

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