Study shows CHEMO and radiation cause cancer to SPREAD, page 1
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Topic started on 28-10-2009 @ 06:45 PM by rapunzel222
chemo radiation spread cancer link to article

Extract from article:

A study published in May 2007 in the journal of clinical investigation found that treating cancer with surgery, chemotherapy and radiation raised the levels of TGF beta and could actually cause tumours to spread.

TGF beta was crucial to whether cancer cells moved singly or in clumps.



so basically chemo/normal cancer treatments are spreading cancer by raising TGF beta levels. drug companies are looking at ways to block the TGF beta mechanism.

seems pretty clear to me, that this is why chemo doesnt work - because its actually working to spread the cancer via this mechanism. and they've known about it since 2007 but my doctor neglected to tell me that this dangerous treatment that could kill me, might actually spread the cancer too. i think most people arent warned about this risk prior to treatment either. maybe they would choose herbal medicine instead..


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:38 PM by Solomons
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What? having three people confirm that chemo therapy etc cured their cancer worries you? I'd take that and the millions of other people who have been cured from cancer over this article any day of the week.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by Solomons]



reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:47 PM by rapunzel222
Originally posted by Solomons
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post by rapunzel222



What? having three people confirm that chemo therapy etc cured their cancer worries you? I'd take that and the millions of other people who have been cured from cancer over this article any day of the week.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by Solomons]


yeah and what about the millions who have died after having chemotherapy and conventional treatment. and there have been MILLIONs and still continue to be, otherwise no one would be worried when they get cancer, if the cure is so great.

anyway im done with this rubbish and people like you trying to stir me. i have had cancer and am trying to help people. if youre not interested or a skeptic; why come on this thread.


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 10:09 AM by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by TreadUpon
There are way better cures for cancer than chemo...look into AHCC, what they use in Japan. Goji Juice is another alternative with huge benefits. Dont forget the really cheap option the drug companies cant make a dime on so they wont research...I think its called DCA.
I cant recall the exact number but a rediculous number of oncologists would NOT allow themselves or their families to undergo chemo...I'll try to find it.


There is a very interesting phenomeon at work here...one that I have observed before, and others have commented upon as well. Simply, that you have cancer survivors here offering first-person discussion of their cures through standard oncological therapies. Yet folks put more stock in what 'some guy on the net' has to say...no matter what that person's agenda (or what miracle cure they just happen to be selling).

The cost is that some folks will die through the use of alternative therapies because they didn't use standard methods when those could have provided the best hope of survival. That, to me, verges on criminal.

I have asked for quite some time that if any member of ATS has cured themselves...two important words here...CURED and THEMSELVES through the use of alternative therapies, please pipe up. For interest's sake. And be prepared to produce the paperwork as well, please.

Not yer mum, nor yer sis or yer dog...yerself.



reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 10:38 AM by redoubt
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Study shows CHEMO and radiation cause cancer to SPREAD


Just briefly, I've lost my mother-in-law and my brother to cancer over the last two years. In both cases, it was my layman's observation that with increased chemo and radiation therapy came a worsening of their conditions.

My brother's cancer physician, finally when cornered by his wife, mother and myself, admitted that the latest series of chemo had appeared to have been counterproductive.

He, my brother, passed away within two weeks of that conference.





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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 08:15 PM by rapunzel222
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i am so sorry to hear that.

I wish you and your family all the best.


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 08:15 PM by rapunzel222
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in my opinion doctors have a legal duty to inform patients of this TGF mechanism and the risks it carries before starting such a risky and potentially fatal treatment as chemo. i can see medical negligence claims in this. i can also see on in my doctor's failure to inform me of a study that showed docetaxel conferred no additional benefits re: survival time on patients treated with the other drugs i was given. and also that in lab tests the other drug i was given 5 flouricil was less effective at killing cancer cells than wakame seaweed.




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[edit on 3-11-2009 by rapunzel222]


reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 08:28 PM by rapunzel222
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by rapunzel222
yeah and what about the millions who have died after having chemotherapy and conventional treatment. and there have been MILLIONs and still continue to be, otherwise no one would be worried when they get cancer, if the cure is so great.


You are missing a fairly serous point: CANCER KILLS YOU!

re: 'You WILL die"...

well you are really an a....hole arent you? telling me im gonna die of cancer hey? refrain from posting any further on my thread and you can take this post as an official complaint about your conduct on this forum.

and regarding your assertion that cancer kills you, the whole point is, according to many people, no it doesnt.

many people assert that cancer can be CURED with correct diet, herbs and supplements. i have posted other threads about this. in addition there are numerous accounts that are not allowed to be publicised regarding successful treatments of brain tumours (a cure after 6 months) and breast cancer after using chinese medicine and diet. my chinese doctor has a patient who like me had cancer in both breasts which had gone into her lymph system. she took his advice refused a double mascetomy and normal treatment, and is still alive 8 years later.

fyi: if i DO die, itll probly be down to the effects of chemo which have screwed up my system and side effects can include heart failure years down the track. why that young girl on the news lately has to have a heart transplant after chemo in her youth.
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