What I am talking about is that if you believe in Jesus Christ, you won't be abducted. Have a good trip!
Having belief in the Christ does not protect you from sh*t. Period.
Bad things happen to good people. That's the way it is. God doesn't actively interfere with the world. Go study a little theology. LOL.
we could join together, unite our intentions and see all the leaders and elite in this world surrendering unconditionally
Originally posted by On the Edge
reply to post by Unity_99
I beg to differ! Not because I'm an expert in Theology,but because I am a Christian who has felt the power of prayer in extreme cases where it had to be more than mere coincidence!
I won't get off track here,but you should keep an open mind. Unless you have "been there",so to speak,you really have no idea how God works in the lives of His children!
Originally posted by rnaa
reply to post by ImplausibleDeniability
Presumably he won't answer because the answer would of course be 'none of the above'. His posts are always on about 'true Christians', and he does not consider Catholics or Protestants to be 'true Christians'.
I suspect, but the OT has not confirmed, so this is just speculation, that he is a follower of one of the Restorationist movements. (See diagram on Wikipedia).
The best known of these are the Mormons (Latter Day Saints and other derivatives) and the 7th Day Adventists.
As you can see from the diagram, Restorationists prefer to trace their lineage to before the institutionalized Roman church, so all other Christians are not 'real' in their view.
The OT likes to suck people into arguments like this. He can't lose because no one else in the discussion knows where he is coming from. They can argue that Catholics or Anglicans or Methodists, or whoever are 'true Christians' until they are blue in the face but it doesn't touch the OT's world view. They can argue all the history in the world, but it doesn't affect the OT's world view. Nobody is a true Christian except him and the members of whatever religious group to which he adheres.
(Sorry to talk about you in the third person OT, but since you only dodge answering the question, I thought I'd provide a speculation as to why that might be, for the benefit of their sanity).
[edit on 28/10/2009 by rnaa]
I won't get off track here,but you should keep an open mind. Unless you have "been there",so to speak,you really have no idea how God works in the lives of His children!
Protected by the Power of God Through Faith Now
Protected by the Power of God Through Faith Now
You may know that God is merciful. You may know that God has caused you to be born again. You may know that God raised Jesus from the dead. You may know that God promised to keep your inheritance imperishable in heaven. In other words, you know what God has done in the past to give you life, and you know what God is going to do in the future to give you your inheritance.
But what about now? What about the time between new birth and final salvation? What about the temptations, pressures, stresses, weariness, persecution, frustrations, suffering, confusion, perplexity, fears, and traps that we face now? Does God do anything about that? Does he send his Son to die for our sins, raise him from the dead to open eternal life, cause us to be born again, and then stand back to see if we will make it to heaven? Peter is not about to leave that question unanswered, or even implicit. He makes the answer explicit, clear, and powerful in verse 5.
Those who are born again "are protected [i.e., now are being protected] by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." There's Peter's answer:Text NO. God does not just stand back after he has caused us to be born again. He uses his divine power to protect us all through life for the salvation ready to be revealed.
What Peter wants us to see here is that God means for his people to be profoundly secure in him. He wants us to feel that God himself is doing everything that must be done to guarantee our final, eternal salvation.
Originally posted by gsuboy
reply to post by Unity_99
we could join together, unite our intentions and see all the leaders and elite in this world surrendering unconditionally
Yeah, if every single person knew what was "really" going on and all stood up against it, then yes they would surrender and step down.
What is all this "vibrating" and "meditation" stuff you are talking about? You never explain it, but you like to keep using those words.
I'm sure God can interfere if he wants to, but I don't think he does. I don't think that God "chooses" who to save from catastrophe and who he doesn't. That sounds awful and a God who died for all of his creation wouldn't pick and choose who to rescue. There's bad in the world and he doesn't like us being hurt, but it happens.
