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So if two guys get killled at the same time, on the same day, in different parts of the city, but one of these guys happens to be gay, does this mean only the perp that killed the gay guy will do time? I sure hope Obama is there to tell the family of the non gay dead man that perp number 2 is not doing time because their loved one was not gay.
Originally posted by Alxandro
So if two guys get killled at the same time, on the same day, in different parts of the city, but one of these guys happens to be gay, does this mean only the perp that killed the gay guy will do time?
I sure hope Obama is there to tell the family of the non gay dead man that perp number 2 is not doing time because their loved one was not gay.
SEC. 4710. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION...(4) FREE EXPRESSION- Nothing in this division shall be construed to allow prosecution based solely upon an individual's expression of racial, religious, political, or other beliefs or solely upon an individual's membership in a group advocating or espousing such beliefs.
(5) FIRST AMENDMENT- Nothing in this division, or an amendment made by this division, shall be construed to diminish any rights under the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States.
(6) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS- Nothing in this division shall be construed to prohibit any constitutionally protected speech, expressive conduct or activities (regardless of whether compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief), including the exercise of religion protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States and peaceful picketing or demonstration.
Originally posted by jdl79
The second what someone says can be considered a crime of any sort, you no longer have freedom of speech. It doesn't matter if the issue is whether or not it is hateful, as the constitution does not make that distinction, nor should any public official be allowed to do so. Once a official is allowed to make such a distinction, said official also is given the ability to decide what constitutes hate speech. This, my friends, is a slippery slope none in truth should want to go down.
Originally posted by Awolscout
Hate Crime is such a false term... I mean in effect all crimes especially those against another human being which are what are covered under hate crimes are crimes of hate just cause a white dude punches another white dude versus a white dude punches a black dude, both are hate crimes since both involve hate... I can't stand the bureaucracy involved in whoever makes this stuff up
Originally posted by AllInMyHead
reply to post by Awolscout
Well speaking as someone who grew up gay in the South I tell you that not all crimes are viewed the same by the police. I have had friends who had been beaten so bad they were in ICU for a week and the police wouldnt even lift a finger. They took a report and filed it in the "round" file, despite the fact they knew exactly who did it. THATS the reason we need hate crime legislation. I also lived in Memphis for 3 years and would see and hear about things like this all time. There were a few good cops there but most of them would laugh in your face if you told them that someone hit (beat, harrassed, etc) you. They could care less. Having hate crimes a acknowledged at the federal level is very important.
Originally posted by StopComplaining
The NAZI party was rabbidly gay before Hitler started killing them all. These liberal lax laws will eventually lead to the arbitrary percecution of any citizen, including homosexuals.
The homosexuals who are pro "Hate Crime Bill" make me sick.
Originally posted by ldyserenity
Good, Now how about extending that to whites?
Originally posted by jdl79
The second what someone says can be considered a crime of any sort, you no longer have freedom of speech.
Hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group, usually defined by racial group, religion, sexual orientation, disability, ethnicity, nationality, age, gender, gender identity, or political affiliation.
Other frequently reported bias motivations were anti-white, anti-Jewish, anti-gay, anti-Muslim, and anti-Hispanic.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Why would this legislation let murderers who kill straights get away with it? That makes no sense.
Originally posted by Libertygal
This reaches into peoples' heads, and makes it literally illegal to profess, if you are a Christian, that the Bible says one thing or another about gay people.
Promise # 290:
Push for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors