Oh no!!! shtf right now!!! Nuclear attacks on the USA are happening!!!... (this is just a drill), page 3
Pages: <<  1    2    3  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 6 times


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 02:15 PM by argentus
Sure, I'll play. First, since I'm probably outside working, I don't even hear about what's happened for several hours, and even then, most likely a frightened call from my buddy in central Florida.

We won't loose power for at least three weeks, as our power comes from a few giant diesel generators that run the whole island. Fuel storage is probably about three-4 weeks worth. Here at our house, we won't loose power at all, unless God forbid, the intial strikes escalate into a nuclear exchange that decreases the sun and foils our PV panels.

I'd get my darlin' home quickly, making sure she alerted everyone at work. I'd try to call various friends/family globally, and would probably be frustrated by the lack of signal or commandeered transmission lines.

I'd get out our Kerney fallout meter, masks, cannisters, wind pattern printouts and hand-crank sw radio. Would review supplies. No problem there -- there's enough for several prudent people to live indenfinately, particularly considering the profound coconut crop here. Water is not going to be a problem for a very long time, even with possible fallout.

If retaliatory strikes elsewhere might drift fallout here, we'd bug out to the cave. hardest part of that would be listening to the cats screech in their cat hotels. (we've done this drill before in the advance of a hurricane).

We'd pray and try to get information via the sw radio. Would possibly go to one of two ham operators on the island if no other info was forthcoming.

Our local network of like-minded folks would probably gather here, at least initially as we're centrally-located.

Water source is either one of two concrete cisterns, which are easily sealed and isolated from harvesting additional water. One is ALWAYS full, while we work off the other. In addition to that, there is a good well, which is also sealed, at least from above. Water is drawn into the house via a 12V pump with a demand switch, such that it pressurizes to 40psi and only comes on when the water is drawn. It runs off two cycled batteries, and is charged by PV cells.

I think there'd be a lot more praying. I'm sure there would be a panic here, and we'd have to think about how to start processing and producing food so those unprepared wouldn't tend to be instant enemies. This island is not so very far even today, from their pioneering roots. I don't think we even had power until the 60's.

The very worst thing besides the worry for loved ones and those in cities, would be the lack of credible information. I think of the TV series "Jericho". That series really ticked me off how it rambled and withheld information, but what did seem accurate to me was how people's behaviors changed in response to the unknown and lack of information. I think that was accurate.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 03:20 PM by argentus
reply to post by InTrueFiction



If in dire circumstances a starving man pointed a gun at me demanding that I'd give him my food I'd invite him for dinner.


Thank you. I'd likely do the same, particularly given that the person would be someone I know (only 1500 people here). I wouldn't necessarily leave myself vulnerable such that any old mook could get the drop on me, however your response infers to me that you've thought about this before. Good for you -- an honest answer without gratuitous saber rattling.


reply posted on 6-11-2009 @ 04:18 PM by InTrueFiction
Originally posted by argentus
reply to
post by InTrueFiction



If in dire circumstances a starving man pointed a gun at me demanding that I'd give him my food I'd invite him for dinner.


Thank you. I'd likely do the same, particularly given that the person would be someone I know (only 1500 people here). I wouldn't necessarily leave myself vulnerable such that any old mook could get the drop on me, however your response infers to me that you've thought about this before. Good for you -- an honest answer without gratuitous saber rattling.


I have thought about it before, yes.

We live in a world of uncertainties and many fears - it inevitably pulls us into an abstract vision of what we should protect. What has most value.

We're in a discussion about a situation where the SHTF. I believe that if the SHTF - or not - the one thing that needs to survive and must be protected is humanity. The stuff that makes us, that is the core of our existence, that we all stand for, that inspires in us the very notion of protection. Even in the worst scenario.

Survival. For me it is not about how many bags you packed or how much ammo you have but instead how many people you have around you. When the SHTF I like to think that instead of turning to their guns people turn to each other and stand together and survive. Share and look after each other.

And I am confident that if we're here today is because our ancestors - just like us - had the gift of kindness, good will and generosity. When things got tough they shared, held each other and stood together. As we ourselves would I am certain and hopeful if the S did hit the F.

I know that in Doomsday's scenario that makes me the most annoying member of any survival party I know... and am pretty sure that between the starving raider's gun and the survivalist's shotgun someone would shoot me.

But in the end whether the S does hit the F, or if it misses the F just slightly and hits the toaster instead, or even if the S doesn't get to fly at all... I will die. We all will. It upsets me really. The only thing that makes it less painful is the thought that in the end, regardless of what happens, I get to have "He meant well. R.I.P." written on my grave. That's a legacy I can live... well... a legacy I can die with. Regardless of the fan's cleanliness.

Cheers.
Pages: <<  1    2    3  >>    ^^TOP^^



What Plants Vs. Zombies Game Taught Me....
  Posted 6 days ago with 58 member flags
Do you have a supply of ramen noodles in your prep stores?
  Posted 15 days ago with 48 member flags
For the love of God, Buy yourself a can opener!!! NOW
  Posted 11 days ago with 24 member flags
Pennies & Nickels
  Posted 15 days ago with 17 member flags
Who Here Is CPR Certified?
  Posted 6 days ago with 11 member flags
So I get a text from FEMA today...
  Posted 3 days ago with 9 member flags