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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:19 AM by infinite
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I've read the treaty, and yes, it is similar to a European Union treaty - significant hidden information about a new bureaucracy that will monitor
the progress.
It goes on to highlight a implementation, and creation, of a single low-carbon global economy. Other draconian measures on the third world, in the
technology transfer program, and the United Nations will meditate it.
The wealth transfer (apart of historical carbon debt measures) comes with penalties and rules on the those receiving the financial support.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:23 AM by NovusOrdoMundi
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May you please post a link for everyone to the treaty? I have only been able to find bits and pieces so far. Then again, I'm not very good with
Google.
Thanks
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:33 AM by foxhoundone
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The secret cabal? the royals?Aliens?
There has to be someone at the helm steering this planet, I suppose in all honesty i do not really know That would be a thread all on its own..
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:36 AM by Seiko
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:37 AM by ontariocanada
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yeah...one world gov't my a$$.
it would be One Country + Canada, cause there's no way Canada is going in on this!
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:44 AM by JJay55
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Originally posted by foxhoundone
reply to post by JJay55
The secret cabal? the royals?Aliens?
There has to be someone at the helm steering this planet, I suppose in all honesty i do not really know That would be a thread all on its own..
But you can't name them... right?
You have some very strong opinions about them but it's some vague higher power... hmmmm. That's interesting. just sayin.
There are specific players and they aren't hard to track down with research. Forbes makes a list of worlds richest people every year, but those
aren't the big fish. But it's not about wealth, there are other factors to consider like military strength, territory and population.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:46 AM by foxhoundone
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Say what you like matey but when you think about it its not that far off,
Take language for an example English is established as the planets first language, Another example money, All world trade is done in dollar euro or
yen, The classic ISS "international" space station.. is that not a one world type project ???..
 
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:51 AM by foxhoundone
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Your quite correct JJ,
As you state its not money oriented i think it has something to do with leading the human race to a higher plain so to speak, Your quite right i will
have to study this thoroughly... Thank you
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:54 AM by infinite
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UN-FCCC-Copenhagen 2009
[P = paragraphs]
P.24 - stop unilateral measures from nations states in terms of countervailing goods and services. Overules national law
"Conference of the Parties", governed by the Convention will set short term targets and monitoring their success.
P.36- 37 New institution that will provide legal framework. Provide technological and financial support to developing nations.
P.38 The word "government" appears along with "executive body" in relation to the new institution in p36-37
P.50 Institutional arrangements are explained under the self titled section.
P.55 efficient system of governance
P.57 Bureaucracy are named and explained. Refereed to as "branches"
A few examples. The word "nation state" is replaced by "parties"
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:56 AM by The Savage Khan
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Someone mentioned the idea of world government not being a bad idea. I agree, a (excuse the nerd reference) Star Trek TNG scenario, where all humans
across the globe or simply Earthlings is a preferable goal.
BUT
Who will be in charge? US lead globalization is real and happening. There is enough evidence to prove our government has been hijacked by bankers and
big corporations, so if we use this country as the example, what are we in store for on a global scale? A world of undereducated consumers?
To stay on topic, I saw the Youtube video that showed the speech in question. I cannot confirm that the man speaking was indeed Lord Christopher
Monckton, adviser to Thatcher, but I can say the source is correct as to what he warned of. If it is indeed him, I too wonder what his real agenda is.
Given his Thatcher associations, I doubt he has the little people's needs in mind.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:58 AM by Curious and Concerned
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Whether the OP source is accurate or not, the fact remains that climate change will be used as a tool for politics. And it appears the United Nations
are poised to escalate their role to that of a world government.
We strongly believe that the United Nations must become the principal custodian of our global human security…A major restructuring of the
world’s income distribution, production and consumption patterns may therefore be a necessary precondition.
These are the words of the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) from their "Human
Development Report" from 1994.
This was also from the same report.
“Global taxation may become necessary in any case to achieve the goals of global human security. Some of the promising new sources include
tradeable permits for global pollution, a global tax on non-renewable energy, demilitarization funds and a small transaction tax,”
Note that this was in 1994, before most of the "global warming" hype. But the important thing is, this was NOT to reduce the effects of
climate change. The UN wanted a tax on global pollution(carbon tax) for the purpose of funding the United Nations, NOT to discourage
pollution!
Now the UN's own IPCC is the main voice that governments around the world are listening to when looking at climate change, and consequently, setting
carbon taxes or 'emmission trading schemes'. Conflict of interests, maybe?
For more info see this thread:
NWO to be funded by Climate Change!
Note. When the thread refers to NWO, it is not a conspiracy term, but the term used in the reports from the UN and an organization with close ties to
the UN called "Socialist International".
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:02 PM by HappilyEverAfter
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:03 PM by wonderworld
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Yes it's coming but we must watch for any new treaties created from the Group of 20 Leaders,,-G-20. These ones will be irreversible and have a lot
more clout than simply economics.
I am opposed to a "One World Government" based on many reasons, including my religious beliefs. There is no way to stop it. A NWO is being created
as we speak. Only a few loose ends to fix.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:04 PM by Unity_99
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Hey I'm all for a world government, but my terms for one are completely different. Freedom, abolishing all money and corporate giants, and banks,
all leaders step down, disclosure, we are taught advanced systems and medicine from the Federation and Andross Delegations, and we advance. We adopt
a moneyless system of high education, constant retraining and volunteering, that is much smaller hours, say 4 a day, 5 times a week for healthy
people, and non-child tenders. And we our health is improved, with extremely good nutrition. All poisons and nuclear gone forever, and advanced
energies found. Absolutely no bloodlines, for they are in a galactic time out. Incredible health and dental and education for all and eco homes for
all. Nearly all bodies of law abolished. Psi development eveywhere so we begin to ascend, and develop the Universal Understanding and feel each
others thoughts, and truly care. No one goes without, no one, no man, woman or child in any country is controlled by religion or government, or the
other sex in any way shape or form, and the world becomes cosmic, with local governments still running things, by the people, for the people, in
complete unity and understanding of both individual freedoms and sharing and equality.
Otherwise its not happening. NWO will never get off the ground overtly.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:15 PM by Unity_99
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Dont make anything into statements, or affirmations, for we create metaphsyically with our minds, and affirmations, statements, absolutes is one of
our of our creational skills. Instead, this is the way to go:
"I am free from the matrix, the people are free, awake, aware and happy, they are healed, and filled with joy, peace and unity. Disclosure is now, we
are being taught by our cosmic friends and family. A new utopia is beginning for humanity and earth. We are healing mother earth and nature and she is
being restored gently with humanity safe and powerfully protected. Divine Mother's Plan has been achieved, and the earth and its people ascend and
evolve."
Envision a powerfully different even taking place, disclosure, and not Vrill. The skies filled with Freedom, and Freedom's representatives, and
advancement. People relieved and happy as all is explained, and that the earth changes are being mitigated. The advancement into a unifed, yet free
future, with people healed and educated and earth restored and healed as well. See, affirm, state it, and stand up and say NO to anything else, like
Max Igan talks about, non-compliance, and in their faces. This other thing, isn't ever going to make it to the light of day.
But, cosmically, done in proper way to ensure world peace and human rights, the United Earth Council, would be needed, to join the cosmos, that is the
protocol. If its nwo, and if its set up looking like money, bankers, bloodlines, corporations or controlling Sharia law type regligions everywhere,
guess what, someone is lying, for these arent the good guys.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:27 PM by budski
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Originally posted by beta.services
reply to post by foxhoundone
There are many benefits that people seem to miss about a single government.
One main one: If there were global standards on working conditions (such as a global minimum wage) there would no longer be any great incentive to
outsource/offshore work to countries with cheap labour rates.
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Unless of course, the same standards prevalent in the 3rd/developing world are forced on the west, whilst welfare states are abolished so it becomes a
case of work or die.
Any benefit can pretty much be turned and seen as a negative.
This only becomes beneficial if we are "ruled" by beneficient people - that's not usually the case...
Infinite
Many thanks for posting the draft treaty - appreciated.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:28 PM by Larryman
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One world government... 1970 "Colossus: The Forbin Project".
"This is the voice of world control." - cool!
I vote for it. But only if Colossus is in charge.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:28 PM by mrmonsoon
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Only redistribute wealth around the globe, eh?
And who gets to choose who gets and who loses money???
Another take money from those who work and earn it so it can be given to those who do not????
I must admit, a global minimum wage would help the West and really hurt Asia.
Manufacturing moved their for cheap labor, if that was no longer the case, it would be worth it to build what you consume locally-removes over sea
shipping.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:30 PM by budski
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
reply to post by budski
Only redistribute wealth around the globe, eh?
And who gets to choose who gets and who loses money???
Another take money from those who work and earn it so it can be given to those who do not????
But why is an hour of your time more valuable from an hour of someone else's time who just happens to be on the other side of the globe.
Most of the wealth in the west came from quite literally raping the 3rd world, so your argument is more than a little moot.
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:31 PM by weedwhacker
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Sorry? Why bring "religion" into it??
Wait....allow us to guess.
Christian.
One of the newer large "religions" that prevail (and currently continue to hamper) in Humanity as it strives to achieve balance.
A true "One World" body of governance will include ALL, regardless of creed.
Even the somewhat disparate beliefs....whether they be of a Giant Tortoise that supports the Universe on its back, or the Judeo/Christion/Islamic
traditions that are much more recent --- and yes, those three are ALL the same --- the point of a truly advanced society is being able to accept and
incorporate those differences, in a civilized manner. WITHOUT subjecting those who have a different "belief" from yours to unnecessary
subjugation.
To follow on the rather 'corny' (yet relevant) notion of the "Star Trek" ideal Universe model....it is the acceptance and polite acknowledgement
of diversity that will (hopefully) define a more advanced culture in the future....
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