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Coming in December: World government


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Topic started on 28-10-2009 @ 10:08 AM by budski


Coming in December: World government


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Lord Christopher Monckton created a tidal wave across the Internet with excerpts from his Oct. 14 presentation to the Minnesota Free Market Institute. He, too, has read the negotiating text and says without hesitation that this treaty will create a world government. He goes further, much further, to explain that while this treaty will have no impact on global climate, it will have a great impact on the global economy.

The purpose of the treaty is, and has been since the very beginning of negotiations in the early 1990s, to transfer the wealth from developed nations to the developing nations
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:08 AM by budski


According to the source, this treaty is intended only to redistribute wealth around the globe.

Be that as it may, or may not be, the first step towards any world government WILL be control of currency, and the integration of world markets into one common free market.

In order for this to happen disparities between the wealth of countries must first be addressed, with the poorer countries being brought into line with the wealthier ones.

It may be said that the Euro was the experimental model for this, where countries had to fall within certain exchange parameters in order to join.

It will be very interesting to read the full text when it becomes available and see just how this affects monetary policy in developed and undeveloped nations.

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:14 AM by Loke.


Source: World Net Daily

No more to say than, its an unreliable source.

Best regards

Loke.:.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:17 AM by budski


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But it still presents a premise which makes for interesting discussion, no?

I've also seen you post on stories sourced from mainstream outlets - is it your contention that those sites ARE reliable?

By dismissing out of hand because you do not like the source, you are hardly "denying" ignorance - more embracing it...



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:21 AM by weedwhacker


Ummm...no disrespect intended, but Lord Monckton seems to be everywhere, lately...at least, based on numerous threads here on ATS.

He talks about "hidden" alien techonolgy in one thread, the coming economic collapse in another, and now this....Jack of all trades, is he?

Would like to know his agenda in all of this...



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:23 AM by Doc Tesla


Originally posted by budski
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But it still presents a premise which makes for interesting discussion, no?





discussing an unreliable source is a waste of time. its all gonna be the same he said, she said stuff and nothing will be solved.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:27 AM by beta.services


I have always wondered why TPTB haven't escalated the developing world to a higher standard of living.

I have often read that it was in their best interest to keep the poor as poor as possible. And that never sat well with me.

I mean, what is better for those on top. 4 Billion people crying for aid, or 6 Billion people with disposable income?



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:31 AM by NovusOrdoMundi


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Have you bothered to research the treaty or are you just looking for a simple, poorly attempted 'debunking' of the article at hand?

If the source is so bad look for the information on other sources. Dismissing it off hand only leaves you ignorant.

The climate scare has long been slated as the 'end game' for the banking elite; it is their tool for bringing about a one world government. By uniting the people of all nations to a cause they cannot possibly disagree with, they can more easily herd us in to accepting what ever solution they offer.

There is a lot of money and a lot of power in "saving the planet". The illusion of global warming is more dangerous to the prospect of a free and peaceful planet than war could ever be.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:35 AM by foxhoundone


The PTB seem to want a united world, Which is fine by me as long as we keep our own cultural identities, Perhaps they know disclosure is coming and there's not alot they can do about it with the world so divided, So easy at this time to roll in and conquer the planet,



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:40 AM by Seiko


Here's a link to a simple google news search.

World government

Pick a news source you find reliable.

It is odd how the best way to screw with freedom is by offering to make all people equal. Harrison bergeron comes to mind.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:51 AM by beta.services


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I agree.

There are many benefits that people seem to miss about a single government.

One main one: If there were global standards on working conditions (such as a global minimum wage) there would no longer be any great incentive to outsource/offshore work to countries with cheap labour rates.

Another: And I know most people would object to this one... If there were a single peacekeeping force to replace all national armies, then we could say goodbye to nuclear weapons for good.

Military budgets could eventually be scaled back and diverted to science and exploration.

Sending wealth to developing nations is definitely a step in the right direction.

And I don't see why any Americans would care. They're broke anyway. Given enough time they might be able to claim developing world status

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 10:54 AM by pieman


Originally posted by budski
Be that as it may, or may not be, the first step towards any world government WILL be control of currency, and the integration of world markets into one common free market.


i would have expected the IMF and the WTO to be this attempt at the control of currency and the world economy. a carbon emissions treaty seems a blunt axe when you have those two institutions at your disposal.

reading the linked article, it sounds like an attempt to mix sovereignty issues up with the climate debate. i liked this line, it's a real soap box rabble rouser.

Go figure. Or better yet, go wade through the negotiating text, but only if you have a strong stomach. It will make a non-Marxist throw-up.


he doesn't explain how fines will be levied or how wealth will be transfered but he does make sure to include a negative association and link it to extreme socialism. class act.

if it was on ATS, i'ld expect to see it moved to skunk works fairly quickly.

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:00 AM by RestingInPieces


It's simply mind-boggling how you people CONTINUALLY get up in arms over thees types of... fabrications.

It must be an odd life to think the end is just around the next corner, and then the next, and then the next.

Besides, we all know that the world government is going to be instituted forcefully on February 12th, 2010.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:00 AM by Snarf


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But it still presents a premise which makes for interesting discussion, no?


by knowing that this story comes from a completely and utterly unreliable source, your comment is the same thing as saying:

"Lets discuss the possibilities of a flying unicorn like spaghetti monster, because i saw it in a comic book once"

Government conspiracy predictions *NEVER* come true.

Government conspiracies exist because someone is able to set around their living room and piece together events that happened years apart from each other, and in a fashion reminiscent of the movie "The Number 23" with Jim Carrey, everything starts to "make sense" - even when there was no sense to be made.

And no, im not drinking the "kool-aid" - im thinking for myself and not letting a few tin-hatters tell me what to think.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:02 AM by weedwhacker


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Also....doesn't a ONE world government make sense at some point in time, in the future??

This is going to be a cross-over into the "Aliens and UFO" Forum, so sorry...but it has to be addressed at some point.

One day, whether it has happened already or not, a PLANET will have to incorporate itself into a larger community of other planets.

AND...we can even take out the "alien" aspect, if you wish...because, if you extrapolate far enough into the future, mankind WILL eventually begin to colonize off-earth, within our Solar System (at first).

The parochial notions of arbitrary nation-state boundaries will become obsolete.

What people seem to fear, here, is the loss of identitiy from a cultural standpoint...but, really...WHO nowadays has an original culture, anyway?



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:02 AM by wylekat



his treaty is intended only to redistribute wealth around the globe.



Translation: Take $$ from the middle and lower classes, and make everyone equally poor, while the elite keep every red cent they have stolen.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:04 AM by NovusOrdoMundi


Originally posted by Snarf
Government conspiracy predictions *NEVER* come true.


Your credibility was shattered and reduced to nothing with this one sentence.

Come back and try again when you have evidence to back up your claims.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:04 AM by foxhoundone


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Better still have all the world money put to space exploration and colonising other planets, Just think a whole world project, But thinking of TPTB they would not want that keeping all the wealth and power for themselves




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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:11 AM by Snarf


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it'd actually be more logical if you could give me a single example of a major government conspiracy *PREDICTION* ever coming true. Please U2U it to me, as to not further derail this topic.

My credibility with you may be shattered...but i doubt i'll be losing any sleep over that.

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 11:14 AM by JJay55


Originally posted by foxhoundone
The PTB seem to want a united world, Which is fine by me as long as we keep our own cultural identities, Perhaps they know disclosure is coming and there's not alot they can do about it with the world so divided, So easy at this time to roll in and conquer the planet,

Name TPTB which you are talking about.



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