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Originally posted by quackers
I think there is a minority in every single element of society. Millions and millions of people all watch the same tv programs, listen to the same music, play the same video games, so on and so forth. For millions and millions of normal people, the thought of gang raping a teenager is simply not a normal thought process, despite your scapegoating onto the media.
That said we are a consumerist debt driven society where either no parent is working or both parents are working. Neither of which is perhaps the optimum for raising children. This is not the fault of parents, as they too are a product of this manipulation.
Are things getting worse, or is it simply that now it is more likely you hear about something? Is there more crime or are more people reporting crime? Are the "brainwashed masses" any more or less "brainwashed" than they were 30 years ago? I don't think so. You think TV is to blame? Fine cart it off to the local dump, somehow I doubt it will be the panacea you hoped.
Originally posted by quackers
Parenting is not the root, it is a symptom of a far larger problem with society. So long as people keep focusing on the symptoms, they will never cure the disease. The disease is socio-economic manipulation by governments full of elected conflict of interest, funded by crooked bankers, who employ leftist think tanks to decide the best way of manipulating the people machine so it is most productive.
Instead of saying "unemployed parents are bad and they raise bad kids", find out why they are unemplyed and why their values are trash, I'm sure many would jump at the chance to escape the revolving door of poverty and apathy.
Instead of saying "latchkey kids have parents who care more about their work than their kids", find out why it is that both parents need to work. What is it about their finances means 80 hour work weeks and and why can that not be achieved with 1 parent working?
Instead of blaming parents, find out why it is that parents have no time for their children, I'm sure many would rather work less and spend more time at home, or just have a job, and some pride in themselves, their family, and the community around them.
Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by lpowell0627
It is absolutely without question the parents responsibilty, duty, and most important meaning in life.
It requires paying attention, not smothering, not controlling every thought and action, but paying attention and getting involved, every single day and night of that childs growing and formable years.
Do not expect perfection, you can not deliver it, so dont expect it.
The child is a mirror and a sponge, you will see and hear yourself, or the absence of.
There is no manual to refer to, but common sense, is pretty good.
I raised 4 imperfect unique daughters,
under common shared rules and curfews, chores required, language required, behavior required.
And they would consistantly fall short of the mark, but they were held accountable, and they learned responsibility and also forgiveness.
They learned the difference between excuses and reasons.
They learned how to grow up but not grow away.
They learned yes and they learned no!
And they drove me to the edge of madness.
They hated me, complained to me, avoided me, lied to me.
They hugged me, thanked me, came to me and confided in me.
They wore me down to the bone, had me ready to disappear into a fog.
But there I was every day....
I lost my Mom when I was very little, my Dad was always away.
My Grandmother was my most remembered parent,
old ways, family ways.
Schools wont raise your kids, social programs and services wont raise them, the police wont raise them.
The dirty hands rolled up sleeves involved expecting parent as a norm is one tough task.
And its worth every minute.
FAMILY all the way.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
It's easy to say that turning off the T.V. will cure this, but you're wrong.
My mom always -hated- to sit at the table. She wanted to watch T.V. while she was eating. Dinner time, of course, was to eat.
Conversation takes place whenever else.
I had plenty of conversations with my mom and my dad, which seems odd now looking back because I always thought they were so busy. They were both very busy actually.
My point is, the OP has hit the nail on the head. All sorts of things add to the problem, but the root is parenting. PARENTING is not defined as turning off the T.V. Parenting is defined as, in my opinion, actively molding your child.
If you do not mold your child, then either they will continue to be a lump of clay, or someone else will do the molding. When a lump of clay that hasn't been properly molded before the clay gets too dry is modified later on, it will change form a little, but in the end it just breaks apart. The clay then needs to be reprepped.
I could go on forever on this topic, actually. OP, just know that I am with you 100%. I am 25 years old and I used to think my peers were out of control. I have worked retail for years and I'm telling you...today's kids are incredibly stupid, selfish, and markedly mouthy. If anyone has ever seen