Neanderthals ‘had sex’ with modern man, page 2
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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 06:30 AM by ZenOnKwalsky
reply to post by andy1033

the normal ones will decide wit whom: woman or a man ...
maybe finally they will choose a pony...



reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 06:30 AM by Wallachian
reply to post by rnaa



The cause of hybrids being sterile is that the two parents have a different chromosome number. Now, if Neanderthals had the same chromosome number as us, in theory, they might have produced fertile offspring.

As for the question how compatible Neanderthals and our species were... I'd say pretty compatible. Not everybody agrees if they were a different species than us, but if they were a different species than us, they were still human. Just a different species of human.

Which i find quite cool, i wish they were still around


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:06 AM by Blackmarketeer
First off, Neanderthals were not modern humans with rickets, nor any pathological form of homo sapiens. They were considerably larger than modern man. Now maybe a Neanderthal with rickets could have been confused for a modern human fossil, I'm sure they suffered all the same maladies we do.

Not everybody agrees if they were a different species than us, but if they were a different species than us, they were still human. Just a different species of human.

Which i find quite cool, i wish they were still around


That is what I find so fascinating - we've become so convinced we are the only intelligent species on the planet, what would it be like having several neighboring intelligent species, with their own languages, cultures, art, etc. Most people don't stop to think about the fact we didn't evolve from the Neanderthal, they were a different branch of evolution for homo. Neanderthals may have only spread throughout Europe, but were pockets of Neanderthals isolated enough to develop different races (as we find with modern man)? Did they interbreed with Cro-Magnon, rather than with modern man? Did pockets of these hybrids survive in isolation as short-lived species before they, like all the other species of homo (excluding us), went extinct?

There's so many competing theories out there, and no one can agree on anything. Hopefully mapping the genomes of Neanderthals and Cro Magnon will shed some light on the subject. I'm still reminded of the biblical passage (inherited from earlier Sumerian writings) of the "sons of god and the daughters of men". If the "sons of god", thought of as being the Sethite line by biblical scholars, were in some way a remnant line from such a merging between Neanderthal or Cro Magnon, or any hybrid species produced by such unions led to a race of men that were distinguished from modern man. Supposedly the intermarriage of the sons of god (the Sethite line) with the daughters of men (a Cainite race) led to the race of "violent men" regarded as the Nephilim, did King Og or Goliath belong to such a race that (using portions of the bible as a anecdotal record of history) was of greater stature than modern homo sapien? Perhaps they were the descendants of one of these unknown hybrid races that managed to last longer than we imagined (I know the above comment is way off topic and a bit "fringey", my apologies!)


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:47 AM by ..5..
I call BS on the report.


Originally posted by WalterRatlos

Yes, but the offspring of the donkey and the horse is the mule and is sterile and cannot be bred further. And horses and zebras are not that different, aren't they? I'm not sure about their offspring: are they sterile like the mules?


For the record not all mules are sterile.
www.denverpost.com...
Too bad the sire wasn't a quarter horse stallion then the foal could be registered as a 3/4 horse with the AQHS. And yes that foal would probably be fertile.

Zorses so far have been sterile. They yelp rather than bray.
However they are also small, slow, impossible to saddle fit off the rack, dirty stoppers, untrustworthy, you pet them on the neck without warning and they will try to bite your arm off, and plain old mean.
They are half wild for goodness sakes besides the color they don't have a whole lot of good things about them and it is not their fault.

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:16 PM by ldyserenity
reply to post by Silcone Synapse



I must say to that WTF happened to him??? WOW!!!

On this whole interbreeding thing, I don't know, I still contemplate how Darwin is possibly correct even the slightest bit as these seemingly seperate species of homo actually existed at the very same time in the history of man????
Just makes no sense to me...Maybe I am missing something?


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 12:37 PM by Wallachian
reply to post by ldyserenity



Hm, that's like saying you don't believe in evolution cause 5 or so different species of bears exist at the same time. I don't get it, how does fact that two different species of humans existed at the same time contradict the theory of evolution? In fact, that's what evolution is all about, related species tracing back to common ancestors.

Besides, Neanderthals evolved in Europe, modern humans in Africa. They weren't even competitors until "we" migrated to Europe.


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 10:47 AM by honkusbobo
reply to post by DaMod



It might have been Homo Erectus, which is even more primitive than Neanderthal.

archaeology.about.com...


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 12:38 PM by gaiscíoch
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by rnaa
reply to
post by Blackmarketeer



Highly doubtful. Two different species.

There would be no offspring from such a union.

Some modern humans have sex with sheep, but that is not the source of the modern phenomena of "sheeple".



It's possible to breed humans with chimpanzees. Not a nice thought , but possible


Uhhh, sources for that claim please?
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