So Do we Listen to the Mayan Elders or Hollywood re: 2012?, page 1
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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 12:04 PM by mblahnikluver
reply to post by lel1111



I'd rather listen to the Mayan Elders than Hollywood for sure. Hollywood loves to over exaggerate to make money and that is it. Look at any movie that is based on a true story, they make it more interesting by adding their own spin...Ex Amityville Horror, it didnt happen that way at all, major over exaggeration going on there....I will see the movie because I too like diaster movies It will be a good way to freak myself out for a night too...but I highly doubt it will influence my thinking on 2012.


reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 12:54 PM by Danna
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I am going to see this movie in the theaters. When I saw the trailer when I was going to watch final destination I almost crapped myself xD The special effects are really nice



reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 11:04 PM by Bored To Tears
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
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post by lel1111


Ex Amityville Horror, it didnt happen that way at all, major over exaggeration going on there


If you are talking about the original movie then it was a pretty accurate telling of the book.

If you are referring to the horrible remake with Ryan Reynolds then you are correct. George Lutz even sued the makers of the film before he died.

On Topic.

Its Hollywood.

It wouldn't be much of a movie if they didn't embellish 2012 to be something completely fiction. Besides if they didn't embellish it then it would look like a History channle documentary and who would shell out 12 bucks for that?

Remember movies are for entertainment purposes only.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:42 AM by FiatLux
First off, Hollywood does not even understand what 2012 is all about. It is about spiritual change and growth, not about Earth disasters. It is about the change in human DNA, a reprogramming so to speak. A reprogramming that we are at this very time going through.

Will there be Earth changes? Yes, as the Earth itself is a living being, it to will grow and change. By the time the Earth changes do climax, much of the human race will have moved on to a higher plane, but not all humans will. Dec, 21 2012 is the shift point for the human race. It is at that point when humanity will move from this plane to the next. Those who will/do not shift to the next plane, are the ones who will be here to see the Earth shift.

What and why is there a shift coming for humanity? We as a race have went through these changes many times since the beginning. As an example, look at Neanderthal man. To this day, it has eluded man kind as to why they died off. Well, they didn`t just die off, they themselves went through a DNA shift, just as the Earth did, and just as we will at this time.

The major Earth changes will occur after the 2012 date, much closer to 2015 and after. The Earth itself, just as humanity, will move to a higher plane of being.

This is what Hollywood is over looking. And yes, the powers that be do run Hollywood. It is they who contribute to the spiritual stagnation that we are going through at this time. Their love of money growth over the spiritual growth, is what keeps the human race at a standstill. We have been manipulated as a race into placing all of our thoughts into growing not only our bank accounts, but mainly the bank accounts of the powers that be. It`s a spend spend spend world that they have created and they want. and this my friends takes away from our spiritual growth. Well, I hate to break it to them, but, it`s over for them. We WILL grow, whether they like it or not. They can not, and will not change that. They have tipped the balance to the negative side, and this will be corrected with the coming shift in awarness.



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 07:57 PM by AlienChaser
reply to post by antithesis.



Celtic druids in ancient Europe used 'magic' wands to conduct or orchestrate order. Druids were the lawyers, priests etc. These wands always used wood from holly trees. Hollywood.


Interesting.. I always learn something new here

I personally will not go to see this movie as I do not wish to pollute global consciousness with negative emotions focused on a specific date in history.


Don't let this be a reason not to see the movie. We are all (especially ATSers) already exposed to countless theories, from the complete destruction of earth and end of humanity, to transformation or assention of humanity to a new and higher form of existence.

I was excited for this movie when I saw the first trailer a year ago in the theater, then recently I saw the John Cusack trailer and I got a totally new feeling of "ahhh craaap". Checking around the reviews and synopsis' haven't done anything to brighten my spirits as this movie looks to be little more than standard hollywood fare that is very loosley based on current popular culture, and I feel will more likely be presented as such an outragous take on appocalypse that the true purpose is in fact disinformation as you suggest, but I believe also that it will serve to discredit 2012 investigators as wackos and crackpots, such is the norm for a great many hollywood vehicles that many millions will absorb without understanding the manipulation that is happening.

If we are ever to assend to a higher vibration/awarness/consiousness, etc.. wether naturally or due to the events of 2012 (which do coincide with earths own vibration increasing) and if there is to be a struggle against the change, I would bet that these type of negative disaster movies are exactly what elite would use to keep us as a collective, in their low frequency "fear based" society, as well as other scare monger tactics, many of which we only have to put on the news to see.

To answer the OP I will probably see this movie but it will most likely be rented. I not at all base my 2012 opinions on anything they show me in it, in fact I bet that the 2012 references will be diluted and fleeting while we follow Cusack through "amazing?" car chases and heroic escapes as he dodges earthquakes, floods, asteroids, and bad guys.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 08:28 PM by AlienChaser
reply to post by OzWeatherman



the Mayan calender which is several intetwined calenders, does not end at 2012, its simply shifts phases as it does quite frequently


The prophesy stems from the Myan long count calander!

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We are living today in the cusp of the Mayan end times, the end of a galactic day or time period spanning thousands of years. One galactic day of 25,625 years is divided into five cycles of 5,125 years.

The Great Cycle of the Mayan Long Count calendar ends on the winter solstice of 2012 A.D. Following Mayan concepts of cyclic time and World Age transitions, this is as much about beginnings as endings. In fact, it was considered by the ancient Mayans to signify the creation of a new World Age. We are almost at the end of the fifth and final 5,125 year cycle!

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The long count calander ends after roughly 26,000 years, with five 5000 year cycles. Our concept of what happens frequently appears to differ (?)

I have always found it intriguing to consider where human evolution was around 5000 years ago during the entrance into the 5th and final cycle. When this current cycle ends it will also end the 26,000 year grand cycle.

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