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Police: Gang rape outside school dance lasted over two hours

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posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:26 AM
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I don't believe it. I can't imagine any normal person letting this happen, or joining in.




posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:40 AM
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I think normal people are becoming a rare thing with each passing year.

So many people are getting into the mind frame of “as long as it does not affect me, I don’t care” attitude. Many are passing it on to their children I fear. Also as mentioned by another poster some might actually be teaching their kids that this is a good thing to do. Add this to people no longer taking responsibility for their actions and we are left with this sort of thing.

I think someday this will be the normal thing. It makes me sad to think what mankind does to itself. We are so self destructive, it is a wonder we have survived as a species this long.

Raist



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 04:21 AM
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Ok this is disgusting, no doubt about it. What i will say however is this.

When 15 people are standing around, few will run in to stop somethign as they realise it's futile, they'll get their heads kicked in and the girl will still carry on being raped. The only thing to do is call the police, it's sad to see how long it took for someone to pick up a phone!

Secondly, when a large crowd is gathered like this something strange happens. People often assume that because there is a crowd like this that it's all fine, no one has called the police so maybe it's just a group sex thing. I know that sounds insane but that is because we are looking at it outside of the situation. People don't like to go against the group, to stand out in case they're wrong and they get embarrassed.

Yes i again state how insane that sounds, but it's a sound psychological princimple. I am not excusing these people either just trying to explain the mentality of some of the crowd.

I can't imagine what the girl is now going through. One person raping another must be traumatising, being gang raped and people randomly joining in must make you completely distrust all of humanity.

I hope every member of that crowd gets life in prison, because they've screwed up her life for a long time, if not forever.

EDIT

I felt i should explain more. Look up prosocial behavior. One of my favorite experiments was done with a room that smoke was pumped into. When on their own, with smoke appearing in the room, 75% of people reported the smoke. When accompanied by other people in the room who didn't react to the smoke only 10% of the test subjects reported the smoke.

That is the power of social influence and i think that is what happened here.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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Looking at the stats of this school that someone posted , its predominantly hispanic kids !

And i bet you it was the white teen males who raped that girl!

This disgusts me there is no way this should happen outside a school , the school is also to blame where is the security at a late night dance ?
where are the cameras around the school to catch this on film?
where are the security guards ?
why werent the teachers questioning why so many of their students were otuside instead of inside ?

remember these are 15 yr old kids !

you would think the school boards would learn after columbine , and dumblane to tighten up security and have gaurds and well lit areas and cameras so this kind of thing wouldnt happen!

And it is my belief that if you abuse someones human rights , you lose your right to be treated as a human , these kids no matter how old should be castrated then locked up in jail , either that or sent to afghanistan or iraq as prisoners and made to clear landmines !

But instead they will be protected given new identities moved to another school , just like the kids that killed jamie buldger and those twins that killed that other kid! new life in australia !

[edit on 28-10-2009 by sapien82]



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 05:09 AM
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Obviously gang-related, due to the number of people involved... Or race related. 72% Mexican, I wonder what percent are racist.

"Hey Jose, remember that cracker that flipped off the gang. Let's teach her a lesson!"

Thanks news media, you've successfully made me lose it. I'm actually done with the computer now, and this site. I just can't take it anymore... Things like this make me so angry I just can't think straight. I'm sick of continually falling into the trap of taking 1 incident and applying that to the rest of the human populace as a potential. The absurdity of it all, it must end. Goodbye all.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by sliceNodice]



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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I can't really imagine how such a thing can occur in a place that is supposed to have adults supervising and protecting children.

I would think the school is responsible & libel for allowing this to occur at a school sponsored event on school property.

I hope these boyz all get convicted and spend some serious time in the big house.

I'm finding it hard to believe that the story printed is entirely true. How can so many people all act like mindless subhumans? If true these people should be treated as a disease and their kind should be sterilized so their deformed seed cannot continue to exist in our world.

Perhaps it is time for that portion of California to be stuck again by a natural disaster so the evil and filth can be washed away. TADS Focus.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 05:49 AM
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remember these are 15 yr old kids



NO


they are not `kids` - this is amimal pack mentality they move as animals and act as animals with the alpha male elading the way.


they are nothing like kids - and need to be hung.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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I strongly feel that these people need to be named and shamed.

Just as we do in the UK, as soon as they are found to be guilty, they need to be identified in the national press.

While it is an emotive subject, I also feel that the parents should be named also. How does a person raise a young man to be so violent and hateful? I have absolutely no doubt that, if I found myself there as a young man, I would have picked up the nearest heavy thing and started smacking these guys out.

I cannot understand how any person could be raised in such a way as to not take action in this instance. Therefore, through inaction or poor teaching the parents share blame.

It'll take naming these people to force other parents into taking responsibility for their offspring.

Think you know where your son is and what he's getting up to? You'd better be certain, because you'll be held accountable in the minds of the public for your bad parenting.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Yeh well what i meant with the 15yr old kids comment is that they should be supervised at such events .

I totally agree that anyone who commits such an act like this arent in anyway child like !

And i agree that they should be named and shamed ! unlike the james buldger killers , and those evil twins !

their parents held accountable also !



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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I am not saying this is right or wrong. I am saying that people act upon their programing.
Mayans did human sacrifices, because they were socially engineered to do that - not because they were evil.
Cannibalistic tribes eat human flesh, not because they are evil, but because they are socially engineered to do so - they are brought up this way.

This event is telling its story. US and its propaganda has done its job - programed people to accept public orgy-rape.

I don't really see, how come this is a surprise to some well wise members?



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Mods, can we put "Updated" in thread title?
Update:

Five arrested in Richmond High gang rape


Police initially said about six young men were involved in the Saturday night attack. But investigators said Tuesday that they now believe that as many as 10 assailants, ranging in age from 15 to their early 20s, committed a "slew of crimes" against the girl - including raping her and stealing her jewelry.


Ok so they stole her jewelry too, that for those saying that maybe she was into it or something.


The men laughed and took photos as they took turns assaulting the girl, police said.

ANIMALS!!!!!!


Detective Ken Greco said some of the suspects have shown no remorse during police interviews. He called the incident "disgusting" and "a sad state of affairs."

No remorse even during police interviews
I don't know what to say


The attack began when someone in the group invited the girl to join in a drinking session after she left Richmond High's homecoming dance early about 9:30 p.m. Saturday, police said.

The girl quickly became drunk, and the attack began. During the next two hours, as many as two dozen people may have witnessed the rapes or been aware of what was happening, but didn't report it, police said.

So the drinking was a trap it seems!

Two Dozen people witnessed it but didn't report it.
WOW


Officers were finally alerted by a woman "who was several blocks away who heard people discussing what was occurring" at the school on 23rd Street and called police, police Lt. Mark Gagan said.


So in fact NONE of them reported it
It was a woman who was just in the area it seems but not a witness


Officers found the girl semiconscious beneath a picnic table. She was airlifted to a hospital.

Then they left her to die under a picnic table????????

Source:
www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2009/10/28/BA621ABOF6.DTL&tsp=1


The community in that area needs to get all the people who just looked and did nothing, get at them like a lynch mob.

This is truly disgusting!



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by newworld
So these four guys lie to rape huh? instead of being beat up or being sent to jail, how about those four are thrown in a locked room, one by one, with a crazy rapist for two hours so THEY can know what it feels like to be in the position of the poor girl? After that, they should be executed, I do not care if they are teenagers/young adults.


Forget being executed. They should have to live with it just like that poor girl. Seriously, wth is wrong with people?



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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They gang raped her, robbed her, then left her under a picnic table to die.

Something NEEDS to happen to the parents!

They are showing no remorse in police interviews
once again... something NEEDS too happen to the parents!



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:06 AM
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What ever happened to good old fashioned chivalry? Not one person helped this poor lady or even called the police? I simply can't believe this, it's beyond belief. It may have been 18 years since I was in high school but I went to a public school in a bad area and if someone even suggested rape they would have been outcast from any social group forever.

Drugs were somewhat accepted within some groups, fights happened, even the occasional stabbing but rape or violence against women was a whole different story. In retrospect the people I socialised with back then were very conservative and mellow by todays standards. I think most people were and I don't know what is happening to todays youth.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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As I stated in my previous posts this event is beyond shocking to me. Every aspect surrounding it is morbid beyond belief. But this pointing of fingers towards the parents...

Never in my entire childhood did my parents tell me anything in the likes of

"And remember son... never gang-rape a girl."
"OK dad! Glad you told me that because I was planning to."

Really... life is hectic nowadays and parents need to work extra hours or second jobs just to balance the bills and that does provide a seriously lacking in their children's education. A lot of parents have no preparation, no education themselves and are extremely unfit to raise children. This is a serious that must be addressed and solved as soon as possible - the home, the family's role on their children's life needs in my opinion to become a priority in our children's education - regardless of what country we live in. I will agree with you on every single aspect of that issue.

BUT... in my opinion this crime goes beyond parents and education. This girl was premeditatedly lured into a trap to be raped, abused, humiliated and traumatized for over two hours. Further more there were witnesses to the event... only instead of helping, reporting, hell... runing away in disgust of what was happening (at least!) no they just stuck around, joined the show and when it was all over left the girl like a piece of trash under a picnic table. They went home reminiscing about it.

This goes beyond education in my opinion. This goes beyond parenting and schooling. These people - every single one of them - should be judged as adults. By that I mean - every single drop of responsibility over this event should be put on their shoulders and no one else's. No excuses.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by InTrueFiction
Never in my entire childhood did my parents tell me anything in the likes of

"And remember son... never gang-rape a girl."
"OK dad! Glad you told me that because I was planning to."


You are simplifying the issue imo

my parents never told me that either

it's about values, which have an umbrella-like effect that covers way more ground than we can imagine.

good family values is a dying aspect of life.
and then people wonder why foreigners criticize America

have you seen what the girls are wearing nowadays?
the new fashion is this new skin tight highly revealing pants which I like to call somewhat thick stockings but masquerading itself as pants.

it's like they are wearing cloth made out of lickerish

and parents are like, ya go ahead, be an underage sex symbol
no problem
under-age sex is illegal but it's never to early to be a symbol of it
after all, your just a girl!



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:52 AM
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Burn the whole fricking town. They say it takes a village to raise a child, and apparently nobody is raising the children there.

I'm seriously sick of "humanity." Mankind is a disgusting blight upon the earth.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by sapien82
Looking at the stats of this school that someone posted , its predominantly hispanic kids !

And i bet you it was the white teen males who raped that girl!

This disgusts me there is no way this should happen outside a school , the school is also to blame where is the security at a late night dance ?
where are the cameras around the school to catch this on film?
where are the security guards ?
why werent the teachers questioning why so many of their students were otuside instead of inside ?

[edit on 28-10-2009 by sapien82]


Well first what the hell kind of statement is "Looking at the stats of this school that someone posted , its predominantly hispanic kids !

And i bet you it was the white teen males who raped that girl! "

You bet? Why? And what does it matter what race they were? That little girl probably wasnt thinking a race was rapeing her. You know what Race did it you naive person? The male race!!!!! Your comments are slander and un-nescessary.
The real problem here is if 20 kids are standing around participating or watching that means there were 40 parents "involved" that were either missing when the kids were growing up, just as perverted as the kids, didnt bother to teach them even a basic sense or morals, and completely dropped the ball on raising these kids!!!!
But i bet they were all white, cause thats really the issue here, race, definatly not the folding morals of America.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by InTrueFiction
Never in my entire childhood did my parents tell me anything in the likes of

"And remember son... never gang-rape a girl."
"OK dad! Glad you told me that because I was planning to."


You are simplifying the issue imo


Yes admittedly - it was a crude example obviously but I stated it to reinforce that this crime is so serious that in my opinion it cannot be excused in terms of parenting or education. The obscenity and inhumanity of what happened goes beyond that I think.


Originally posted by ModernAcademia
my parents never told me that either

it's about values, which have an umbrella-like effect that covers way more ground than we can imagine.


I agree with you whole-heartedly. The talk nowadays is the economic crisis - I myself am a lot more concerned about the values crisis that is seemingly stripping our younger generations of the very basic humanity they are supposed to be made of.


Originally posted by ModernAcademia
good family values is a dying aspect of life.

Agree. But think this specific event goes beyond it. I cannot think of these "kids" as people that did what they did because of their parents. That in my view takes away from their responsibility over this atrocious crime. As you reported yourself - these animals aren't even showing any sort of remorse.


Originally posted by ModernAcademia
and then people wonder why foreigners criticize America


I wish it only happened in America (or any given country). But no - this crisis of values involves the entire western world. I am not American and (as I stated before) having worked closely with kids, their parents and their teachers - I'm in awe at the direction our society is going.


Originally posted by ModernAcademia
have you seen what the girls are wearing nowadays?
the new fashion is this new skin tight highly revealing pants which I like to call somewhat thick stockings but masquerading itself as pants.


Couldn't agree more. Happens here too.

Here's an example from outside the US - we have a party in our country usually around February or March, we call it "Carnaval" I don't know if this is done in the US too. People get masks and costumes - it is basically like Halloween only there's no trick or treating. Anyway schools hold parades on that day and a couple of years ago I was working with some teachers during this parade. Over half the female students of ages between 10-12 were coming to the parade dressed as prostitutes. Make up, latex, mini-skirts, fishnet stockings... the works. All I could think of was "What in hell... is in their parents heads... to let them leave their house dressed like that?"

Does that show bad parenting - yes. Does that show a crisis in family values - definitely. Does that justify gang-rapes - no.



We agree MA. We do. But on this particular crime I am really stubborn to even place the guilt of what happened on anyone other than those... well I wouldn't want to break T&C but you get the point.

Cheers.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by InTrueFiction]



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Let me just say, that if this was my daughter, I would have already had a few "flashbacks" from my Army days. And as a result, all of the bystanders, the culprits, and most likely, their entire families would be dead by now. Yes it's harsh, and probably a bit unfair, but since I don't believe in fairness, something like what I described seems an appropriate response.

The most evil thing a person can do, is allow an evil thing to endure. That's what those bystanders did. Their lack of action made this entire scenario possible.

Of course, I'm sure, some retarded judge will offer them "treatment", and offer the actual Victim nothing. Seriously, communities need some vigilante justice these days. A real lynch mob, hangings in public square. Wild west style.



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