October 26th spiritual epiphany: The nature of Self, page 1

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Topic started on 27-10-2009 @ 01:22 AM by LordBucket

Since Oct 25-26 was supposed to be host to a huge, catalyzing event for all of humanity, I figured these dates would be condusive to spiritual growth. I've spent a good deal of time meditating over these past two days, and it has resulted in some revelations for me.

I don't claim these thoughts to be anything that hasn't been said by others for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years, but I'd like to share them with you.

This space that I perceive around me is available for my use. This is profound. Many is the source that suggests that the world we perceive around us is created by our mind, or manifested by us, or an illusion. I suggest that whatever it is, it is available for my use. Whether it is "real" or not is irrelevant. I perceive it. I may use it. I am worthy to use it. It is ok if I use it. It is ok for me to use in any way that I choose.

In this space there is a representation of each of you. Each of you also have a space that is available for your use, and in your space there is a representation of me, as well as others. There is a "me" in the space of everyone who perceives me as being in their space. All these representations of "me," collectively, are me. All the representations of "you" in the spaces of me and everyone else, collectively, are you.

I am capable of perceiving your space only through the "me" that is the representation for me in your space. The me in that space is available for your use, just as all the representations of each of you in my space are available for my use.

This is the nature of self that we perceive as both "other and self."

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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 02:35 AM by hoochiemomma

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 03:35 AM by phiktion

i maybe drunk but i have no idea what your talkign about

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 03:48 AM by Geladinhu

That is very cool, my friend! You most definitely got an interesting point there.

I won't say much more because I'm one step from starting my non-nonsensical existential blabber. And I don't want to hijack your thread that was beautifully put together through some good days of (spiritual) work.

Lets keep spreading this awareness!

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 04:00 PM by LordBucket

reply to post by Geladinhu

Lets keep spreading this awareness!

How? To whom?

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 04:11 PM by starsyren

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Yesterday I was in so deep of a funk, I actually felt ill....it only subsided when I called it an early day and went to bed.

Did I do it wrong? LOL!

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 04:20 PM by cindymars

reply to post by LordBucket

I totally get what your saying there Mr Bucket.

I have other things to say that are analagous but I will leave your eloquent
thought to itself.

S&F

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 04:37 PM by Deckard666

Impressive. The Revelation finally finds open minds.

Go on brother

Namaste,

Deckard

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 04:38 PM by ExPostFacto

Ah...we see so many claim to be "awake" but they are merely in the first stage. Congratulations on realizing the truth. It took me a long time to reach the conclusion you make. Truly there is only one truth. That truth is whatever you make it to be. Now you know why most cannot agree on anything. Imagine a world that gets what you just described. We would all learn to live and let live, as we are all connected and equally important in our path of life.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 05:04 PM by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by Geladinhu

Lets keep spreading this awareness!

How? To whom?

As if this past week for me weren't enough, it's a deluge!

These realizations are "for you" but they are NOT, repeat, NOT YOURS! Should this need further clarification?

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 05:56 PM by segurelha

Yes, that's a very way of seeing things.
I had in fact nice days.

And I also learnt the lesson not to follow any specific date predictions; I use astrology as a guiding tool, but I also learnt that webbot is much wrong with lots of false doom.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:35 PM by LordBucket

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Should this need further clarification?

YES! It definitely requires further clarification.

Specifically, if you would describe clearly how to change self / make use of space with specific intent, that would be very helpful, thank you.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:36 PM by LordBucket

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Ah...we see so many claim to be "awake" but they are merely in the first stage.

Well, since you're obviously so far ahead of us mere mortals, if you would kindly explain the next step, share the next epiphany, that would be much more helpful than boasting about how you already know what I've shared.

truth is whatever you make it to be.

Great!

Explain how, please.

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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 09:00 PM by Vanitas

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For what it's worth (and I really don't know the worth of such subjective information), I can tell you that for three or four days, approximately from the 23rd to the late hours (CET) of the 26th, I felt very, VERY "weird" -but in a good sense.

It's very difficult to explain, especially to someone who does not know me.
And even I had never had such a feeling before: it was a mixture of anticipation of something very tangible, but not (necessarily) on the common "world" timeline.

(And NO, it had nothing to do with "prophecies" of any kind.

I am usually unaware of them, anyway. And if I am aware of them, en passant, I do not pay attention to them.
Besides, if that were the case, I would have to be in a constant state of anticipation!

)

Not today, not anymore.
And yesterday wasn't all that good, either.
But the 25th and the 26th... yes, there was something there.
I don't know what it was, but something it was.

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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 09:30 PM by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by EnlightenUp

Should this need further clarification?

YES! It definitely requires further clarification.

Why? You don't own the knowledge/awareness. It's not your property. It's absolute socialism! It was given for you to share as best you know how, not hoard.

Specifically, if you would describe clearly how to change self / make use of space with specific intent, that would be very helpful, thank you.

Erm...occult/esoteric study? Start seeking. I think the resouces on this are pretty limitless for all practical purposes. But, yes, specific intent is...specific intent!

See, it's already working.

(And I keep confusing you with Lord Baskett)

And why should Geladinhu not reconsider declining to blather? Git back here!

reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 06:36 PM by LordBucket

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Why? You don't own the knowledge/awareness. It's not your property. It's absolute socialism! It was given for you to share as best you know how, not hoard.

I created this thread to share the idea with people and in the opening post I stated that I probably wasn't the first to think of the idea. Where do you get the notion that I'm claiming exclusive ownership?

Erm...occult/esoteric study? Start seeking. I think the resouces on this are pretty limitless for all practical purposes. But, yes, specific intent is...specific intent!

I'm sorry, but that's really not very helpful.

reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 06:53 PM by notreallyalive

reply to post by LordBucket

Thanks for sharing!

It's so important to write these down, then someday you look back, when this is part of you, or totally forgotten, and think "Wow, I said that!"

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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 06:54 PM by Epsillion70

I wanted to change the world. But I have found that the only thing one can be sure of changing is oneself.

There are things known and there are things unknown, and in between are the doors of perception.

There isn't any formula or method. You learn to love by loving - by paying attention and doing what one thereby discovers has to be done.

Aldous Huxley

reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 07:03 PM by LordBucket

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I have found that the only thing one can be sure of changing is oneself.

One popular interpretation is that the "representations" of others that we perceive are as much ourselves as they are anyone else. Since we have no direct contact with any "outside world," it's not even possible to change anything other than ourselves, only our Self.

What you're saying would be very consistent with that interpretation.

I'm reminded of Ho'oponopono, in which the injury of others is perceived as caused by self. If you see an injured person, it is completely your responsibility, because their injury is manifest in your reality. So, healing is performed by apologizing to them for manifesting them as injured, and expressing love and gratitude to them.

reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 07:49 PM by EnlightenUp

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by EnlightenUp

I created this thread to share the idea with people and in the opening post I stated that I probably wasn't the first to think of the idea. Where do you get the notion that I'm claiming exclusive ownership?

Thank you for sharing. I enjoy reading every post on the subject from whomever it may come. I get pretty intense about it myself.

But, I didn't claim you claimed. You just claimed that I claimed you claimed. I presented my translation of truth of why any spark of awareness must be spread.

I'm sorry, but that's really not very helpful.

Then I must apologize as manifesting you in my reality as unhelped. However, do you find that field of inquiry objectionable in some way? It specifically deals with what you seem to be asking.

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