What If Mechanics And Nutritionists Switched Jobs?, page 1
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Topic started on 27-10-2009 @ 12:17 AM by DevolutionEvolvd
What If Mechanics And Nutritionists Switched Jobs?

“Howdy, welcome to Kelly Brownell Auto Repair. Can I help you?”

“Yeah, something’s not right with my car. It’s sluggish and it’s burning way more gas than it used to. Can you maybe take a look under the hood, or run some kind of test, or–?”

“You say she’s burning too much gas?”

“Definitely. I have to fill up like twice a week now, and I don’t even drive that much anymore.”

“Well, there’s your problem.”

“Huh?”

“You’re putting too much gas in it.”

“Uh … I’m not sure I’m following you here.”

“Well, it’s simple. She’s burning too much gas. So stop putting so much gas in the gas tank. You see?”

“Well, uh … don’t you think maybe something’s wrong with the engine, or the fuel system, or maybe there’s a leak, or–”

“No offense, buddy, but you’re talking to a professional here. I see this all the time. People come in with cars that are sluggish, and every darned one of them is filling up the tank all the time. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to put two and two together. If she’s burning too much gas, stop filling her up all the time. Then she can’t use too much gas. Like I said, it’s simple.”

“Okay. Right.”

“And if she’s still sluggish, you need to get her out on the highway a few times a week and run her at a high speed for an hour or so.”

“Well … that kind of seems like it might just make the car use more gas.”

“No, no, no, you’re missing the whole idea here. Give her less gas, but drive her around a lot more. That’s how you get your mileage up. Less gas, more miles, that means more miles per gallon. You understand the math?”

“Uh …”

“Look, it’s not hard. Lucky for you, the gas stations around here are required by law to show you exactly how many gallons you’re putting in the tank. So let’s say you normally put in fifteen gallons. Just watch that meter real close, and then stop when you’ve put in, say, ten gallons. Then drive her around a lot more. Problem solved.”

“Uh, yeah, sure. Thanks.”

“And if that doesn’t work, come back next week. I’ll be happy to give you the same advice again.”


Unfortunately, this blogger has outlined the sad reality that people with questions about nutrition experience daily. I'm posting this in the Medical Issues & Conspiracies forum because it's this nutritional misinformation that just may be causing the most detrimental diseases, AKA diseases of civilization.

One of the reasons why I wrote this thread is due to the amount of times I've heard the documentary SuperSize Me referenced as a source of evidence that overeating, becoming sedentary and eating fatty foods are completely detrimental to a persons health and that these things, in combination with the consumption of fast foods, are too blame for heart disease, diabetes, obesity, et al.

Supersize me is a very misleading in many ways. One of which is how it blames Spurlock's weight gain and poor lipid profiles on the Fat and excess calories(typically from fat) in McDonald's menu items, and to some extent his lack of physical activity. What Spurlock fails to point out is how many carbohydrates he consumed and how they affected his health. In fact, even the Doctor in the video suggested that his problems were from his overconsumption of fat.

As a result, Tom Naughton, the author of the blog excerpt from above, decided to make his own documentary to expose the truth. It's entitled Fat Head.

Have you seen the news stories about the obesity epidemic? Did you see Super Size Me? Then guess what? … You’ve been fed a load of bologna.

Comedian (and former health writer) Tom Naughton replies to the blame-McDonald’s crowd by losing weight on a fat-laden fast-food diet while demonstrating that nearly everything we’ve been told about obesity and healthy eating is wrong. Along with some delicious parody of Super Size Me, Naughton serves up plenty of no-bologna facts that will stun most viewers, such as: The obesity “epidemic” has been wildly exaggerated by the CDC. People the government classifies as “overweight” have longer lifespans than people classified as “normal weight.” Having low cholesterol is unhealthy. Lowfat diets can lead to depression and type II diabetes. Saturated fat doesn’t cause heart disease — but sugars, starches and processed vegetable oils do.


Here's a few clips from the show.







And a great point that fast food joints don't make us fat:



An outline of Spurlock's faulty math:



No more using a bogus documentary to support your claims guys.

-Dev







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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 09:12 AM by Rawhemp
The problem isn't carbohydrates, that would be ridiculous seeing how our body's main source of fuel is carbohydrates. The problem is carbs made from grains, sugarbeets, corn, sugarcane etc.

Furthermore a low fat/low protien is one of the most beneficial diets but only if your main source of calories is sweet fruits.

You can't take advice from anyone now a days when it comes to anything food related, doctors and nutritionist are vastly uninformed or have been taught things that are completely false, the government perpetuates these fallacy's even more and then tv works to reinforce them.

My advice is do your own research and experimentation, thru these methods I've come to the conclusion a fruit based diet is the only way (but don't take my word for it)

Just an fyi for anyone watching this video, within the first 2 minutes it claims that your muscles and organs run off fat. While this may be true it is very inefficient and will only happen if you starve your body of carbohydrates.

Also high insulin spikes are only the result of eating processed carbs, fruits do not cause this problem at all. Its also a myth(somewhat) that carbohydrates turn to fat they actually burn off as heat in a process known as facultative dietary thermogenesis.

the conversion of carbohydrates to fat - a process known as novo lipogenesis is very rare and metabolically costly, using up to 30% of the energy in the carbohydrate. ie, if it were to happen (very unusual), 100 calories of excess carb would become only 70 calories of fat storage.


One more point, in the last video he claims no one forces anyone to eat fast food.

This is true to an extent but when you factor in that fast food is now the cheapest food source available, usually a great deal cheaper then fruits and vegetables, why are people gonna pick healthy food over something they know taste good, is fast and cheap?



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reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 01:51 PM by DevolutionEvolvd
Originally posted by Rawhemp
Furthermore a low fat/low protien is one of the most beneficial diets but only if your main source of calories is sweet fruits.


Come on now, you're just repeating stuff you've heard without actually doing any research. please provide me with any study showing a LOW FAT diet that is beneficial. I can provide a study that confirms that they are NOT beneficial if you'd like.

You can't take advice from anyone now a days when it comes to anything food related, doctors and nutritionist are vastly uninformed or have been taught things that are completely false, the government perpetuates these fallacy's even more and then tv works to reinforce them.


Can't disagree with that.

vice is do your own research and experimentation, thru these methods I've come to the conclusion a fruit based diet is the only way (but don't take my word for it)


A fruit based diet is low in essential fats and low in essential proteins. Not to mention the fact that a fruit based diet would be high in fructose....which would no doubt raise triglycerides and could lead to diabetes and/or gout, et al.

fyi for anyone watching this video, within the first 2 minutes it claims that your muscles and organs run off fat. While this may be true it is very inefficient and will only happen if you starve your body of carbohydrates.


Fat burning is much more efficient. In fact, the heart prefers KETONES as fuel, which are a byproduct of burning fat for energy.

[quoteso a myth(somewhat) that carbohydrates turn to fat they actually burn off as heat in a process known as facultative dietary thermogenesis.

You're saying that carbohydrates are not stored as stearic acid in adipocytes?

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reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:16 AM by DevolutionEvolvd
Are you posting studies with the hopes that I either don't understand them or don't read them?

www.nursingcenter.com... 36

That "study" is merely a review, I'm assuming a Meta-Analysis, of sports nutrition research. It is irrelevant to our discussion and, besides that, the abstract provides no details as to how these studies were constructed/conducted.

www.articlesbase.com...

I seriously can't believe you actually posted that article as "prove," much less a credible source.

www.drmcdougall.com...

I see now. You're plagiarizing McDougall's own article when arguing with me. And you're telling me I need proof?

What you've done is the exact opposite of researching. You have a preconceived notion, you search google for support and you post it as proof positive, regardless of their credibility or relevance.

You're asking for proof from me but when I say that "Insulin drives the storage of carbohydrates into fat cells," I don't provide it because it's Basic Biochemistry, not because it's easily searchable on Google.

-Dev


reply posted on 29-10-2009 @ 11:17 AM by DevolutionEvolvd
reply to post by Rawhemp



You're not presenting facts, my friend. I wish you were because it would make this much more interesting.

-Dev
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