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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 06:31 AM by felonius

The determination of the "UFO Disclosure" folks is admirable.

But.

It doesn't (and wont) make a rats butt of difference. To say pictures like this are "FOR TOTALLY SURE, REALLY AND TRULY PROOF" is really pressing the boundaries of tolerance.

Sorry, thats just the way I feel about it.

Face on Mars? Thats kinda strong and a maybe. The rest is debatable. When you can see a "great wall of planet x" or a legit pyramid, call us.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 06:48 AM by 0bserver1

reply to post by felonius

well I'm only trying to point out that something may be there. By pointing at some structures that entirely look unatural in shape. Maybe this will stir the pot and be picked up by much better analysts and researchers as I am and if they dismiss this than I know that this is nothing more then rocks and dust.

meanwhile Ill embrace the fact that there could something out there that wants our attention.

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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 06:51 AM by 0bserver1

reply to post by amazing

And thats a fact...

thnx

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:00 AM by whattheh

reply to post by Phage

Hey Phage, Your input is always top notch...I thank you for that...keep up the good work.

Question for your here though.

Do you really think these LRO pitcures have that resoloution?

It sure seems like you could make out more ground features in the photos if they were really at that resoloution. You look at those mars photos from orbit and you can make out ground features through an atmosphere.

The moon is a body with very little atmosphere to blur these images and we have clearer pictures from orbit around Mars than we do of the moon.

I sure wish some Billionaire would send some real cameras up there and give us some real pictures.

Photos of earth through our atmosphere provide better pictures to me than we have of the moon which should have less distortion and clearer details do almost no atmosphere.

Interested to hear your thoughts as you always seem to have a good take on these subjects.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:05 AM by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by 0bserver1
But why is It that this Indian news site posts this message out?

India: NASA must admit ET presence on the moon

India Daily is a tabloid, it is no more credible than the Weekly World News. Consider what it gets wrong in the article, saying NASA is just now talking about water on the moon after India discovers it; in fact (as you mention above) finding water was a joint effort between Bangalore and NASA, building off of data going back to NASA's Clementine and LRO missions. Further, the article has no sourcing, no direct quotes. And thus far, nothing it claims has come true.

But back to your images...could you tell us what natural phenomenon you ruled out before deciding these may be alien bases?

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:21 AM by 0bserver1

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I'm not a specification analyst. but i believe these are some specification from the payload.

The TMC will image in the panchromatic spectral region of 0.5 to 0.85 µm, with a spatial/ ground resolution of 5 m and swath coverage of 20 km. The camera is configured for imaging in the pushbroom mode, with three linear 4k element detectors in the image plane for fore, nadir and aft views, along the ground track of the satellite. The fore and aft view angles are ±25º respectively w.r.t. Nadir. TMC will measure the solar radiation reflected / scattered from the Moon’s surface. The dynamic range of the reflected signal is quite large, represented by the two extreme targets – fresh crust rocks and mature mare soil.
TMC uses Linear Active Pixel Sensor (APS) detector with in-built digitizer. Single refractive optics will cover the total field of view for the three detectors. The output of the detector will be in digitized form. The optics is designed as a single unit catering to the wide field of view (FOV) requirement in the direction along the ground track. The incident beams from the fore (+25°) and aft (-25°) directions are directed on to the focusing optics, using mirrors. Modular camera electronics for each detector is custom designed for the system requirements using FPGA. The expected data rate is of the order of 50 Mbps. The dimension of TMC payload is 370 mm x 220 mm x 414 mm and mass is 6.3 kg.

what can you make out of this ?

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:36 AM by 0bserver1

reply to post by DoomsdayRex

India Daily is a tabloid, it is no more credible than the Weekly World News.

I know but I think its most remarkable that this article circulates within these new sources. But then again why would they put pressure on NASA if this is some joint mission?

And why does NASA always have to put their noses in Other countries space exploration?

Are they afraid that somethings come out?

Maybe they want a foot stuck before the door closes in front of their noses?

In my opinion something smells probably that shoe?

But back to your images...could you tell us what natural phenomenon you ruled out before deciding these may be alien bases?

Thats simple All the other patternless craters beside the ones I picked out!

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:44 AM by Privacy-Please

How does this mean disclosure is coming? All there is are dirt and rocks, nothing there constitutes as a moon base. I think, psychologically you want something to be there so your brain makes something up.

Those are in no way shape or form, buildings.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:50 AM by SpaceMonkeys

yeah I cant really see anything in these images, they just appear to be irregular shaped terrain to me.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 07:59 AM by rjmelter

You know what Rj is really tired of?

Relying on Governments to give us information on stuff the private sector has the right to know.

WHY can the private sector not go to the moon and check out these places? Take a HD Video camera with them and what not?? HUH?? I DONT GET IT.

Build our own Moon STATION. If I had the funds and the man power I would... Why does nobody else? Im tired of being limited to a planet full of fools, manipulators... corrupt people... Why do we give them all the power?

If someone created their own rocket to go to the moon like the farmer guy in that movie that came out a few years ago would they destroy it? Discredit him? Protect him from himself? Sabotage etc?

I've had dreams of space exploration ever since I was little (literal at bed time type dreams). My soul would not tease me if it wasnt possible to do so.

ManKind Needs to worktogether and venture out into space to come to a fuller understanding of who we are and where we are in the universe... Is it infinite? Are our souls?

KEEP ON DIGGING AND BREAKING THE GOVERNMENTS BACK BY DOING YOUR OWN RESEARCH-EVENTUALLY ENOUGH STONES WILL BE REMOVED... Or the stones will remove you

There will come a time when we have nowhere left to go on this planet except unto a new one.

I sure hope its the intelligent and innocent ones that make it... instead of the corrupt ones that we give everything to and falsely trust in. - (Oh yeah, we are doing this for you, but now that our survival is in jeopardy and or way of living is about to change, why dont you give us a little more money, we could have done it easily before but this way, we can live less stressfull lives and do a better job right?? wRong) People who dont ask questions are fools because they know better and still act carelessly... Thats what the Government likes. Dumb you all down. Death to all of yas

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:07 AM by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by 0bserver1
I know but I think its most remarkable that this article circulates within these new sources.

What new sources are you talking about?

Originally posted by 0bserver1
And why does NASA always have to put their noses in Other countries space exploration?

Are they afraid that somethings come out?

Or perhaps because space exploration is becoming more and more of a collaborative effort between NASA. Why jump to conclusions something nefarious is going on?

Thats simple All the other patternless craters beside the ones I picked out!

That still leave a lot of room for other phenomenon.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:09 AM by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by rjmelter
Relying on Governments to give us information on stuff the private sector has the right to know.

WHY can the private sector not go to the moon and check out these places? Take a HD Video camera with them and what not? HUH?? I DONT GET IT.

There is nothing preventing any one from doing this, outside of funds, resources and know-how. I know those are huge factors, but there is no government law or conspiracy preventing any private company from space exploration.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:11 AM by kix

I used to think that those who insisted on moon structures and moon inhabitants were simply loony cases, that was back in 1999.
I went to Houston space center in the 70s (early) and shaked hand as a kid with astronauts and went to camp with some of their sons, so went the whole movement of "we did not go to the moon" started I was pretty angry at those who said it was all a hoax.

But in some ways it opened my eyes to "anything" should be challenged at investigated, then I researched and here in Mexico we see UFOS so much they dont even get to the news, simply stated if someone asks about UFOS we send them to Tepoztlan on a clear night, because chances are that they will see them almost on a daily basis

So I began investigating and with some help of fellow ATS (some of them long gone), I dont need a moon photo of an alien doing their garden on a lake of the moon to convince me that its inhabitated and serves as a base for some ET.

The simple fact that now that India has sent something and NASA is censoring and telling us otherwise is enough fact. Id love to talkk to one of our millionarie astronauts and ask them about ETs but most probably the mst have signed paper to seal their lips.

What we really need is a big telescope or better wet have a billionaire such as Bill Gates putting some $$$$ to send a rover to the moon and end the charade, but then again the ETs are calling the shots and the wont allow it to happen.

my 2 pesos

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:11 AM by 0bserver1

reply to post by DoomsdayRex

What new sources are you talking about?

Sorry i mean NEWS.

That still leave a lot of room for other phenomenon.

So whats keeping you?

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:12 AM by Black Mambo

I believe that were not the only living planet out there but come on guys the pictures are just dirt, rocks and some highlighted red and blue patches, unless you can actually show me a picture where you can visibly see a building structure I’m gonna go with shadows from ROCKS!!!!

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:22 AM by manmaidslave

ummmm, i'm not at all convinced.
i don't see any buildings, i see hills and valleys on a moon, that is all. All landscapes have hills and valleys, but they are not buildings.
There is nothing of any value here, people are just to ready to see something. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. the molehill just happens to be on the moon.

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:40 AM by Silicis n Volvo

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

i agree 100% these imaes show nothing more than ridges, craters, mounds and ditches on the moons surface...the shadow cast makes them look artificial and the extra colour added by the guy who posted this thread makes you think they are buildings...just look carefully at the direction the sun is coming from...the shadows cast...and surrounding features on the ground...you'l see this guy is just pointing out larger ridges or craters and tampering with them to make it look man made (or ET made)

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:42 AM by MisterWizard

The title of this thread is very misleading. And good topics get pushed down for a speculative thread posing as actual fact. I was excited when I clicked on this topic, thinking some exciting new discovery had been made.

No offense to the OP, but maybe a question mark is in order.

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reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:42 AM by 0bserver1

reply to post by kix

But in some ways it opened my eyes to "anything" should be challenged at investigated, then I researched and here in Mexico we see UFOS so much they dont even get to the news, simply stated if someone asks about UFOS we send them to Tepoztlan on a clear night, because chances are that they will see them almost on a daily basis

Great you should do a thread around this?

The simple fact that now that India has sent something and NASA is censoring and telling us otherwise is enough fact. Id love to talkk to one of our millionarie astronauts and ask them about ETs but most probably the mst have signed paper to seal their lips.

Right on..!

What we really need is a big telescope or better wet have a billionaire such as Bill Gates putting some $$$$ to send a rover to the moon and end the charade, but then again the ETs are calling the shots and the wont allow it to happen.

Well that seems to be seeing ...

reply posted on 27-10-2009 @ 08:45 AM by MKULTRA

I would really like to see a little ruler superimposed on the pictures, where the ruler has both feet and meter measurements. It is provoking to see things that 'look like', but how big are these things. It isn't helpful for me to say that the picture itself, at X altitude, shows an area the size of X. Maybe I'm not smart enough, but a ruler would really help.

Incidentally, Observer1, I really like your new avatar, but the movement of the UFO combined with the 'fade to black' distracts me so much that I have to scroll by reading your posts. Is there any way you can slow it down a lot more, or make it so that it doesn't flash so fast?

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