H1N1 vs. Onion , page 1
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Topic started on 26-10-2009 @ 03:15 PM by genius/idoit
I received this e-mail and thought I'd share

In 1919 when the flu killed 40 million people there was this Doctor that visited the many farmers to see if he could help them combat the flu. Many of the farmers and their family had contracted it and many died. The doctor came upon this one farmer and to his surprise, everyone was very healthy. When the doctor asked what the farmer was doing that was different the wife replied that she had placed an unpeeled onion in a dish in the rooms of the home, (probably only two rooms back then). The doctor couldn't believe it and asked if he could have one of the onions and placed it under the microscope. She gave him one and when he did this, he did find the flu virus in the onion. It obviously absorbed the bacteria, therefore, keeping the family healthy. Now, I heard this story from my hairdresser in AZ. She said that several years ago many of her employees were coming down with the flu and so were many of her customers. The next year she placed several bowls with onions around in her shop. To her surprise, none of her staff got sick. It must work.. (And no, she is not in the onion business.) The moral of the story is, buy some onions and place them in bowls around your home. If you work at a desk, place one or two in your office or under your desk or even on top somewhere. Try it and see what happens. We did it last year and we never got the flu. If this helps you and your loved ones from getting sick, all the better. If you do get the flu, it just might be a mild case.. Whatever, what have you to lose? Just a few bucks on onions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now there is a P. S. to this for I sent it to a friend in Oregon who regularly contributes material to me on health issues. She replied with this most interesting experience about onions: I don't know about the farmers story... but, I do know that I contacted pneumonia and needless to say I was very ill...I came across an article that said to cut both ends off an onion, put one end on a fork and then place the forked end into an empty jar...placing the jar next to the sick patient at night. It said the onion would be black in the morning from the germs...sure enough it happened just like that... the onion was a mess and I began to feel better. Another thing I read in the article was that onions and garlic placed around the room saved many from the black plague years ago. They have powerful antibacterial, antiseptic properties.


Wishing you and yours the best.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:22 PM by happygolucky
reply to post by genius/idoit



Don't believe every email you get...


And...do some research so others don't have to do it for you.




[edit on 10/26/2009 by happygolucky]


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:29 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by happygolucky



I didn't "believe it"but who am I to say it's wrong?Hey you get the quote I just gave somebody on another thread.I'm going to see if it was you there to


A closed mind is like a closed book--just a block of wood.(inventions of Chinese)

[edit on 26-10-2009 by genius/idoit]


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:44 PM by getreadyalready
Originally posted by happygolucky
reply to
post by genius/idoit



Don't believe every email you get...


And...do some research so others don't have to do it for you.




[edit on 10/26/2009 by happygolucky]


You link only served to verify the myth as one passed down for centuries, and that no scientific verification had been done. How does that jive with "Don't believe every email you get....and do some research"???

According to that link, I still find the concept very interesting, and haven't seen anything in opposition to it.

I doubt if the onion turning black has anything to do with germs, it is probably some type of oxidation, but I can verify that eating a high octane diet of garlic and hot things keeps me from ever getting mosquito bit!! I can sit around people getting ate up, and they don't bother me a bit! The same goes for fleas and ticks.

So, thanks for sharing OP, and as the email says....what have you got to lose? Why not place an onion about, just in case it helps a little. It makes far more sense than this H1N1 vaccine that doesn't have centuries of first hand accounts, and is ineffective by admission of its own makers who claim "previous exposure to H1N1 does not provide adequate protection against reinfection." In other words, "this vaccine won't help a bit."

So......yea Onion...maybe, and boooo vaccine...definitely!


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:01 PM by happygolucky
reply to post by getreadyalready



Start Here...

For those not familiar with virology, viruses that affect humans do not affect plants. There is NO rational reason in the world for a virus to be attracted to an onion or for an onion to attract or absorb a virus.

The story then confuses viruses with bacteria.

And finally, the one thing ALL of you sophisticates should have caught is this:

"The doctor couldn't believe it, and asked if he could have one of the onions to place it under a microscope. She gave him one, and when he did, he found the flu virus in the onion."

This doctor actually saw a live virus in his microscope?

Please....doesn't everyone know that it takes an electron microscope to see a virus (or Rife's microscope to see a live one)?

When it comes to Internet Myths and Hoaxes, always be sure to count the EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!

For example: "Whatever, what have you to lose? Just a few bucks on onions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

What have you got to lose? How about your dignity?

Want to avoid the flu: increase your vitamin D (about 5,000 IU daily) and take some astragalus root.







And here...


More...?



reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:06 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by happygolucky


Do you have stock in the vaccine?what do you have against onions?do you think it would be detrimental?I don't see your strong objection.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:11 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by happygolucky



Well that is a better quote, but it is just as dramatic as the original OP, and full of misinformation.

For example:

Please....doesn't everyone know that it takes an electron microscope to see a virus (or Rife's microscope to see a live one)?


No microscope can see a "live" virus, as most scientists do not consider them "alive." This is one of the main differences between viruses and bacteria, and one of the reasons they are harder to control.

And:

Want to avoid the flu: increase your vitamin D (about 5,000 IU daily) and take some astragalus root

As you can probably tell, I am a big fan of Holistic Medicine, but no matter how much Vitamin D you ingest, it won't be effective. A very high percentage of Vitamin D passes directly through your body, and many studies show that supplements and even diet are ineffective at raising the levels. The only significant way to raise these levels is through Sunlight, or UV therapy.

I hope you aren't taking it personally. I appreciate you bringing more discussion, and more links, and I am not totally buying into the Onion thing, but your original "debunk" was seriously lacking, while the tone was seriously condescending, and your latest "debunk" seems equally silly to the OP?


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:13 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by randyvs



I've told a couple different people here on ATS about this as remedy. My Mom was born and raised on a farm in Mo.


My Mom grew up the same way, in the same place, and in her late 50's, I don't think I can ever remember her going to see a doctor for anything more than stitches!

That Midwestern stock is pretty hardy, and they know how to survive!


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:15 PM by happygolucky
reply to post by getreadyalready




I'm attacking the lack of evidence in the OP...


I too am a fan of Holistic Medicine - just not a fan of posting information without due diligence.


You may question mine, but I took the time to seek it out - think the OP did..?






reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:20 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by happygolucky



That is a good point, they may not have done any further research than just copy and paste. However, I still appreciate the info, and I will do with it as I see fit. If they had researched it a little and found no support, they may have never raised the subject, and I wouldn't know RandyVS is from Missouri, and I wouldn't have set a bowl of onions on my desk!

Now, at the very least, I have something to add to my drab leftover lunch!




reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:21 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by happygolucky



I could not find any scientific data about onions and swine flu.I also never said I was a doctor,scientist or onion farmer.I just passed along something I heard I can assure you there was no malicious intent.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:24 PM by genius/idoit
reply to post by getreadyalready

Thank you,I didn't know this was a "only things that are proven to the satisfaction of happygolucky website,I thought it was a discussion board.I thought it was worth discussion.



reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:27 PM by randyvs
reply to post by getreadyalready





That Midwestern stock is pretty hardy, and they know how to survive!

Yes! absolutly. The heartland is full of home remedys like this one,
that drive people like Happy out of their minds.

Ahh hey happy don't go away mad. I'll have to u2u a bunch redneck jokes
just to cheer you up.

Happygolucky


You may question mine, but I took the time to seek it out - think the OP did..?

I see your point. all good.


[edit on 26-10-2009 by randyvs]


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:29 PM by happygolucky
Originally posted by genius/idoit
reply to
post by happygolucky


I just passed along something I heard I can assure you there was no malicious intent.



I believe you...


Now, how 'bout we call it the day on the 'back-n-forths'...?


You may have the last word if necessary...





cya on the boards...


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:50 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Lil Drummerboy



Yes, medicine still has "suggestive selling." Our human race seemed to do pretty well for 80,000 years or so. Illnesses have not evolved as quickly as our technology (evidenced by our increasing population), so we are surely better equipped to deal with them now than ever before!

As a rule, I only go to a doctor after I know what is wrong, and what treatment I would like to pursue. It took me awhile to find a doctor that could deal with a patient like me, but my current one is terrific.

My last visit, I had a weird skin lesion, and I was worried it might be a melanoma, even though it didn't look like any of the examples I found. I went to see the doctor and he asked, "Did you lance it or try to cut it off yet?" I love that guy! Anyway, he wrote me a prescription for Bactroban and told me to go home and work on it!! I am happy to say that it is successfully removed!
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