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Originally posted by thedman
Nothing to do with collapse? While impact damage may not have been
directly responsible it did initiate the collapse in other ways.
Impact ripped away building facade and kindled numerous fires inside,
damaged standpipe system to pump water through building. The
elevators in that section were wrecked preventing FF from accessing
floors without long exhausting climb.
Ever try climbing stairs wearing
full bunker gear, SCBA and carrying hose and tools. Try it sometime...
Sprinklers had been disabled by collapse of WTC 1 & 2 which prevent sprinklers from controlling spread of fires.
Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
From what I've garnered from firefighter interviews was that atleast an hour before 7 fell there was speculation, atleast among some people, that it might.
I could take her statement as just feeding off the information she has available to her and comments made either to her, or ones she was able to hear.
I could see three deer who had been shot, after watching 2 die I wouldn't need a veternerian for me to say that deer is going to be the next one to die.
Except that only 2 deer got shot and blood from one deer splattered onto a 3rd and suddenly he just died.......
Yea that makes total sense...
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
I thought this thread was just in regards to the video, and not the "conspiracy of 7" per se.
I think that considering the events that day, building 7 coming down would be "normal" in the context of something unexpected happening. Considering that 2 buildings that pretty much noone expected to come down, collapsed. I'd say that for people in the immediate area to "expect" that building to also come down, considering the damage, was "normal".
Overall I think there is something amiss with building 7. I'm just commenting on the video.
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by Nutter
So NIST is wrong in their educated guess at what happened to WTC. Your point is?
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
Reread it. He is speaking of the TOWERS. Back to the point, name five other highrises that were built with the same type of design as the towers.
BTW, just being on fire doesnt qualify as a match to any of the three buildings that fell that day. Although, we could discuss steel frame buildings that have had collapses due to only fire........
A tube within a tube structure
Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
However, could you point out where the 767 crashed into the bank building at high speed?
Originally posted by thedman
Explain how similar if one fire actively and sucessfully fought and other
abandoned?
There was no speculation. The CIA informed them the building was going to come down roughly an hour and twenty minutes before it did.
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
From what I've garnered from firefighter interviews was that atleast an hour before 7 fell there was speculation, atleast among some people, that it might.
yes, she probably heard about it second hand; but probably not by chance.
I could take her statement as just feeding off the information she has available to her and comments made either to her, or ones she was able to hear.
False analogy. No one claims that Building 7 was hit by an airplane.
I could see three deer who had been shot, after watching 2 die I wouldn't need a veternerian for me to say that deer is going to be the next one to die.
Originally posted by EvilAxis
Originally posted by thedman
Explain how similar if one fire actively and sucessfully fought and other
abandoned?
The 56 floor Caracas Tower in Venezuela which burned fiercely for over 17 hours on Oct 15, 2004 is an example of a steel framed high rise fire that burned without effective firefighting intervention.
Sprinklers and standpipes did not function, due to poor maintenance, there was a lack of fire extinguishers inside the building and the intensity of the fire prevented firefighters from reaching the tower's upper floors.
Engineers who inspected the building's structure when the fire was out reported that it was "very solid."
Pictured here: aa-1177.blogspot.com...
Originally posted by Janky Red
Building 7 was poorly made and the other building had a air conditioner that keep the steel from melting.
Originally posted by corvin77
I browsed this thread and didnt see it, so apologies if this has been mentioned.
The bbc also spoke of the collapse 20 mins before it did, hope my video embedding works...
Originally posted by Alfie1
Anyone who goes for the second alternative presumably also believes the BBC is " in on it "