Has Obama being elected done more to divide the country?, page 1

reply to post by JIMC5499

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I have to agree to disagree!

It is not Obama that has divided this country, it is his puppet masters. I would say Pelosi is the one that has divided the country the most. I would like to see anyone come to this site and post a positive thread about her. I cannot think of anything that she has said that did not drip with acid.

To her each and anyone that disagrees with her "sob sob" are Nazi, right wing, terrorist henchman of the Republicans. Nancy, endisnighe here, hate you and your policies as much as I hate the Republican sockpuppets. You will not get me to join The NWO Agenda. Good Day.

reply to post by ThaLoccster

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I actually believe over the 4 years tha this Presidency will last that he will bring most of the people together. Some people might hate Bush, but Americans as a whole hate Marxism/Communism more than they hate Bush. So I think people will continue to grow together in larger and larger numbers to fight off his attempts to bring the nation down.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

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I think that goes without saying unless you believe the country was "united" before him.
I would say it's more divided

reply to post by endisnighe

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I agree but Obama chose to be the head of this Hydra.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

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I'll ask you a pointed question.Do you support obama's stance on late term abortions?

reply to post by SamuraiSam

Originally posted by SamuraiSam

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I actually believe over the 4 years tha this Presidency will last that he will bring most of the people together. Some people might hate Bush, but Americans as a whole hate Marxism/Communism more than they hate Bush. So I think people will continue to grow together in larger and larger numbers to fight off his attempts to bring the nation down.

Right, because the current President of the United States is a "Marxist/Communist" who is attempting to "bring the nation down." And you are all for "fighting off" this bad man, right?' Do us all a favor and go watch Glenn Beck screech about the ACORN Czar who wants to set up a death panel to kill your grandma while burning all the remaining copies of Obama's "real" Kenyan Birth Certificate.

Back on topic: Obama's election was a sign to most of us that the Country is, on average, far less divided then we see in the media. The real Powers that Be so desperately want us to buy into the whole left/right dichotomy thing that it seems to be all we see anymore. Honestly though, we're really not all that different, and most of us are somewhere in the middle.

But what the backlash against Obama has shown is that there are still those that are vehemently opposed to anyone not like them. Sure, we may be on average closer to the middle then the media depicts, but those that are on the extremes are all the more extreme and in many cases all the more vocal and bordering on the violent. NOTE: this does not mean that everyone who does not support Obama is a racist, in fact people that claim that are themselves generally racists; however, if you believe as Samurai Sam seems to believe, that he is a Communist secretly trying to destroy America. . . well, let's just say you "might be a redneck."

reply to post by Artephius Abraxas Helios

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What you seem to have a hard time understanding is that only a small percentage of people actually voted FOR Obama. Most of the them voted AGAINST the party of Bush.

reply to post by SamuraiSam

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Sam, you quite literally have NO evidence what-so-ever for that statement other than that you wish it to be true. Saying I'm having a hard time understanding your opinion is fine as long as you know that it is only your opinion. I really don't care if you have read somewhere in some poll that people only voted "Against" the party of Bush and not "For" the party of Obama, it does not give you a monopoly on the "Truth" and acting as if it does only makes you look childish.

That said, it may be factual that many voters voted against a continuance of Bush's policies; or, it may be that people were encouraged by then Sen. Obama's rhetoric. Everyone has their reasons for the way they voted, and their reasons are myriad, and personal to each individual voter as is the case in any election.

However, I don't believe I have a hard time understanding why you would want your view to be true. You want to believe that the only way a half black maybe Kenyan, probably Muslim, certainly Communist, and not at all like you, man named Barrack Hussein Obama could ever win the Presidency of the United States of America is if it were some backlash against the last President. And now that he's here, he's destroying your country and you want it back, dammit. Come on... you know that's how you feel, go ahead and say it. There's alot of people just like you on this website...and judging from stars and flags there's more of you then there are of people like me. Go ahead, feel free you'll probably gain some people's respect if you just come right out and say it. Spew your hate and fear. No one will blame you.

But it won't make your personal views anymore true or anymore verifiable. The truth is, this Country is more homogenized (hint to Sam: think Milk the drink, not Milk the movie) then it has been in the past. We're pretty much the same in the suburbs as we are in the city, and from coast to coast. Our differences are only magnified by the lens of the media, and Obama is a good example of how we can come together; but unfortunately also a good example of how the media can distort our differences. I could go on with you, but it would not be worth the time. No lessons will be learned here today, and only anger will ensue. I bid you good day.

Peace,
-AAH

reply to post by L.HAMILTON

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The birther threads are that way -------->

This isn't about that topic.

To be honest, none of your post was in regards to this topic.

I really would like to keep the conversation about the division of America, and not about Obama per se.

[edit on 10/26/2009 by ThaLoccster]

Thank you THaLoccaster

I found this article interesting.

US Politics More Vitriolic, Divided

Obama's predecessor, George W. Bush, was not immune, nor was former President Bill Clinton. But today the volume of screeching partisanship is cleaving the American electorate, perhaps as deeply as at any time since the Civil War a century and a half ago.

"The environment is much more extreme today because of the level of public involvement, the level of incivility among both the political elite and the public," said Chris Dolan, a political scientist at Lebanon Valley College in Annville, Pa.
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While he believes that American history has seen dirtier political periods, Frazier sees today's climate partly the result of the "media culture."

"Vitriol seems to sell. If you are telling people the end of the world is at hand, they watch," he said.

This is SO true! There's so much nastiness on the airwaves that people hear it and pick it up and repeat it. I really wish we could be more civil when discussing our differences of opinions...

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

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How in the heck are murdering unborn children, raping and pillaging the traditional nuclear family, feminizing men and the masculining of women, denigrating the foundation of marriage and giving handouts to people who are uninterested in providing for themselves called progress!?!? WTF!?!?

How are creating record deficits and debts, reneging on countless campaign promises, destroying the foundation of capitalism, misrepresenting legislation and circumventing the Constitution signs of progress!?!? WTF!?!?

Hell yes, Obama has done more to divide the country than to unite them. He ran as a centrist (liar!) and sprinted to the far left the second he was elected. He parties in the WH while the country burns. He appoints lobbyists and corporate moguls to positions with regulatory powers without any congressional oversight. He hides the language of legislation behind complex legaleze and away from the eyes of the public until mere moments before it is voted upon. He offers pork laiden incentives to Congresspersons to support his agendas. He does all of these things DESPITE his campaign promises to do NONE of them.

"Progress" towards something in an of itself does not necessarily denote a good thing - nor does "change." Oh yes, he is "Changing" America... for the worse. And we are rapidly "Progressing" straight into Socialism.

So, yes... divisive he is as those of us who are old enough to remember an America that was built upon personal responsibility, hard work, and a society built upon family values is burnt to the ground. This is NOT change we can believe in nor is this progress!!!

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