David has travelled all over the world gathering his theories, and has spoken to thousands of people. I
would say he got his information from that, plus reading books.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:09 PM by zaiger
Originally posted by autowrench
David has travelled all over the world gathering his theories, and has spoken to thousands of people. I would say he got his information from that, plus reading books.
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Well i was aiming more towards sources. Traveling around the world to give lectures and talk to fans is not really a source of information.
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:22 PM by zaiger
reply to post by andy1033
Like that how did you find out about mind controll in school in 1992????
But we both ended up in this stuff. Like i said i found out they where using mind control in school in 1992, and have been monitored ever since.
Like that how did you find out about mind controll in school in 1992????
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:15 PM by andy1033
Originally posted by zaiger
reply to post by andy1033
But we both ended up in this stuff. Like i said i found out they where using mind control in school in 1992, and have been monitored ever since.
Like that how did you find out about mind controll in school in 1992????
I found out they where monitoring people at school in 1992, in london. Cannot go in exact deails, and i have been monitored ever since. I did something to understand something, and stumbled over the fact that they are monitoring people with that stuff at school.
It was my alevels, and i got put on some watch list, and have been ever since. I cannot do anything in my life.
Me knowing this lead them to label me, sensitive shall we say at school, i paid no attention to it then, but only after i left the bbc, did all this stuff matter to me on here. It was like the bbc, they gave me the last chance to live a normal life, but since then all this stuff, has been in my life.
So i think that bbc being run by mi5 or what ever, like icke, somehow i got pushed into this stuff. I left bbc in 98, and my life was utterly destroyed not long after, and since then i have been into all this, and this has been my life.
But i think the bbc, is the common denominator, between what happened to him and me.
I think i was pushed into all this, and he probably thinks that too. In around 2000, i think my kundalini energy really got opened, and i did not know what was happening to me. But like i said before the bbc, none of this meant anything.
Though i know they labeled me some sort of sensitive at school, i paid no attention to it, as i thought everyone was like that, but it seems they are not.
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:44 PM by Snippy23
reply to post by zaiger
This is a great question, one I kept thinking about when I saw Icke speak a few years ago. My attempts to ask him two simple questions led to me being firmly silenced by both Icke and his crowd.
Icke is very charismatic, very persuasive, and he handles crowds - but not challenges - with skill. His relationship with his followers is close to that of a successful TV evangelist. You can see why he succeeded on TV, and why the Greens saw him as a good spokesman.
His material, on the other hand, is based on the thinnest of evidence. I'll have to ask you to do some checking of your own - it's never going to make you rich, but it's always more fun than being told, I think. Have a look at two of his key informants, whose videos he sells. Arizona Wilder, his primary source on the reptilian existence of the British Royal Family and all sorts of sickening rituals and vicious crimes (never formally reported by her or Icke to the UK Police) is not even believed by other mind control experiencers, believers and researchers, Credo Mutwa, alien experiencer, alleged inventor of a cure for AIDS and a witch doctor, or something, supposedly persecuted by his tribe for his revelations, seems to be taken seriously only by Icke and his followers. His stories read like pure fancy.
I know nothing of Icke's income from books, videos, personal appearances and website subscriptions, but I guess it's substantial. I could believe that it's what motivates him to do what he does, but I certainly can't argue that he doesn't believe what he says. There is nothing new - or illegal - in making a good living from being an evangelist. He could hardly find a more effective way of using his particular skills.
What he doesn't do, I think, is to make sure that what he preaches, publishes, hosts and sells is actually true. Instead of committing himself to giving us facts, his website hosts all sorts of nasty stuff, while he goes on about the Illuminati, the Satanic Bloodlines and the rest of it without providing convincing arguments for his assertions. Not censoring is one thing. Giving people the opportunity to publish sick fantasies is another.
You may find that researching his sources - for example the many references in his books - takes a while, and leads you back down some odd trails to some odd people. What I've found so far suggests that some of the people he allows to use his site, and sometimes features in his books and lectures, may well be nastier and more dangerous than any alleged Illuminati or NWO.
This is a great question, one I kept thinking about when I saw Icke speak a few years ago. My attempts to ask him two simple questions led to me being firmly silenced by both Icke and his crowd.
Icke is very charismatic, very persuasive, and he handles crowds - but not challenges - with skill. His relationship with his followers is close to that of a successful TV evangelist. You can see why he succeeded on TV, and why the Greens saw him as a good spokesman.
His material, on the other hand, is based on the thinnest of evidence. I'll have to ask you to do some checking of your own - it's never going to make you rich, but it's always more fun than being told, I think. Have a look at two of his key informants, whose videos he sells. Arizona Wilder, his primary source on the reptilian existence of the British Royal Family and all sorts of sickening rituals and vicious crimes (never formally reported by her or Icke to the UK Police) is not even believed by other mind control experiencers, believers and researchers, Credo Mutwa, alien experiencer, alleged inventor of a cure for AIDS and a witch doctor, or something, supposedly persecuted by his tribe for his revelations, seems to be taken seriously only by Icke and his followers. His stories read like pure fancy.
I know nothing of Icke's income from books, videos, personal appearances and website subscriptions, but I guess it's substantial. I could believe that it's what motivates him to do what he does, but I certainly can't argue that he doesn't believe what he says. There is nothing new - or illegal - in making a good living from being an evangelist. He could hardly find a more effective way of using his particular skills.
What he doesn't do, I think, is to make sure that what he preaches, publishes, hosts and sells is actually true. Instead of committing himself to giving us facts, his website hosts all sorts of nasty stuff, while he goes on about the Illuminati, the Satanic Bloodlines and the rest of it without providing convincing arguments for his assertions. Not censoring is one thing. Giving people the opportunity to publish sick fantasies is another.
You may find that researching his sources - for example the many references in his books - takes a while, and leads you back down some odd trails to some odd people. What I've found so far suggests that some of the people he allows to use his site, and sometimes features in his books and lectures, may well be nastier and more dangerous than any alleged Illuminati or NWO.
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:02 PM by undo
reply to post by zaiger
define "verified"? because this word in application is very wobbly. what is clarification for one person is silliness to someone else. so are you saying textual evidence or what?
[edit on 26-10-2009 by undo]
define "verified"? because this word in application is very wobbly. what is clarification for one person is silliness to someone else. so are you saying textual evidence or what?
[edit on 26-10-2009 by undo]
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:08 PM by zaiger
reply to post by undo
i mean anything that would back up any of his claims. Verification and clarification are two different things.
i mean anything that would back up any of his claims. Verification and clarification are two different things.
reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:46 PM by undo
reply to post by zaiger
well this is one area i've done some studying in. here's an excerpt from a thread i did on the topic:
Did you know, there's not a single remaining piece of art from ancient Sumer, that depicts a humanized "god"? All the humanized gods in mesopotamian art, are AFTER the black sea flood. Prior to the flood, they appear to be reptilian or amphibian or a bit of both.
I've been scouring the archives for sumerian artifacts, specifically, and the only other things I can find are plates, bowls, vases, and odd little symbols, like charms or fetishes, of some kind. There are no depictions of human gods, no depictions of human kings, or human shaman or human anything, until after the flood. suddenly, in akkad, you see the formerly sumerian gods depicted as humans wearing priestly garments and symbols of their divinity.
After researching some of the texts that came out of the area and time period, I concluded the following:
1. There was an advanced civilization on this planet prior to the black sea flood, it was spaceflight worthy. So when the flood came, the advanced civ simply vacated with their technology.
Evidence of these concepts can be seen in The Book of 1 Enoch, where it describes all manner of bizarre events, including what sounds to be space flight, genetically engineered human hybrids who were the half gods of legends, also known as the nephilim in biblical texts (the mighty men of old, men of reknown, genesis 6). Gilgamesh of the Epic of Gilgamesh, was one such example. He was a god king, considered to be two thirds divine due to his parentage.
Who genetically engineered them? Sounds like the sumerian gods did. (See "Enki and Ninmah"). And what did the sumerian gods do? They spliced divine dna with human dna, creating a hybrid ruling class, otherwise known as "When kingship descended from heaven."
Now if the sumerian gods were reptilian or amphibian or similar, and they spliced their dna with ours, and then made the offspring into kings and rulers, well, there's an answer.
2. the "serpent" of the garden of eden in genesis, was also called the great dragon in the book of revelation AND in the sumerian texts.
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the word serpent in the bible, comes from two places, "nachash" and "seraph",
tiny.cc...
plural "seraphim." the seraphim were a race of "angels" (et.al, one of many prior creations of god).
ask questions and i'll try to offer more precise information.
[edit on 26-10-2009 by undo]
well this is one area i've done some studying in. here's an excerpt from a thread i did on the topic:
Did you know, there's not a single remaining piece of art from ancient Sumer, that depicts a humanized "god"? All the humanized gods in mesopotamian art, are AFTER the black sea flood. Prior to the flood, they appear to be reptilian or amphibian or a bit of both.
I've been scouring the archives for sumerian artifacts, specifically, and the only other things I can find are plates, bowls, vases, and odd little symbols, like charms or fetishes, of some kind. There are no depictions of human gods, no depictions of human kings, or human shaman or human anything, until after the flood. suddenly, in akkad, you see the formerly sumerian gods depicted as humans wearing priestly garments and symbols of their divinity.
After researching some of the texts that came out of the area and time period, I concluded the following:
1. There was an advanced civilization on this planet prior to the black sea flood, it was spaceflight worthy. So when the flood came, the advanced civ simply vacated with their technology.
Evidence of these concepts can be seen in The Book of 1 Enoch, where it describes all manner of bizarre events, including what sounds to be space flight, genetically engineered human hybrids who were the half gods of legends, also known as the nephilim in biblical texts (the mighty men of old, men of reknown, genesis 6). Gilgamesh of the Epic of Gilgamesh, was one such example. He was a god king, considered to be two thirds divine due to his parentage.
Who genetically engineered them? Sounds like the sumerian gods did. (See "Enki and Ninmah"). And what did the sumerian gods do? They spliced divine dna with human dna, creating a hybrid ruling class, otherwise known as "When kingship descended from heaven."
Now if the sumerian gods were reptilian or amphibian or similar, and they spliced their dna with ours, and then made the offspring into kings and rulers, well, there's an answer.
2. the "serpent" of the garden of eden in genesis, was also called the great dragon in the book of revelation AND in the sumerian texts.
tiny.cc...
the word serpent in the bible, comes from two places, "nachash" and "seraph",
tiny.cc...
plural "seraphim." the seraphim were a race of "angels" (et.al, one of many prior creations of god).
ask questions and i'll try to offer more precise information.
[edit on 26-10-2009 by undo]
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