Originally posted by Getsmart
Originally posted by chardonnay
I dont comprehend what you are saying. There is a great deal of misinformation concerning the RH neg factor and the only reason I believe it is unclonable is because of Hitler.He was obsessed with creating more hitlers and found he couldnt clone himself which led to further obsessions.What is disturbing to me is why was my education so vastly different from yours.. I dont mean to divert the intention of this thread but it seems to me if it cant be cloned ,it cant be cloned simply put.
First may I say I am honored to have among us one who is of an earlier generation to have been about in the days when Hitler may have confided to you his inner preoccupations. For unless you were personally in his confidence it is hard to be certain what really transpired in his mind given the many conflicting accounts of his inner psyche as well as the barrage of disinformation woven around his persona and ensuing mystique.
That Hitler sought to Clone a "Master Race" is evident as an extension of his reasoning in his various writings and speeches. That the German people were somehow lead to believe that this race was their own is in itself a mystification by his propaganda minister Josef Goebbels. In fact this "Master Race" was that of a Ubermensch or Super Human entity he allegedly confessed to several close friends as having once had the privilege of meeting in person in an underground cave at Externstiene in central Germany.
There is more on this in a thread I started some time back in case you are interested - click on the quote:
“The new man is living amongst us now! He is here!” exclaimed Hitler, triumphantly. “Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him.”
If you read the book The Boys from Brazil or seen the spin-off movie you will note that it is all about the Cloning of Hitler, which has been said to be based on fact... True or False is anyone's guess, but I did note the presence amongst us of the key victim of the Congresswoman Giffords shootings, Federal District Court Judge Roll who strangely seemed to have been Cloned from Hitler, his wife being a likely Clone of one of Hitler's love interests, the noted cinematographer Leni Riefenstahl.
Wikipedia: The Boys from Brazil
Click for more on a possible Hitler Clone: Judge John Roll
Regarding what "can and can't be Cloned" which seems to be one of your key preoccupations in this thread, I direct you to a recent article in the Spiegel, which web browser Google Chrome can directly translate if you don't speak German.
Can Neanderthals Be Brought Back From The Dead?
Apparently far more can be Cloned than is commonly alleged and we are certainly not told of the genuine limits of Cloning technologies. I hope this helps provide insight into the problem sets which appear to trouble you in your foray into Human Cloning issues. If certain blood cells present technical difficulties in their direct Cloning, such as RH Negative, it seems rather simple to Clone full blown Humans who have RH Negative blood. Hence we can maybe differentiate replication of certain cells from the full fledged Cloning of entire biological entities when considering their feasibility?
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