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The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones

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posted on Oct, 15 2010 @ 01:25 PM

Originally posted by someotherguy
In the last 10 minutes of this interview, Bob Dean talks about synthetics, clones, & soul transplants

Hi Someotherguy,

Thanks for that link, I hadn't heard this interview and Bob Dean does say after minute 1:20:20 that:

"We are Cloning human beings. That's just... science. We're doing the same thing the Annunaki did a hundred... two hundred thousand years ago. We're Cloning human beings."

Aboard some of the ships, there are laboratory ships out there, and you've gotten this from other whistleblowers, on some of those laboratory ships there are vast containers filled with Cloned human beings. And would you believe, and you probably would because you've been doing some homework, that if you were to take you and me or Jim or any of the others out there, they might be able to show you a Clone of us. And they are able to help us take our soul from this body and put it into a new body... That is a reality."

He stated this in response to a question regarding the capabilities of our own Shadow Government. However it is unclear in his last sentences, whether the "they" who help us with Soul Transfers are Humans or Aliens. Unless the implication of his reply is that our Shadow Government is ALIEN ?


posted on Oct, 16 2010 @ 11:30 AM
Regarding who, or more likely "What" is behind the shadows, pulling the strings of the invisible shadow government that give its orders to the puppet governments we think we elect, here are a few other leads from The Clone Conspiracy.

It appears that those behind the Clone Conspiracy have no regard for Democracy or Republican values. They happen to source most leaders in Royal Bloodlines and use other DNA sourcing mostly to get the genetics which they do not prefer to 'carry the bag' or basically 'take the rap' when it comes to endorsing responsibility for the most visibly harmful aspects of their New World Order scenario. In this instance, we can look at how the most eminent Founding Father of the American Republic was used to bring down the United States by way of devious stock market dealings which precipitated the Global Economic Crisis.

George Washington and Bernard Madoff

If we examine their faces more closely, we will note that George Washington had a broken nose, which will shorten its visual appearance, and had wooden dentures such as would tend to swell the upper and lower lips. Also, these are clearly not the same 'soul' or person inside, so the artist's rendering of George Washington tends to reveal the character of that historical figure whereas the photograph of Bernard Madoff fails to reveal character.

Here we have seen how those who OPPOSE ROYALTY are treated when cloned. Many examples exist elsewhere where opponents to the BLOODLINES are Cloned into BUFFOONS.

George Washington opposed the control of the Reptilian faction working through the Illuminati. He claimed to walk into the woods before battles to listen to voice which inspired him, and it seems pertinent and most likely that these voices were not those of the same Aliens who are operating the Clone Conspiracy, otherwise it is improbable that they would have used him in such a capacity at the turn of the 21st century. Is his Clone MAD and OFF his rocker, or it because he MADe OFF with other people's money, in either case the name is well suited to his role in the Alien plot to TAKE DOWN THE USA.

You may remember that in earlier postings we saw how the Medici Dynasty has its own Italian Black Nobility representative today on the Global Scene in the form of David Rockefeller, Cloned from the founder of the Medici Bank. Today we will note the interesting example that yet another Elite bloodline - which also seemed to have fallen to the wayside and had left the news and officially vanished from public view - has itself re-emerged RIGHT IN OUR FACE as one of the most powerful interests in today's world, one of the few to be able to rival the Rockefellers: meet the Rothschilds.

If you do not yet know who they are, then I must recommend that you do your homework. Yet it is important to remember that these are not a Hebrew family genetically but that they are Kazar originally from Southwestern Asia. Yet they have tremendous influence among the Illuminati, where they are said to represent the capstone of the Pyramid with the All-Seeing-Eye, Guy de Rothschild was even reported to be the highest shapeshifting Reptilian overlord PINDAR. The Rothschilds although not of Hebrew descent are extremely active in the State affairs of Israel and they are key actors in the Zionist movement, not the one which seeks to free the Jewish people, but the one which seeks to subvert the world and thrust us into a global dictatorship.

The Occult Link Between the Rothschilds and Israel

For this reason it is ESSENTIAL to separate this Elite Banking Dynasty and their foul ambitions from any association with the INNOCENT people of Israel and those who are either of Jewish faith or heritage. This specific family has usurped their position within that community, exploiting and endangering them to the point of potentially precipitating their downfall as scapegoats of the Illumnati's nefarious plans. For this reason I chose the following description written by a Jew about the Rothschild designs on the world and their design of the Israeli Supreme Court building.

Masonic Order Designs Symbology in Israeli Supreme Court Building

The preceding video states that the Masonic Temple that was recently created in a cave below the Temple of Solomon was established in person by Illuminati and former P2-Lodge Grand Master Giuliano di Bernardo. He states that the Illuminati which were resurrected during the 18th century in Germany had then migrated to the United States of America, that that they have now returned to Europe. We will note that he published a book about the Temple of Solomon, called 'Rebuilding the Temple'.

LINK in Italian - easy to translate with Chrome browser

Giuliano di Bernardo

Also present at that inauguration was the patriarch of the Rothschild family, Lord Jacob. Here he is pictured in front of his country residence which is not nearly representative of even the tip of the iceberg of their fortune, as they control much of the wealth of the planet..

Lord Jacob Rothschild at Waddesdon Manor

A few rooms to house a vast personal collection

His rental Spencer House at St James when 'slumming' in London

You will note that Lord Jacob is credited by Texe Marrs for being behind the election of Barack Obama and he can be seen on the cover jacket of his video:

Rothschild's Choice

What is however more disturbing yet for us, is the fact that Jacob Rothschild is a Clone of the last Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire, Francis II.

Jacob Rotshchild and Francis II

What remains to be noted is that the Royal Bloodlines, allegedly designed by genetic engineering by a race of Alien Invaders, were first preserved for thousands of years as BREEDING GROUNDS for servile or possessed AGENTS of Infiltration of human society, herding humanity like sheep and exploiting and culling us as needed.

Also is noteworthy that in today's world where Monarchies are fragile in their potential for unencumbered continuous arbitrary autocratic rule, there has been designed a STEALTH BLOODLINE using Cloned Royals to run the affairs of our world.

It is painfully apparent that these Clones are NOT Hosts for the original souls of the individuals who were the source of the DNA, but are instead Mind Controlled "blind agents" which means that they are doing the bidding of Aliens without even being aware of it, except at the higher levels where it seems that they are also POSSESSED as HOST AVATARS for Aliens who want to directly run our affairs INSIDE THE SKIN OF A CLONE.

This will remind you of the film THE MATRIX where the Alien power behind the Matrix was able to instantly move into the Body of any individual who transformed themselves instantly into a HOST. This also explains why, as soon as anyone achieves a position of power, those around them say that POWER CHANGED THEM and that they are no longer the same person as before. This has been for eons attributed to some mystical feature of power or some dreadful shortcoming in human character, that power corrupts and that nobody can evade its corrupting effect. Yet it appears that this is false, that in fact Power Attracts Aliens who then take Possession of those in Power.

In the case of the Rothschild family, the Rockefellers, the Saxe Coburg Gotha who hide behind the name Windsor, and a number of other high Bloodlines, it is likely that THEY KNOW and are willing accomplices in our farming and enslavement within an Alien Agenda. Regarding the others, the verdict will come later once we know more.

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posted on Oct, 18 2010 @ 02:39 AM
GS, you said: "George Washington opposed the control of the Reptilian faction working through the Illuminati. "

Yes, he did. GW was a light-being. He wrote back in 1798:

"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of separation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a separation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned."

- Letter to Rev. G. W. Snyder, October 24, 1798

"Diabolical tenets" of the Illuminati... yeah, he knew the score.

posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 04:08 PM

Originally posted by someotherguy
GS, you said: "George Washington opposed the control of the Reptilian faction working through the Illuminati. "

Yes, he did. GW was a light-being.

"Diabolical tenets" of the Illuminati... yeah, he knew the score.

Hi Someotherguy,

Many thanks for confirming that George Washington, even if he was a Freemason, wasn't one of the Illuminati INFILTRATORS. This explains also why he was Cloned into a BAD ROLE in modern history, as if those running the CLONE SHOW were slapping themselves in the back with a slimly laugh as they watched the Clone of the most influent founding father of the United States bring down the edifice.

This underlines a process which had already been detected:

Historical opponents of the ROYAL BLOODLINES find themselves cast as Clones into undignified roles, as buffoon comedians and trivial actors, when it isn't a darker role like the one above.

For example, an alarming number of major players in the French Revolution were cloned as members of Comedy Teams seen together in many French movies. I have not posted details of this before, as few probably know the actors involved outside of rare ATS members living in that country. A reason for this is that comedy is extremely culture dependent and loses that which is funny when translated, making the notoriety of comic actors highly geocentric.

Yet, this pattern does reveal an underlying motive and logic to the cloning of historical figures.


Certain Bloodlines are Cloned to lead us, to control us, to orient us. These are usually the ROYAL BLOODLINES put into place for their easily manipulated or possessed Genetic Characteristics. Others are also however nonetheless Cloned, despite their lack of these genetic characteristics. But they are either programmed, prodded towards, impelled or directed a role in the cast of the HUMAN COMEDY as slapstick amusers or court jesters. They are thus MADE INTO FOOLS in full public view.


Historical figures from Bloodlines are Cloned into an army of mind-controlled influence wielders who penetrate most aspects of human society in full allegiance to an inhuman agenda.

Historical figures opposing Bloodlines are Cloned and programmed to become 'a bad joke' cast in degrading roles as village idiots or as undignified caricatures trivializing their former ideals.

Those behind the Clone Conspiracy - whoever they are - are some VERY SICK Characters.


posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 07:06 PM
This is not necessarily a clone situation, but several people have mentioned that Hillary Clinton seemed like she'd been replaced. In this recent interview between Alex Jones & Webster Tarpley, a caller says that she used to know Hillary, & now she seems like a different person. Of course, the thought of replacement doesn't occur to them, but it seems like a strong possibility to me.

At about 3 minutes in:

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posted on Oct, 19 2010 @ 07:44 PM

Originally posted by someotherguy
This is not necessarily a clone situation, but several people have mentioned that Hillary Clinton seemed like she'd been replaced. In this recent interview between Alex Jones & Webster Tarpley, a caller says that she used to know Hillary, & now she seems like a different person. Of course, the thought of replacement doesn't occur to them, but it seems like a strong possibility to me.

At about 3 minutes in:

Here's an interesting article on alleged cloning of Hillary:

posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 04:23 PM

Originally posted by someotherguy
This is not necessarily a clone situation, but several people have mentioned that Hillary Clinton seemed like she'd been replaced.

Hi Someotherguy,

Hillary has been called everything from a Reptilian to an Alien to a Clone, and for just cause. People who have known her get freaked out because she isn't the person they knew. What to conclude? That she has shapeshifted into a Reptilian? That she is actually an Alien masquerading as a human? That she isn't Hillary but a perfectly crafted laboratory produced CLONE of Hillary?

Not only are "THEY" Cloning former representatives of Royal Bloodlines or historical figures, but they are also churning out Replacement Clones for important personalities. The question remains for some of these, are they Clones being replaced with new Clones, or are they Humans replaced by'First Edition' Clones?

Regarding the Program of replacing VIPs, we will note the significance of one of the earliest known replacements of a Celebrity in modern history. And we can in this light consider that the replacement of Paul McCartney* - not by a Clone but by a very dissimilar actor - was an "improved" TEST of the the media and entourage management during high visibility replacements of Public Figures, leading to a live trial of techniques to be used in the CLONE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM. After all, if they work with a shady ill-suited replacement by an unconvincing actor, nonetheless coached, handled and promoted as the real McCoy, using the same tried and tested techniques with an identical Clone would be a cinch.

* See details in signature link

If "THEY" can pawn off a poor impostor as one of the most highly visible celebrities, then they can apply that knowledge as a pre-planned "handling package" for promoting Clones of VIPs without risking being discovered. They may also have tested at that time the process muzzling the Press, Silencing Family and 'entourage' while enlisting complicities in intelligence agencies and the industry.

Originally posted by wcitizen
Here's an interesting article on alleged cloning of Hillary:

Hi W Citizen,

Thanks for joining our discussion with a contribution which brings the subject HOME by focusing on the important use of RESERVE CLONES kept on standby and evoked in order to menace and coerce those in positions of power to either OBEY or die anonymously, since their picture perfect replacement would take their place so that we would still consider them to be alive, even living long beyond their actual death. Examples of other Leaders who have been replaced by Clones would ensure this understanding. We can even wonder if such wasn't the reason that John Kerry, during the famous Bush Kerry Debate of the 2004 Presidential Campaign, patted Bush on the back to verify 'first hand' the presence of his control box, seen here on his back:

3rd Debate Kerry 'Pat Down' of Bush

Remote control prompter technology for untrained replacement Clones

In the very interesting link you posted I will reproduce one image as well as quote the author of that analysis.

Hillary clone coached by "clone-handler" George McGlaris in Dover, New Hampshire on January 7th,2008

Note the 'agent' to the left who appears to be something sensibly worse than a simple White House or State Department Secret Service body guard. Also, you won't find any info - or if you do PLEASE POST IT - about George McGlaris. Is that his real name or a fake identity of an Agency Operative? We will note his hypnotic hand position similar to that of faith healers or magnetizers as seen in the right hand position below:

Mind Controlled Hillary Clone Gaze

Hypnotized Hillary Clone under Mind Control

Here is a paragraph worth quoting here from the analysis from W Citizen's link:

"The use of human clones in American political management is only now becoming apparent. The last USA President not to be cloned was John F. Kennedy. Usually, when a President or major American public figure ceases to be compliant to the demands of the controlling corporate elite, they are quietly killed, cremated and replaced with lookalike, mind-controlled clones. These days, at the Camp David human clone laboratories (Maryland) and elsewhere, it is possible to produce an adult human clone from originator DNA and matched tissue bank samples in less than 36 hours."

"When President George Bush Snr left office in 1993, he was Clone Number 34 in his DNA originator line. Most of his previous 33 clones had been used and terminated at that point. When President Bill Clinton left office in 2001, he was Clone Number 21 in his line. When a President is terminated and cloned, it is standard practice to do the same with his close family members. If this is not done, they immediately notice the difference and cause difficulties."

"Human clones are not ensouled and do not, therefore, have access to the higher dimensions through reflection, intuition and spiritual practice. These higher dimensional data-links which ensouled humans have, help them to appear quick, flexible and alert in conversation, particularly when stressed. The absence of this potential for minute-to-minute inspiration or revelation in clones gives rise to a simplistic body language and inappropriate physiognomic responses in complexly nuanced situations (picture example here). It also means that when faced with metaphorated questioning or elliptical comments, they can appear slow, dim or confused. Anything that human clones are confronted with which falls outside their specific day-to-day conditioning or expectation engenders childlike conflict-signalling and tantrums (picture example here). For this reason, two or three clones are kept up and running for each principal at any one time. They are very nearly identical in appearance, but some look younger or more innocent than others, and some have superficial tissue differentiations that cannot be concealed by makeup when viewed in close-up or under strong light."

"If two different clones of one individual are interacted with at a conference on successive days by an ensouled human, the differences are often very evident. "Which George did you speak to today, Tony?""

"Human clones are also prone to making extraordinary bloomers when speaking in public, and not noticing their mistakes. George Bush Jnr has an extensive back catalogue of such infelicities. For example, speaking on Australian television in September 2007 about the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York on the 11th September 2001, one of the Bush Jnr clones said: "And I believe those of us who live in liberty have a responsibility to promote forms of government that deal with what causes nineteen kids to get on airplanes to kill three thousand students."

Minute 3:44 3:55

"Later in the same month, the same Bush Jnr clone was reported by CBS News as follows: “He (President George Bush Jnr) dismissed concerns about lack of political progress in Iraq, saying people there are still recovering from the brutal rule of Saddam Hussein. Then, pounding his lectern, the president said, 'I heard somebody say, "Where’s Mandela?" Well, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.' The actual former South African president, of course, is still very much alive.” (CBS 20.09.07)

The last statement assumes, or course, that Mandela was not also killed and replaced with a CLONE.

Next after minute 2:00 you will note some of the less alarming of this clone's 'software issues' that were ironed over by their humorous exploitation - a shocking response when you consider his position as 'leader of the Free World':

Analysts attribute the more serious dysfunctions of the George W. Bush Clones to problems caused by tainted DNA tissue due to a drug abusing G.W. Bush, requiring later edition clones to be Cloned from prior G.W. Bush Clones. As second generation Clones they apparently tended to have serious reliability issues. Had he been a low level employee in your average company he wouldn't have been able to hold on to his job. But as ruler of the leading superpower, nobody seemed ready to officially question his lucidity or competence. Maybe because they knew what he is, and because they don't want to see themselves and their own families replaced with ready-made facsimile copies?


posted on Oct, 20 2010 @ 08:50 PM
The bizarre things that Bush said probably are from programming breakdowns. That's what Dr. Beter said had happened when the Carter robotoid freaked out about the killer swamp rabbit. That was supposedly so embarrassing for the Controllers, that they tried to kill him in a marathon (didn't work).

posted on Oct, 28 2010 @ 01:56 PM
It does appear that there have been historical patterns of breakdowns of human Clones. We can wonder if this problem has been solved, or if it has been managed by adding an accompanying routine: regularly replacing Clones with new Clones of the same series issuance, so that they don't break down. Could this be why Hillary Clinton seems to be in different versions? We will note that sometimes the placement of the eyeballs in their sockets will be different, which can be seen in some Hillary pictures. Numerous George W. Bush clone pictures show him to have quite different ear cartilage, pointing out that either he went to get ear shape surgery, something highly unlikely given the absence of improved appearance, or rather that subsequent versions of Clones sport somewhat different ears also.

So we know there are Clones out there functioning in roles as VIPs and world leaders. There are apparently also Cloned slaves working reportedly in the Dulce New Mexico underground base, constituting the main workforce in this highly secret location where numerous Cloning and Genetic experiments take place. Here is an unusual change of style and tone for this thread, starts with some humorous anti-piracy warnings, with a more politicized media-centric image manipulation mind warping venture into what might be going on down underground:

Compilation Factoid Video showing Cryogenic Storage Vats in the Dulce Base

For reference here is some of the other earlier released bootleg footage of the Dulce facilities:

Earlier footage of Cloning Vats

The following video from the first source posted above has further elements which are referred to as leaked case photos of experimental beings made up from hybridization laboratory trials which design and engineer biological test entities for scientific trial purposes - and which are often part human and part animal. Their source is alleged to be leaked documents from the Dulce database and the video also states something after minute 7:00 which is of special importance to me, as it corresponds to the sort of entity which I witnessed personally. It refers to the presence of a Series of beings in this Genetic Engineering and Cloning Facility which they refer to as "Draco Vampire Reptiloids" which in layman's terms could be translated as Dragon-like flying and human-blood-drinking Reptilian humanoids - and which might explain the provenance of the entity which I saw walking the streets. After all, it would make more sense that it was Man Made as it was wearing human factory-made clothing, although possibly those entities above referenced could also be hybrid beings made using actual Draco Reptilian DNA combined with other entities genetic matter.

Genetic Engineered Entities in the Dulce Underground Base

posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 02:47 AM

Skull & Bones Involvement in the Clone Conspiracy

This post is to bring forth the likelihood of an involvement of an Occult Secret Society, one of the most gruesome in its rites and actions, ruthless in its placement of members in key power positions, and merciless when it comes to human rights or even the most remote consideration of the interests of humanity.

While books written and documentaries have been filmed about this most Elitist Secret Society in the USA, none have fully explored the reasons and motives behind the Brotherhood of Death, why they meet in a TOMB and why their initiation rites take place in a coffin. The Tomb building is said to be 'littered' with skulls and bones of multitudes of famous leaders of the past - draw your own conclusions.

Skull & Bones Tomb building on the Yale Campus

Clues to what this organization was set up to accomplish can be found by virtue of a number of its characteristics. It only selects its members from the Elite Bloodlines with consanguinity with the Blue Blooded Royal families found invariably among the Illuminati. It ensures that their allegiances, is FIRST, and ONLY to this Sect, and not to any other human group, organization or duty. This means that a Skull & Bones President cannot place their duty to the Nation above that to the Sect, and that they are to place the Nation at the service of Skull & Bones.

Our ENEMY: Skull & Bones membership

They are the Enemy for quite a few reasons. Firstly like any Secret Society with a vocation to exercise power they subvert other institutions from small local administrations to entire States or Nations as well as using controlling power through banks and corporations to further their own hidden agenda to the detriment of legitimate stakeholders. This makes them the potential enemy of anyone with a vested interest in anything related to the Public Good or with any form of investment in efforts or assets in a publicly held corporation where Bonesmen are present. To defend them some may say "But they produced profit". Yet we cannot know how much additional profit was sacrificed to reach parallel secret objectives. They may say "But they upheld good policies". Yet we cannot know how many other good policies were opposed or defeated at the behest of their Secret Society allegiance. We can only wisely suspect that the impact on all of our lives of such dissimulated hidden Blood Oaths above and against any other oath we may know of or have witnessed, will cause their power to be exercised for other purposes and agendas alien to the public good.

Also, they pursue a "cult of Death" within a Secret Society which was brought over from Germany to the United States by William Huntington Russell, cousin of the opium trafficking Czar, and Alphonso Taft, appropriately United States Secretary of War as well as father of United States President William Howard Taft.

The China Trade and The Opium Wars

You will note that while groups involved in International Drug Trafficking were present at the founding of Skull & Bones, this has been an enduring tradition of that organization with its current representative pursuing this same trade recently as official head of the CIA and still today as unofficial boss of the George Bush Center for Intelligence.

George Herbert Walker Bush runs drugs for the Skull & Bones Genocide Agenda

Book Excerpt: The Legend of Skull and Bones

"Sometime in the early 1830s, a Yale student named William H. Russell - the future valedictorian of the class of 1833 - traveled to Germany to study for a year. Russell came from an inordinately wealthy family that ran one of the United States' most despicable business organizations of the nineteenth century: Russell and Company, an opium empire. Russell would later become a member of the Connecticut State Legislature, a General in the Connecticut National Guard, and the founder of the Collegiate and Commercial Institute in New Haven. While in Germany, Russell befriended the leader of an insidious German secret society that hailed the death.s head as its logo. Russell soon became caught up in this group, itself a sinister outgrowth of the notorious eighteenth century society of the Illuminati."

"When Russell returned to the U.S., he found an atmosphere so anti-Masonic that even his beloved Phi Beta Kappa, the honor society, had been unceremoniously stripped of its secrecy. Incensed, Russell rounded up a group of the most promising students in his class - including Alphonso Taft, the future Secretary of War, Attorney General, Minister to Austria, Ambassador to Russia, and father of future President William Howard Taft - and out of vengeance constructed the most powerful secret society the United States has ever known..."

"...As soon as initiates are allowed into the "tomb," a dark, windowless crypt in New Haven with a roof that serves as a landing pad for the society's private helicopter, they are sworn to silence and told they must forever deny that they are members of this organization. During initiation, which involves ritualistic psychological conditioning, the juniors wrestle in mud and are physically beaten - this stage of the ceremony represents their "death" to the world as they have known it. They then lie naked in coffins, masturbate, and reveal to the society their innermost sexual secrets. After this cleansing, the Bonesmen give the initiates robes to represent their new identities as individuals with a higher purpose. The society anoints the initiate with a new name, symbolizing his rebirth and re-christening as Knight X, a member of The Order. It is during this initiation that the new members are introduced to the artifacts in the tomb, among them Nazi memorabilia - including a set of Hitler's silverware - dozens of skulls, and an assortment of decorative tchochkes: coffins, skeletons, and innards. They are also introduced to "the Bones whore," the tomb's only full-time resident, who helps to ensure that the Bonesmen leave the tomb more mature than when they entered."

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It is not exactly an innocuous group of college buddies, with small dues paid in to cover the expenses of meetings and occasional parties, as we learn from the above source: "The influence of the cabal begins at Yale, where Skull and Bones has appropriated university funds for its own use, leaving the school virtually impoverished. Skull and Bones. corporate shell, the Russell Trust Association, owns nearly all of the university's real estate, as well as most of the land in Connecticut." This secret society also draws considerable additional wealth by requiring all members to pay 10% of their Estate to Skull & Bones. Given that they draw their members from among the heirs to the United States' greatest fortunes, it can be assessed that this secret society wields a sizable percentage of the wealth of the nation.

In itself that a Secret Society with such restricted membership, a hidden agenda and access to the most influential instances of a nation is already of concern, but not necessarily evidence of any wrongdoing. But that a great proportion of the wealth of the United States be dedicated to DEATH and to the Goddess Eulogia in reference to the pronouncement of a Funeral Eulogy is somewhat more alarming. It is this Death Cult that we shall examine, especially as it might pertain the the Clone Conspiracy. For it seems extremely unlikely that an Illuminati power center such as this Death Sect would be unaware of the systematic cloning of Political Leaders or high profile celebrities.

First we will examine what clues there are to explain some of this group's implication in some of the most detestable aspects of contemporary society and plans to dominate the world in ways too evil to contemplate without overwhelming evidence forcing us to open our eyes.

Death carries with it multiple implications. One is our own mortality as individuals, something which has not to our knowledge been successfully addressed by Skull & Bones for their members unless unknown to us they have succeeded in transferring the souls or minds of their members into replacement bodies. Another is the administration of death, either by assassination, or by programmed termination of life. This is possibly where the Secret Order of Death 322 Skull & Bones is possibly more involved that we may suspect in directing the hand of Death and in so doing robbing destiny of the hand of fate.

Bonesmen are behind or involved with the main protagonists of orchestrated and engineered death, by enforcing lasting Third World poverty using World Bank and IMF draconian conditions of exponential debt. They are also at the center of the pharmaceutical industry which makes access to medication subject to wealth, and they direct many multinational corporations which propagate or encourage pathologies by way of toxic substances in industrial products or food processing additives. They are also active promoters of the industries of death, namely the weapons manufacturers and international arms trade, ensuring that target populations receive sufficient munitions delivered to rival factions in order to at minimum keep their populations in check or potentially lead to genocide.

When we consider their involvement with Death, as a selective purge or culling of populations, we must consider that this is simply an extension of the parallel governing logic of the Illuminati, the furthering of their own kind, those of Blue Bloodlines, those with the "chosen" genetic heritage. This has been demonstrated by their espousal and promotion of the Eugenics movement in the United States which so inspired Adolf Hitler that he promptly emulated them adding racially discriminatory genetic profiling to plans to exterminate entire branches of humanity to make way for the SUPER RACE.

It is therefore essential to fully understand the hard and true connection between the Nazi Final Solution and the will of the Illuminati Order of Death, that humanity be on the one hand selectively destroyed to purify its gene pool, and on the other hand that a New Race of Super Men be created using genetic engineering and cloning technology. This is also why the monstrous Nazi genetic experiments on twins in concentration camps were so seamlessly transferred to the United States during the final months of World War II to be continued by the CIA and newly formed "black operations" branches of the Pentagon.

It has become common knowledge, through court records and government documents, that the father and grandfather of two United States Presidents - all three being members of Skull & Bones - financed the military buildup of Nazi Germany and even continued to fund Hitler when the USA was at war with Germany. The charges for High Treason were however later dropped, presumably thanks to intervention by other Skull & Bones members. Support for Hitler was also support for his Final Solution, the Death of us and our replacement with a newly cloned and genetically improved Master Race. This is the hidden face of the Nazi quest for racial purity, one inspired by the American Illuminati obsession with eugenics project to engineer a new species to replace mankind administered by Skull & Bones.

A MUST READ: The Bush Crime Family: Three Generations of Treason


"Prescott Bush was a firm believer in eugenics, (the study of genetic improvement through selecting parents, or racial superiority) which was very common among the influential families at the start of the twentieth century... of course we are all more familiar with the eugenics 'studies' done by the Nazis. William E. Dodd, U.S. Ambassador to Germany in 1937 said, '... I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi Regime.' Which 'ruling families' was he referring to? Well, Old Prescott was convicted by the U.S. government under the Trading With The Enemy Act in 1942 and fined one million dollars. Brown Brothers Harriman's affiliate Union Bank- of which Prescott was director- invested huge sums of money into Thyssen Steel, the backbone of Nazi steel production."

..."John Hinckley Jr.'s family donated substantial amounts of money to Bush during the 1980 primaries when he ran for President... Neil Bush admitted this. Coincidence? On March 31st The Houston Post ran a story that read, 'Scott Hinckley, the brother of John Hinckley Jr., who is charged with shooting President Reagan and three others, was to have been a dinner guest Tuesday night at the home of Neil Bush, son of Vice President George Bush, The Houston Chronicle has learned.' As if this weren't enough evidence, Neil and John Hinckley both were proven to have lived in Lubbock, Texas in 1978... how many sons of energy barons just happened to live in that town? (It's appropriate to mention that Neil was implicated in the Silverado Savings and Loan scandal.) As the final touch to this surreal scenario, Bush, as leader of the cabinet, came to the decision that this was not part of a domestic conspiracy! It's just like Janet Reno's investigation of wrongdoings at Waco, when she was in charge of the murders committed there! Are we to believe that the Bush family was close with the bin Ladens and the Hinckleys and that both families had a rogue member whose violent acts just happened to help advance the political careers of Bushes? "

Allen Dulles, The Nazis and the CIA

While the Dulles brothers weren't Skull & Bones they were the next best thing: Nazi 5th Columnists infiltrating the USA. They helped Prescott Bush bankroll Hitler's War of Conquest and genocidal project, and they imported the very worst Nazis into the USA after WWII and founded the CIA with the team and personal oversight of Reinhard Gehlen in charge of Hitler's Abwehr Military Intelligence. Allen Dulles then hired as Deputy a member of Skull & Bones, Richard Bissell Jr. Director for CIA Operations Planning.

Richard M. Bissel Jr. in Wikipedia

But Kennedy discovered just how serious the situation was, with these "Illuminazis" supplanting the national sovereignty of the United States of America. The following video quotes John F. Kennedy stating that these Bloodlines have "a Collective Death Wish for the World". Given the key role given to their Order of Death in bringing this about, we can only note that his observation was very likely accurate, and his opposition to the Order of Death, for example by firing Allen Dulles and his Skull & Bones sidekick.

Bush Sr. Connection with JFK Assassination

How the Order of Death makes Presidents

JFK Assassination Coordinator standing in front of Dallas Book Depository

CIA henchman George H.W. Bush administered 'Order of Death' by execution

Prevalence of US Illuminati Bloodlines

This brings us right back to the Skull & Bones TOMB. Why is it a tomb? Because it symbolized Death? Yes, but also because this Secret Society beyond carrying out the plan to KILL selectively and massively major portions of the human population - JUST LIKE A TOMB - also preserves the bodily remains and DNA of those who are DEAD.

Tasked with their eugenics Mission of Death as of the year 1832, Skull & Bones may well be behind the United States genocidal policies which led to the nearly full extermination of the great Native American Indian Nations. Is this why they dug up the remains of one of the most symbolic of the Peoples which they decimated?

CNN Newscast: Prescott Bush Stole Geronimo Skull n Bones?

I therefore propose the following: Skull & Bones has taken on the mission of organizing the DEATH of those they no longer wish to live on Earth. Skull & Bones has also taken on the mission of collecting the DNA of previously deceased Bloodlines - storing these remains in their Tomb or in associated laboratory cold storage facilites - and using them for engineering PROTOTYPE CLONES and also to reproduce exact replicas of Bloodline members from the past to be imposed to us as Leaders. We can also assume that part of their plan is to provide themselves with either Identical replacement bodies, or... more likely... with NEW & IMPROVED genetically engineered replacement bodies which they judge superior to their original physical envelope.

There is therefore considerable circumstantial evidence that Skull & Bones is deeply involved in the Clone Conspiracy. They have controlled the CIA for many decades, and the CIA is the most likely agency suspected as having at minimum covered up but far more likely the one orchestrating the murder and replacement of key individuals in leadership positions by Clones of themselves, and also of producing Cloned "stealth Royals" who are later moved into power by social board games. The CIA is also known for running the International Drug Trafficking and Money Laundering Schemes which funnel tremendous sums of money into their Black Operations of which the Clone Conspiracy is a key component.

Whether there is involvement of an Inner Earth or Extraterrestrial group or NOT, one thing is sure: Skull & Bones not just a small college fraternity group of pranksters. It is deeply involved in promoting mass genocide of human populations and also in the production of Cloned Leaders. Bonesmen are also planning the replacement of the entire human race by a bio-engineered downgraded sub-race of Slaves obeying a genetically enhanced Bloodline Master Race.

Fortunately, we know who at least some of these people are, thanks to the now public lists of those involved in Skull & Bones. This brings us one step closer to unraveling the plot to murder and bio-engineer all of humanity, and one step closer to stopping them by whatever means necessary from continuing to commit their heinous crimes.


posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 04:15 PM

This isn't actually an update but rather a further description of the encounter, several years after it happened. I gave it to another ATS member who asked me for details.

Hello, your reptilian encounter is interesting. Are you absolutely positive it was a reptilian entity or variations thereof?

"I can only say what I experienced. First I didn't imagine for a second that this wasn't one very very tall guy. Only once I realized that the trees looked like shrubs did it become inescapable that this couldn't be a person."

"I still wasn't about to think it was reptilian because I was dead certain that such beings were stupid and very ridiculous inventions of people who had no respect for our intelligence."

"I was puzzled by the hood, because it was drawn low preventing me to see his face from afar. I could notice the strangely shape hump on his back. As a youngster I had seen hunchbacks and noticed that their hump was fairly low and usually to one side. This hump not only was perched high up under the hooded sweatshirt, but was peaked at the top near the neck and not lower down as might be expected."

"It was only later that I considered that it might have been folded up wings, because at that time it just seems unexplainable. Examining his silhouette I marveled at ho sculpted it was with incredibly broad shoulders tapering at a rapid angle to a much thinner waist. What a prototypical athlete I thought, but then I caught a glimpse of his eyes. This lasted about 15 seconds, during which I tried to define what I was seeing."

"His gaze was intense but his egg-sized eyes were huge, and emitted a glowing red light, not as sharp as a car's tail light but deeper and darker. I couldn't understand how eyes could emit light or glow like this and it was then that I realized this wasn't even remotely human. I couldn't detect any separation between an iris and the orbit, it was uniformly glowing."

"Far from being afraid I was intrigued and really wanted to know who and what this was. So I started out in its direction intending to approach him. Then a streetlight highlighted his face and I saw around his eyes framed by the hood his cheeks and brow were large leathery segments in many beautiful hues of dark brown, dark green and dark red blended in muted shades."

"What prevented me from continuing on my path was not his appearance but sensing what was emanating from his very intense energy. Also, getting closer I realized the power of his stride which was long and rapid with a step motion very different from our own, he would only lift his rear foot once the front foot had landed, while his upper body remained immobile his arms moving at his sides a bit less than our own at a similar pace."

"He was projecting his senses noticeable by a probing energy which spread out beyond me, and I feared being detected as his intentions did not seem peaceable. My mind was impressed by images of him going to an apartment in a nearby neighborhood and goring several people who had come there out of curiosity to see or meet him. The scene was very vivid with picture and sound as if I had been taken into the room where it had taken place. I noted that he seemed to be replaying this scene in his mind and relished the horror and torment which had seized his victims when partially eaten alive."

"This is when my legs carried me against my will to a side street, where planted in front of a wall I tried to remain undetected by focusing on the nothingness of the wall's features and blankness. I stayed there until he had passed and even waited some minutes before daring venture out to the main road and meekly check if he was to be seen in the distance. He was gone and I high tailed it back home very shaken up as you can imagine."

"That's about all I can add to the story. Since I've wondered if this was some sort of engineered entity using genetic experimentation, but I don't think that we could readily invent something so horrid and vicious even if we tried hard. It was beyond the imagination, but who knows? It seemed a lot worse than the semi human Devil of myth."

"I hope this gives you some insight, and that someday I will find out how such a being could be walking the streets in brand new factory made Earth clothing without seeming in the least disturbed by any worldly authorities."

Here is an earlier post on this encounter for perspective:

Originally posted by Getsmart

"My sighting wasn't at all scary until my body started moving me very swiftly, and when I resisted it really started sending me very strong signals. I was scared by this more than by the creature, but then realized that if it was happening it was because of something having to do with that creature. So then I realized that I should have been scared instead of recklessly curious. My curiosity did nonetheless enable me to get a pretty good look at him. I only wish there was a way to replay what is a very vivid memory of that sighting in mental video form. His size was the first mind blower."

"The second was his very strange way of walking, with his hind leg lurching forward and all his upper body remaining totally steady and upright without bobbing up and down as we do when we walk."

"The third in order of strangeness was his exaggerate tapered waist and very broad shoulders forming a triangle."

"Forth his eyes, then struck me with their dark red glow, and I realized that this thing was alive, was not from this world (as I've come to know our world) and was an entirely different being to be reckoned with and not just an odd assortment of unusual physical characteristics I had never before seen."

"Fifth, his back bulge gave me a nagging feeling of discomfort, because I kept on staring at that bump and it was very high, almost reaching above the shoulders. It wasn't some sort of back pack because it was so high on his back. It was not a bump at an ordinarily low position, as with hunch backs who have one between their shoulder blades. It actually peaked at its higher part, near the top of his shoulders, and sloped down more gently from its peak to disappear about one quarter of the way down his back."

"Sixth in importance was his thick leathery brownish green scaly skin and his sloping facial shape, which you would ordinarily expect to be the most revealing factor of oddity. This was just a surface feature and didn't define his strangeness nearly as much as the rest of the differences."

"This being wasn't human, far from it. I can't say what or who it was, other than his seeming to be a willful composed individual, not some remote controlled drone. He knew where he was going and was absorbed in his thoughts as well as tuned into what was going on around him."

"I cannot imagine their resilience in combat. Only that I felt that I didn't stand more of a chance than a sparrow against a mountain lion. Weapons and technology can of course change that power discrepancy, but this being had something which really did start to scare me out of my wits when I sensed it: I felt that it could read my mind and see where I was and observe my thoughts and perceptions. That is one heck of a competitive advantage. The only way I would imagine that you could fight against them effectively, without them second guessing your attack plans, would be to send programmed soldiers who don't know what they're about to do until it happens."

"Regarding their physical strength and prowess, the one I saw may not be representative of the others. Most accounts I have since read speak of reptilians who are somewhat smaller than this one, and I may have seen one of the warrior caste some speak of, if such entities do in fact exist. All I know is the one I saw. His size was already several men in volume and weight. Plus, he had a musculature which was far more developed than any body builder I have ever seen. This made me wonder if he hadn't been genetically engineered because how could nature make such a freak?"

"While looking at him and feeling totally powerless, I asked myself that very same question. It made sense, because he didn't seem to be a friendly sort of chap. He was "walking intimidation" and probably far worse if you got to know him. I gaged, sensing his physical strength during his stride and his powerful demeanor and physique, that even 40 men would be brushed aside and pulverized without excessive effort. Ask yourself, how many 5 year old kids would it take to defeat you? Especially if you are a trained martial arts expert? It was pretty much the same contrast with one of our regular Marines."

"Regarding their resistance to weaponry, it's anyone's guess. Maybe they are even more vulnerable to gunfire than we are, or maybe they are hurt less by it? But the one I saw didn't look in the least worried about any attention he could garner from his height, or about an possible encounter with a police patrol. I cannot explain it. Other than imagine he was assured of complicities among law enforcement."

"He was like a triple sized warrior type, with large red glowing eyes and ten times the physical power of anything we can even imagine, not to mention not needing to use weapons given such mental and physical superiority. I'm not a slouch, when it comes to logic or even abstract thinking, but I sensed that I was a mental dwarf next to him. He seemed distinctly higher in the evolutionary scale, if there is such a thing. We are the sub-specious, and they are the Lion King. That pretty much says it all, and maybe better explains the betrayal and complicity of those in power behind the political scene and the surrender of our military."

The reason that these sightings are posted here in this thread is because I genuinely wondered if there might be some unknown relation between my exposure of what certainly looks like a strange phenomena, and might be an actual conspiracy to Clone and Possess people, and this 'Reptilian' species? Was it there at that time because I was due to return in the deep of night? Was I to be its dessert after the earlier bloodfest? Who knows, and I'm glad I never found out.

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posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 08:06 PM
Most of the "lookalikes" posted in this thread look absolutely nothing like each other; Helen Keller would be able to tell them all apart. It's well known that leaders have lookalikes for security reasons. I, also, suspect figureheads have and are replaced with doppelgangers in the events of their deaths or illnesses or even rebellions against orders. Posting all these pictures of people who don't resemble one another in the slightest and calling them clones seems to be an effort to discredit the proven reality of stand-ins.

posted on Dec, 8 2010 @ 08:53 PM

Originally posted by thunderlady
Most of the "lookalikes" posted in this thread look absolutely nothing like each other; Helen Keller would be able to tell them all apart. It's well known that leaders have lookalikes for security reasons. I, also, suspect figureheads have and are replaced with doppelgangers in the events of their deaths or illnesses or even rebellions against orders. Posting all these pictures of people who don't resemble one another in the slightest and calling them clones seems to be an effort to discredit the proven reality of stand-ins.


Thank you for your thundering authoritative comment. By the way, by what authority do you state that they look absolutely nothing like each other? Or was that just a poorly worded statement of opinion? For those who may not know, Helen Keller was deaf and blind and nonetheless became a writer and public speaker pioneer for the rights of impaired people. Using her blindness as an example to discredit this thread shows your utter lack of tact and absence of respect for this admirable person. While you are of course entitled to your opinion, which you are encouraged to retain for the rest of your existence, I do take exception to your accusation that I seek to discredit the reality of the use of doubles by governments or power groups. Actually, and this is the first time I have made such a statement despite many far more serious and heinous attacks in other threads, I will venture to question the sincerity of your post.


posted on Dec, 9 2010 @ 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Getsmart

Thank you for your thundering authoritative comment. By the way, by what authority do you state that they look absolutely nothing like each other? Or was that just a poorly worded statement of opinion? For those who may not know, Helen Keller was deaf and blind and nonetheless became a writer and public speaker pioneer for the rights of impaired people. Using her blindness as an example to discredit this thread shows your utter lack of tact and absence of respect for this admirable person. While you are of course entitled to your opinion, which you are encouraged to retain for the rest of your existence, I do take exception to your accusation that I seek to discredit the reality of the use of doubles by governments or power groups. Actually, and this is the first time I have made such a statement despite many far more serious and heinous attacks in other threads, I will venture to question the sincerity of your post.


Touchy, aren't you? My "authority", as you've chosen to put it, comes from having both a working brain and a pair of eyes which are, also, fully functional. Your case examples do not resemble each other and, as I said, the effort to ludicrously pretend they do casts doubt on the very real fact of stand-ins being used for Persons of Import in much the same way the concept of Lizard People makes a joke of the truth of the NWO movement and the reality of its players having a nefarious agenda.
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posted on Dec, 10 2010 @ 01:27 AM
Thanks for being the first Debunker in this thread since it started a very long time ago. This is something which I very much appreciate, for one of two reasons. Either it means that this thread has unearthed a vital truth which needs to be denied by extending us the courtesy of your heckling, or that it has become more widely noticed and therefore now has a potential for awakening others. This is a Conspiracy website, unless your eyesight also denies that, and we are also in its Highly Speculative section, Skunk Works.

Since this thread is useless to you, as you consider it to be totally unfounded, thanks then for letting those of us who find interesting ideas to explore here do so without further caustic interference on your behalf. You will surely find life more fulfilling and constructive pursuing things you think are real and not illusory.

Otherwise you may give the impression that either you are voluntarily disingenuous or else have fallen victim to a failure on my behalf to better explain how these images are to be compared: the prior photo comparisons do not apply at random across all the different posts in this thread, they are usually paired two individuals at a time, compared each time in turn in separate instances. Once compared, those individuals are no longer compared to the other individuals discussed in this thread in what are to be understood to be separate and independent photo comparisons. To clarify in hopes you will better understand, I will illustrate with an example. Let us say we observe how David Rockefeller may have been Cloned from the founder of the Medici Bank, and that Hitler might have been cloned from Frederik II of Prussia. This would not mean that David Rockefeller is a Clone of Hitler. They would obviously look nothing alike.

Also, you may not have very carefully read the text of this thread , only lazily glancing at a few pictures and locking down your mind into rejection. It is stated on several occasions that it is admittedly very difficult to compare emulsion or digital photographic portraits taken through camera lens distortions with the very different renditions of painted portraits, which are distorted rather by artistic sensitivity and pictorial style, not counting the conventional doctoring of painted portraits by the artists to more favorably represent the sitter who happens to be their client, using chosen poses, adjusted lighting and distorting proportions to diminish aesthetic flaws or enhance their better traits.

You may wonder why, when confronted to such a difficulty of comparing pictorial representations from such different sources, I proceeded nonetheless? It is because years of experience authenticating attributions of sitters in portrait paintings lends me a certain skill in ascertaining, usually from a number of multiple sources ranging from drawings, engravings, period or historical paintings as well as written descriptions, how a personage probably actually looked. Furthermore, given that cloning is dependent upon many environmental conditions allowances must be made for differences in cartilage and eye socket placement, making identification of a clone more reliant on structural components of facial features than on the exogenous growth of soft tissues: Clones are not identical.

From your disrespectful tone and mocking rhetoric, you must have arrived at your categorical conclusions with far greater experience of facial recognition and an established practice of physiognomy. And of course you have the trained ability to make abstraction of period clothing and settings as well as various styles of pictorial rendering. Unless you are like many people, seldom capable of identifying similarities unless each image is totally conform in almost all respects if not fully identical?

This thread stated numerous times that it was based upon speculation that what the Original Poster found to be noteworthy physical resemblances might be due to an organized Human Cloning Program called the Clone Conspiracy. I never claimed to have forensic evidence of the existence of any Clones. This has been a theoretical proposition according to which Human Clones might exist beyond what the mainstream press and official science report openly, that such Clones might be produced and used to replace individuals, and that some of these individuals may well be a large part of our leadership class.

Various hypotheses have been considered to validate of falsify this proposition, and I am not certain of anything yet at this time. I am not forcing any of my observations on anyone. People are free to read, browse, question or query and even to leave this thread without a second thought if they find it supercilious or too eccentric.

However I do find that there is a significant body of evidence which cannot be positively explained by the ruling paradigms and which lends itself therefore to speculation. This is why I continue to post these observations in this highly speculative section of ATS. Here is a case in point.

Android David Rockefeller's Software Bug at the Bilderberg

This is very different from a normal video where people lose balance, the above video shows that he apparently does not know that on an escalator, once you've stepped onto the stairs you need to also move your second leg onto the escalator too. This is also noticeable by the way he instantly straightens up into a seated position once the glitch ends. Might it be due to electronic interference? I think this is a Cloned body used by some form of artificial intelligence or possibly Alien remote control. This is for no other reason that the Agenda of this individual who has been working to cull the human population and make room for nature, with man giving way to make room also for any other species which cares to take ownership of Earth.

David Rockefeller's Population Control Agenda

posted on Dec, 25 2010 @ 06:02 AM

Just so that you know, given my militant opposition to the Illuminati Satanists, I have escaped several attempts on my life, and have received warnings posted on the building where I live as well as one found yesterday on the windshield of my car. So if I no longer post here, you can conclude what you may, but in all likelihood there are those who would want my voice silenced. That painted 666 Illuminati Pyramid preceded an attack by a Man in Black who dowsed me with anthrax, requiring treatment by a leading toxicology institute. We shall see whether this latest similar warning bears any significance. Hopefully not, or that this posting will deter them.

Earlier painted warning

This week's snow carved warning

So if you don't hear from me again you'll know what is up and draw your own conclusion as to the relevance of my posts.


posted on Feb, 8 2011 @ 12:49 AM
After some time away from this thread, mostly investigating other areas, I return to again bring some new information to this subject. It starts with the possible Cloning a former member of Royalty by Aliens arriving to Earth from the sky. To introduce this subject, here is a video clip featuring the well known film director and actor Orson Wells who more than a quarter of a century ago brought this to our attention. Here are some highlights from A Man Who Saw Tomorrow.

Nostradamus: "Aliens return in 1999 to unleash War and Terror and CLONE

Who exactly is this King of Terror who "brought back to life" which means in today's lay language "CLONED" the King of the Mongols? Possibly an Alien similar to the oh so very dreadful one I had the dishonor to see.

Here is the text in French:

Dans l'année du nouveau siècle et neuf mois,
Du ciel viendra un grand roi de terreur...
Le ciel brûlera à quarante-cinq degrés.Ï Le feu approche la grande nouvelle ville...
Dans la ville d'York, il y aura un grand effondrement,
Deux frères jumeaux déchirés par le chaos
Tandis que la forteresse tombe le grand chef succombera
La troisième grande guerre commencera quand la grande ville brûlera.

That is NOT old French but modern French. There are therefore NOT his original verses. Also it isn't in his usual "quatrain" four step rhymes. It was apparently translated into French from English from a version which would resemble this:

In the year of the new century and nine months,
From the sky will come a great king of terror...
The sky will burn at 45 degrees. The fire approaches the great new city...
In the city of York, there will be a great collapse,
Two twin brothers torn by chaos
While the fortress falls a great leader will succumb
The third great war will start when the great city burns.

However there did exist an old version of this text which deserves to be examined. Quatrin X.72:

"L’an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois
Du ciel viendra grand Roy deffrayeur
Resusciter le grand Roy d’Angolmois.
Avant après Mars régner par bonheur."

In year one thousand nine hundred ninety-nine and nine months
From the sky will come great King of fright
Resuscitate the great King of Angolmois
Before after Mars/March to rule with happiness.

The Roy deffrayeur in medieval France may have referred to the Grim Reaper, represented as an old man carrying a sickle, it also could symbolize the planet Saturn which would be in a particular aspect to Mars in the sky at that time.

«Angolmois» is the name in old French of the province surrounding the city of Angoulême 120 km North-East of Bordeaux and 120 km East-South-East of la Rochelle. The heirs to the throne of France are also the Ducs of Angoulême. Or it might have to do with the King who granted Angoulême its independence, John Lackland the younger brother of Richard the Lionhearted. This king was translated in the above video to refer to the King of the Mongols, interpreting this as an oriental war.

Mars can be either the planet Mars, the God of War Mars or the month of March in French. Before after is cryptic which has many quite upset as in general Nostradamus' predictions only were intelligible to the initiates who had the codes to understand their meaning. It is obviously meant to give information to those in the know and not the general public, the stuff secret societies are made of and which gives all its meaning to "Hermetic Knowledge" and the impenetrable mysteries.

Regardless of the meaning of this prophecy, and whoever each of the Kings may be, I happen to find it interesting that we remark a double occurrence in this verse. First the arrival from the Sky of a frightening King. Second that he would then resuscitate a King. How can you resuscitate a King unless he is already dead. And how better than by Cloning him?

Once again, many will agree that I'm stretching things quite a bit:

ancient cryptic prophecy + interpretation = Alien Cloning of Royals


posted on Mar, 6 2011 @ 09:36 PM
reply to post by Getsmart

Now I can see imposter's, someone who has the same body and facial features then the rest is covered with plastic surgery. Clones, yeah theses guys were born before PCs were ever thought about so nope.

Now what I really think is happening is the group of evil Watchers that Satan controls is really doing the dirty work for the most part. Anyone who they can not easily get to worship them and play ball gets killed and they easily copy them as the Watchers can take any form they want. They are normally 7-9 feet tall Reptilian looking Gods with human like features, two arms and legs. They walk upright and all. They have out of this world strength and can communicate telepathically.

posted on Mar, 8 2011 @ 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Now I can see imposter's, someone who has the same body and facial features then the rest is covered with plastic surgery. Clones, yeah theses guys were born before PCs were ever thought about so nope.

Hi Sky Watcher,

I can see where you're getting at. I cannot attest to exactly what is going on with the cloning of power yielding leaders and influential celebrities. However something is up, whatever it is we shall discover one day. Here is the argument in favor of there being an actual use of cloning, whether done by replicating DNA in a test tube or by engineering humans through controlled breeding as has been underway for some years.

After all, King Charles I of England is known for his dog breeding, as was John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough - his main General who won the Spanish War and defeated Louis the 14th - ancestor of Winston Churchill. He is known for having designed the "Blenheim" breed of dog named after his home Blenheim Palace. The ruling Elite have been breeding everything from roses to horses, always seeking to improve the species. Given that they perceive us as their livestock, mere cattle or sheeple, nothing could stop them form breeding us similarly, using the old fashioned techniques or better yet thanks to genetic engineering.

Impostors, doubles, decoys, imitators, phonies, impersonators have existed throughout human history and have been used innumerable times as substitutes for people in high positions of power or influence. This is extensively documented and doesn't need a thread in a conspiracy forum, given that it is part of the "KNOWN" components of conspiracies since times immemorial.

Originally posted by Sky watcher

Now what I really think is happening is the group of evil Watchers that Satan controls is really doing the dirty work for the most part. Anyone who they can not easily get to worship them and play ball gets killed and they easily copy them as the Watchers can take any form they want. They are normally 7-9 feet tall Reptilian looking Gods with human like features, two arms and legs. They walk upright and all. They have out of this world strength and can communicate telepathically.

This happens to be something which I can possibly better understand than most people, having myself encountered in person such a 9 foot tall entity - see my "reptilian sighting" posts. So I have no problem understanding that some theories about these beings could be possible, but the fact I know that they exist doesn't make any theory about them necessarily true.

I actually find it very hard to believe - being quite intuitive myself and sensitive to thought energy - that entities such as the one I witnessed could successfully go "stealth" disguised by holographic or other means and pass themselves off as regular humans. While I concur that it is indeed possible that NON HUMAN entities might be among us, passing themselves off as human earthlings, I seriously doubt that it could be actual humongous reptoids who assume this role - even if shapeshifting could be confirmed as a genuinely real phenomenon. Their electromagnetic emanations, at least in the instance I perceived, are far too strong to be ignored.

So I will reserve my judgment "that anyone against THEM gets killed and replicated" because although I definitely oppose them actively I still haven't gotten such a horrid death and replacement treatment myself - unless your comment only alluded to people of some significance whom it might bring some benefit to replace. On that front I am fortunate to only be an opponent in the sidelines, one without any personal power or noteworthy social status or influence other than that produced by my mind. Therefore taking over my insignificant social position and personal identity without having the "mind component" of power would likely bring more trouble than benefit.



posted on Mar, 21 2011 @ 11:30 PM
reply to post by Getsmart

Why does everyone assume there is only one end result of extreme stressor's + certain genetic predispositions?

Cause it wouldn't go just one way. Sure the mind can fragment, but it can also submerge itself(conscious into subconscious) or shield itself(emotional detachment).

Granted the first and last option remove people as threats, but the middle one can create an even greater threat for those who would seek fragmentation for puppets or emotional detachment for useful drones.

evil necro! Srry didn't realize this was an old thread..
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