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The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones

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posted on Sep, 20 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

That way they'd be better able to travel in hostile environments and to take risks which we wouldn't in a more precious and unique body which takes considerable time to "grow" in natural conditions.

If you're an "alien" from another planet &/or another dimension, wouldn't it be easier to mentally project your consciousness (akin to remote viewing) into a body that can live under these conditions? It would certainly be faster than traveling over vast distances. Even if you had access to a stargate, what if oxygen is poisonous to you? Or what if you don't walk on land in your natural state?


Maybe all people on Earth are concurrently Aliens, simultaneously existing at the same time elsewhere much like in the movie The Matrix? Most of us may have taken on standard human bodies born through natural birthing while a few are here in more controlled conditions similarly to what can be seen in the movie Avatar.

I think there are definitely some people running around who are actually aliens. They are posing as humans for different reasons. The good guys are probably trying to influence people towards the Light. The bad guys maybe doing the opposite. But yeah, if something like remote viewing is going on like in Avatar or the Matrix, then those beings are existing in at least 2 places at once. This scenario explains psychic ability, IMO.


If an Alien Gray can die and rapidly return with full memories and consciousness in a similar Alien Gray form, we can assume that either they have some magical mystical power which is beyond description or understanding, or that they are not akin to us in terms of birthing or reincarnation of souls and/or mind consciousness.

Most of the ET souls seem to forget who they are & where they come from. It might be a defense mechanism so they don't go blabbing to the wrong people what their mission is. It could also be a function of the density. This reality could be likened to pea soup. It's thick & heavy & hard to see in.




So in a sense you can say that we all are clones,


Oh, I don't know. I think there may well be humans indigenous to this planet & this dimension.




posted on Sep, 23 2010 @ 05:33 AM
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Hi Someotherguy,


Thanks for your comments which are helpful, especially as it better explains the use of human clones as Hosts for Alien entities: I hadn't thought of them being able to thus better adapt to our environment, even if they had no desire to infiltrate and subvert our society posing as humans.



Originally posted by someotherguy
If you're an "alien" from another planet &/or another dimension, wouldn't it be easier to mentally project your consciousness (akin to remote viewing) into a body that can live under these conditions? It would certainly be faster than traveling over vast distances. Even if you had access to a stargate, what if oxygen is poisonous to you? Or what if you don't walk on land in your natural state?



This however does not account for those who have subverted such methods for their own purposes, several stages beyond the rather benign infiltration seen in Avatar. In order to operate this, apparently a malevolent race of Reptoids such as the entity which I witnessed have bred specific hybrids who serve this purpose as our Royal lineages as well as their Illuminati brethren. These can be either naturally bred and "tweaked" by abductions to make them perfectly compatible Hosts for Alien Possession, or they may also be Cloned such as the individuals we have referenced in this thread. I wish to thank you for the link provided in a different venue to the following interview of Bill Deagle who mentions this right at the beginning of this segment:






Originally posted by someotherguy
I think there are definitely some people running around who are actually aliens. They are posing as humans for different reasons. The good guys are probably trying to influence people towards the Light. The bad guys maybe doing the opposite. But yeah, if something like remote viewing is going on like in Avatar or the Matrix, then those beings are existing in at least 2 places at once. This scenario explains psychic ability, IMO.



That is a very innovative interpretation of the Psychic Phenomenon. So rather than just existing within several dimensions, here on physical Earth and in some ethereal or astral plane, psychic people might have further insight due to being simultaneously alive at "home base" in their original physical world? This would grant them access to data not available to us about universal Akashic records or some other predictive technologies?



Originally posted by someotherguy
If an Alien Gray can die and rapidly return with full memories and consciousness in a similar Alien Gray form, we can assume that either they have some magical mystical power which is beyond description or understanding, or that they are not akin to us in terms of birthing or reincarnation of souls and/or mind consciousness.

Most of the ET souls seem to forget who they are & where they come from. It might be a defense mechanism so they don't go blabbing to the wrong people what their mission is. It could also be a function of the density. This reality could be likened to pea soup. It's thick & heavy & hard to see in.



I think that you're right about this when suggesting that ET souls forget when they incarnate as humans, embedded in our society through natural birthing. These might be called "long term missions" for higher souls coming down here slumming in our pea soup reality? That could from time to time educate and elevate us thanks to their help and inspiration? To be most effective they would need an unconscious sense of mission while at the same time living regular lives. There is, however, an entirely different sort of Alien Penetration of human society, using violent demonic possession, abduction and haunting (the movie The Fourth Kind comes to mind) and by way of Genetically engineered half breeds which we may call CLONED LEADERS.



Originally posted by someotherguy
Oh, I don't know. I think there may well be humans indigenous to this planet & this dimension.



Well there certainly are some regular Joe's who seem quite indigenous to planet Earth but most of us have probably been more or less tweaked genetically either in the very distant past, during recent generations, or during our own lifetime. It sure would be nice to finally get clarification about what goes on inside us genetically without such info being filtered and censored by the Scientific Community itself largely infiltrated and controlled by the Alien power structure's mantle of lies.


Thanks for the helpful insight.


GS


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posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 04:16 AM
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I shall be posting elements here from the other Clone Conspiracy thread as they pertain to Cloned Leaders and not to Cloned Stars and Celebrities. Here is a first item with its reply, the original entry can be found here:


Original Posting



Originally posted by Aeons
Oh, and since Alexander of Macedonia took over what is Iran this begs the question then.

Who is Ahmadinejad? Which Parthenian King is he?



Hi Aeons,


While I must admit not being overly fascinated by that person, it is pertinent to investigate this further. First, we may consider that he did not arrive innocently on to the political scene. Here is evidence that he was instrumental to Ayatollah Khomeini during the first conflicts with the USA after the Shah.


Photo shows Iran leader as '79 U.S. hostage taker


So we must consider if he happened into this by circumstance, or if the Ayatollah who was sponsored by Priory of Sion master French President Francois Mitterrand - also probably member of the Rose Cross given his instauration of the Rose as symbol of his Socialist Party - was also used to further the cause of the Clone Conspiracy? We have already earlier noted that Mitterrand's son was cloned from King of the Gauls Vercingetorix and his nephew from Roman Emperor Marius.


For this we can examine the following lineages in the history of the Persian Empire:


Persian Empire Timeline


Among these emerges a candidate as donor for Ahmadinejad's DNA:


Seleucus I Nicator


While there are a number of parameters which don't make for a perfect match, there are several others which give cause to ponder. Representations of leaders in those early days were Deified, and in former colonies may also have been somewhat Hellenised (artistic modifications of features to correspond to a Greek Ideal). For this reason a number of representations must be compared to photographs of the current potential Clone. Here are a few such comparisons.


Ahmadinejad and Selecius



Ahmadinejad and Selecius



Ahmadinejad and Selecius



What seem to match are the arcades above the eyes, the general skull shape, the chin and nose. However the nose on some of Seleucus' representations may have been Hellenised as well as his hairstyle. Eye size is smaller and Ahmadinejad's nose appears to have been broken making it somewhat more arched. The ears do have however a certain similarity, taking into account that the lighting in each photograph used in the comparison was different and that we are comparing a right ear to a left ear.


Ahmadinejad and Selecius ear comparison



Given that this comparison does not stem from any unconscious "inspiration" on my behalf bringing to light a resemblance, I cannot attest to the accuracy of this. However, given the Puppet-like behavior of Ahmadinejad we can only assume that he is not a normal individual but more likely either a mind controlled Clone or a Clone used as a Host for an Alien.



GS



posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 07:04 AM
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In addendum to a potential ALIEN Identity of Cloned Leaders in general, and in this instance namely of Ahmadinejad, is the following speech at the UN in full length which has a lengthy Religious rhetoric at its beginning which is reminiscent of his mentor Ayatollah Khomeini and which goes on at minute 10:25 to blaming rogue elements within the USA's Military and Intelligence Community for the 9/11 attacks:





Since the exit of the media circus of Ossama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein he has taken on single-handedly the role of the Arch Enemy of the Western World crystallizing antagonisms against the USA and directing aggression towards Christianity and any Occidental targets which the fanaticism mustered can utilize as strategic war-building ploys. This cannot be construed to be in the interest of any fraction of humanity which would be doomed by such a destructive conflict, yet it happens to go in the interest of any Alien presence which would plot to weaken humanity by prompting World War III, turning us against one another to decimate most of humanity with full fledge nuclear and biological war or their unwanted portion of humanity using selective contained military attacks to divide and conquer Earth.


Cloned Leaders have served an INHUMAN Agenda for Eons, which History can attest, and we must therfore be extremely wary of their initiatives and war mongering acts - especially when announced within the instances of the United Nations which has been reported by a number of insider whisleblowers to be a leading ALIEN initiated and controlled institution.



If these Cloned Leaders are wishing war on us, had we not rather wage war against them and their Alien string-pullers who perpetrate Crimes Against Humanity?


GS


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posted on Sep, 25 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Aeons
So if you think that Jean Sarkozy is Alexander the Great - and who ever his stylist is is doing a fantastic job of making him look like him - then Nicholas's harlot isn't the one that is interesting. His first wife is Marie-Dominique Culioli.



And Olympias, mother of Alexander of Macedonia.






Hi Aeons, and thanks for this very interesting contribution to the Clone Conspiracy!


Note: For reference, your original postings were in the Stars and Celebrity Clones Thread and given that their subject pertains to cloned political leaders I have therefore moved it into this discussion section as well as my replies.


There was something which always troubled me, it was the distinctly naturally blonde hair of Nicolas Sarkozy's first wife who was Corsican. Anyone who knows Corsica can realize that natural blondes are indeed a rarity on that Island, usually being recent arrivals from Scandinavia sailing in the whereabouts or indulging in its sandy beaches. I have never seen a 'local' with blonde hair, not to say that it doesn't exist, Marie-Dominique Culioli being one such exception.


It does cause one to wonder whether the mother of the Clone of Alexander the Great, married to the Clone of Ivan the Terrible, was not herself a Clone of Alexander's mother Olympia? Here she is with her two sons cloned Jean and his brother Pierre. You will note a medallion of Olympia encrusted in the image.


Marie Dominique Culioli with sons and Olympia



You will note that Olympia apparently had a broken nose, which is not the case of her Clone Marie-Dominique Culioli. Credit for this revelation is due to Aeons who first revealed it in the other Clone Conspiracy thread here:


Aoens' original posting


We will note an interesting CORSICAN CONNECTION to the Clone Conspiracy, and it can be readily questioned whether Napoleon Bonaparte was himself not a CLONE of another historical figure? In any case it is likely given his very unusual abilities, being able to dictate 7 letters at a time in different languages from his encampment while designing battle strategies, that he might have been an Avatar or Host for an Alien presence in human affairs? Our current legal systems and administrative structures closely reflect those he imposed and durably established.


We also note the Corsican connection t the Clone Conspiracy with a Corsican Air Force officer as the 'unofficial official father' of Cloned Colonel Gaddafi and now with an important addition of a cloned presidential wife. There is something additional which I noted during a visit to Corsica, it is that there is a key built in to one of their cities, which connects at least some Corsicans in official functions to the Illuminati and possibly also to ALIENS. Here is.the city in question, the Citadel of Bonifacio at the southern tip of the Island, facing the Northern coast of the Italian island of Sardinia near the notorious "billionaire's private islands".


Bonifacio viewed from the East



Bonifacio viewed from the South-East



This cliff-side Citadel is upon terrain quite similar to that found on the island of Malta, made famous by the Knights of Malta who are among the most powerful men on Earth. A number of those who claim that they along with the Vatican using the Jesuits are at the Top of the Illuminati Pyramid above the Council of 13 and the Committee of 300 claim that there are very deep underground tunnels going from the Island of Malta to beneath the Vatican where Reptilian Dracos give their orders to the Pope and the Jesuit General nicknamed the Black Pope.


Could it be possible that such an underground tunnel network might also extend to Corsica? Here is some uncovered evidence which gives cause to wonder. First there is a clue to a mystery - leading to a possible "cliffhanger" that has yet to be elucidated, this picture was taken directly in front of the Citadel of Bonifacio:


Bonifacio's Staircase of the King of Aragon


This Staircase has two competing Legends associated with it, both of which may well be false cover stories for a hidden truth. The first says that this staircase composed of 187 steps was carved out of the chalky cliffs in a single night during the siege of Alphonse the Magnanimous in the year 1420. A second legend has it that it was laboriously dug by Franciscan Monks over a lengthy duration in order to access a source of fresh water located near sea level. Both of these are unlikely to be accurate representations of fact. There is no evidence of the later while the former defies logistic plausibility.


Above this area, one can see in plain view, in one of the small town squares at the edge of the Citadel, several deep wells going down into the ground and which lead to unknown places. Some will say these were fresh water wells, which sounds surprising as situated directly above the sea. What purpose they served remains to be confirmed, and we may wonder given the shape of the protective covers as well as the insignia surmounting them - which are "hidden in plain sight".


Several of a series of Wells?



Pyramid shaped Capstones above the Pyramids



Close up of the ALIEN / ALL SEEING EYE insignia at the top of the Pyramids



Close up of Pre-Columbian Tall Alien Grey's head



Full View of Pre-Columbian drawing of Tall Alien Grey



Is it just a funny drawing glued on by passerby's to the captstone or would this be a Corsican sunglass wearing reference to an Alien group at the top of the Illuminati Hierarchy? It does happen to appear to have been placed on the capstone before it got corroded as can be seen in transparency and it happens to look somewhat like the face of the Tall Greys who are said to rule over the shorter more commonly seen Greys. We can see a similar representation dating back to pre-Columbian times in Latin America drawn in petroglyphs at minute 14:30 of the documentary UFO's the Complete Truth - Alien Interventions as seen from the above 2 screenshots:


There could be another explanation for this, reminding us of a vast tunnel systems lying underneath the Island of Malta which is located a few hundred miles to the Southwest of Corsica. Those beneath the Island of Malta are said to be extensive and to be inhabited by non human entities which live in the underworld. They have been often reported to abduct those exploring these tunnels and lost children are heard wailing below. To read up on that story you will want to scroll down to the section titled A Legend of Subterranean Life Forms midway down the following page:


The World Below Us, A Study of the Ancient Subterranean World by Ryan Dube


Reptilians in Malta tunnels


Regarding what exactly might be beneath these islands I will refer to a book which touches upon the subject. Here is a quote from File 12 of the extremely interesting and revealing book -

COSMIC CONFLICT & THE DA'ATH WARS

- which is a joint publication written by a group of whistle blowers and truth seekers under the joint pen name of Branton stating that the following questions were directed to insider whistle blower 'Thomas C.':


"Q - Did you notice any involvement of high-level Freemasons or Rosicrucians or Jesuits with the underground installation and/or underground creatures?"

("This based on the assumption made my some researchers that most if not all Masonic lodges are ultimately controlled by 'illuminized' 33rd degree Scottish Rite Masonry, a 'Rite' which can allegedly be traced back to the JESUIT college at Clermont, a 'lodge' which is also tied in with the Knights of Malta and possibly subterranean beings"):"

"A - "Yes".

"... Q - Some have suggested that the entities (or so-called EBE's) are not 'extraterrestrial' in (original) ORIGIN, but use their off-planet bases as a smokescreen designed to hide their true nature and origin, that their actual origin-place is a subterranean nether region beneath the surface of this planet, and that they are actually descended from a hominoid reptilian creature or 'serpent race' which is hinted at in the third chapter of the book of Genesis, and which is referred to as the 'Nagas' by both Hindus of India and Buddhists of Tibet. (They are) creatures which allegedly control the spiritual and physical leaders of these and other nations through supernatural manipulation. Does such a possibility/scenario fit in with your own observations at the Dulce facility?"

"A -
("Although this may have been a somewhat 'leading' question, his answer was") Yes."


He then goes on to state:


"Mount Shasta is a major site of Alien-Elder Race-Reptilian Race-human meetings."

"Beginning with Cleveland, Grover every president in U.S. history have visited Telos City. Truman was supposed to have visited the Lower Realms as a High Archon on Earth. He was supposed to have met the King of The World there, and gave him the 'Keys to the U.S.A."

"Truman received assurance to new high tech knowledge, and victory over all enemies on Earth. He then was introduced to Samaza and Khoach, aliens from Bootes and Tiphon (Draco), both reptilian 'kings' or Ambassadors."

"Truman updated the '100 Treaty' (that began IN 1933, Roosevelt) and requested magnetic advance, space knowledge and experiments. Khoach agreed, Samaza partially agreed. He exchanged hostages for genetic experiments and magnetic advances, but vetoed space and beam weaponry."



For reference, the research group under the banner of Branton gives some background to situate this testimony.



"In late 1979, Thomas C. could no longer cope with the awesome reality he had to confront. As a high level security officer at the joint alien-U.S. Government underground base near Dulce he had learned of and had seen disturbing things. After much inner conflict, he decided to desert the facility and take various items with him."

"Using a small camera, he took over 30 photos of areas within the multi-level complex. He removed a security video tape from the Control Center which showed various security camera views of hallways, labs, aliens, and U.S. Government personnel. He also collected documents to take with him. Then, by shutting off the alarm and camera system in one of the over 100 exits to the surface, he left the facility with the photos, video, and documents. These 'originals' were hidden after five sets of copies were made."

"Thomas was ready to go into hiding. But, when he went to pick up his wife and young son, he found a van and government agents waiting. He had been betrayed by K. Lomas (a fellow worker) who was instrumental in the kidnapping of his wife and child. The agents wanted what Thomas had taken from the facility for which he would get his wife and son back. It became apparent to him that his wife and son would be used in biological experiments and were not going to be returned unharmed. That was a little over ten years ago."

"How did Thomas get involved in all this covert intrigue?"

"Thomas is now about 50 years old (i.e. at the time the article was written - 1991 - Branton). When he was in his mid-twenties, he received top secret training in photography at an underground facility in West Virginia. For seven years, he worked for the Rand Corp. in Santa Monica, California when in 1977 he was transferred to the Dulce facility. He bought a home in Santa Fe, New Mexico and worked Monday through Friday with weekends off. All Dulce Base personnel commute via a deep underground tube-shuttle system.



This same publication offers us interesting analysis of what might be going on today with the Clone Conspiracy, in a passage which I shall now quote:


"The following is taken from an article by 'TAL' titled 'THE COVERT RETURN OF AN ALIEN SPECIES OF REPTILIAN HERITAGE - THE DULCE BASE,' which appeared in a mailer-newsletter distributed by researcher Patrick O'Connel:

According to TAL, ages ago "...a CONFLICT with other beings (ELs) destroyed most of their (Reptoid) civilization, which forced some into deep caverns & others to leave earth (to Alpha Draconis and/or Altair in the constellation Aquila, which in ancient lore was associated with evil reptilian creatures)...

The conflict is a Species War, between the Evadamic Seed & the "Serpent" (draconian) Seed.

"Under cover of darkness, with bases hidden inside the earth, this nocturnal invader has chosen to reclaim what was once theirs & use it (and us) as a staging area in their ancient conflict with the 'ELs'. (Note: That is, reclaim that which the serpent races WANT US TO BELIEVE was once theirs. The 'ELs' as we've said are the so-named EL-der brothers, a human race tied into the Evadamic heritage yet who have attained or retained a very tall physical stature - Branton)

"Humans with alien brain implants (the 'zombies') have been programmed to help overthrow Mankind in the NEAR FUTURE... The 'Reptoids' are even able TO TRANSFORM THEMSELVES INTO BEINGS WITH HUMAN CHARACTERISTICS & FEATURES.

The planet Earth is being stressed so that human resistance will be minimal, during the overt takeover & control of Mankind.

"It started as a 'joint interaction program.' An Alien Species wanted to share parts of it's advanced technology with certain humans in KEY POSITIONS OF POWER within government, military, corporations, 'secret societies', etc... The population as a whole began to be manipulated into the 'Alien Agenda'...they wanted TOTAL CONTROL of us!"




"'The ELs' will engage 'The DRACO' in battle around this Planet. Most will die. REVELATION 12:7: 'Now war arose in Heaven, Michael and his Angels fighting against the Dragon and his Angels...'

"The Elite Corporate/Military/Governmental Complex of this country (and its' connection to One-World control cliques) are currently in negotiation with the Draco. They have threatened 'Fail-Safe', if the Draco (the Serpent Race) and their minions ('The Greys' and their human Agents) do not stop exploitation of the Earth. In other words, an Elite Control Group (who have moved most of their chosen race, to Underground Cities on the Moon & MARS) are willing to launch 'Super-Dirty' Nuclear Weapons (from Deep Sub-City Bases, manned by patriotic 'mind controlled' orphans) to poison this entire Planet and kill everyone, so that no one can have the Jewel EARTH ('The Divine Tear')...

"THE SECRET OF 'V'... The following is a list of those Organizations which repeatedly advertised on NBC during the first 19, 'V' Programs, (a weekly, hour T.V. Series). Advertising support came from 'GENERAL ELECTRIC' (who happens to own NBC and has worked on the Government/Alien 'Saucer' Projects)... 'U.S. ARMY RECRUITING COMMAND'... 'AT&T'... 'EASTMAN KODAK'... 'UNION CARBIDE'... 'CHRYSLER CORP.'... 'MARS, INC.'... 'WARNER-LAMBERT'... 'FORD',... 'SEARS ROEBUCK & CO.'... 'McDONALDS'... 'ZALE CORP.'... 'KELLOGGS'...

"The 'Reptoids' are returning to Earth! The INVADERS are here. We must convince a disbelieving World that the nightmare has already begun. Their Purpose: to make Earth their World. It is not over for the Human Race. 'Freedom Fighters' join together...for the sake of ALL of US..."



GS


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posted on Sep, 26 2010 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

This however does not account for those who have subverted such methods for their own purposes, several stages beyond the rather benign infiltration seen in Avatar. In order to operate this, apparently a malevolent race of Reptoids such as the entity which I witnessed have bred specific hybrids who serve this purpose as our Royal lineages as well as their Illuminati brethren. These can be either naturally bred and "tweaked" by abductions to make them perfectly compatible Hosts for Alien Possession, or they may also be Cloned such as the individuals we have referenced in this thread.

If the Repts live in a different dimension or just on a different planet, they could be using remote viewing/mental projection as well. I believe that is what "demonic possession" is. A rept/demon "soul" could inhabit a human body or a dinosaur-like body similar to what you saw, I should think. Perhaps the dino-form is more similar to how they look back home. Anyway, they could potentially be coming mentally to prime the water for a physical invasion.





That is a very innovative interpretation of the Psychic Phenomenon. So rather than just existing within several dimensions, here on physical Earth and in some ethereal or astral plane, psychic people might have further insight due to being simultaneously alive at "home base" in their original physical world? This would grant them access to data not available to us about universal Akashic records or some other predictive technologies?

Well, exactly, if you're living in a higher dimension at the same time you're mentally projecting into this dimension, then you would have access to more information. That would come thru as "psychic ability."



There is, however, an entirely different sort of Alien Penetration of human society, using violent demonic possession, abduction and haunting (the movie The Fourth Kind comes to mind) and by way of Genetically engineered half breeds which we may call CLONED LEADERS.

Sure. These dark ones could inhabit a clone of a powerful leader & cause some serious damage. It's a pretty effective way to infiltrate, methinks.

BTW, I'm not really seeing it w/ Ahmendinejad. My gut says he's a white hat, but I could be wrong.



posted on Sep, 28 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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In case some here are interested in the possible identification of potential clones, here is a link to a post in the other Clone Conspiracy thread where several Merovingian Kings are suspected of having been Cloned.


Cloned Merovingians


There seem to be a number more, yet to be fully confirmed as identified. And of course there are a lot more suspected Cloned Leaders awaiting to be outed - time for them to come out of the closet!



Getsmart



posted on Sep, 28 2010 @ 11:39 PM
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Hi Someotherguy,


I noted your arguments but it doesn't seem to be something we can resolve just yet at this time. Are beings or entities we see "REAL"? Are they real AND physical? Are they REAL but Ethereal? Are they unreal and imaginary? Is our entire REALITY a figment of our imagination with us living in a long term dream trance here on Earth for years on end? Or is our dream state a return to the genuine reality and we are here in the living daylight experiencing a delusion? Is this dimension, as well as several others if not all just a projection of MIND? Is that what life is, in its entirely? A web or a matrix of perceptions, sensations, sentiments, feelings, emotions, ideas, thoughts, desires, hopes and strivings?



Originally posted by someotherguy
If the Repts live in a different dimension or just on a different planet, they could be using remote viewing/mental projection as well. I believe that is what "demonic possession" is. A rept/demon "soul" could inhabit a human body or a dinosaur-like body similar to what you saw, I should think. Perhaps the dino-form is more similar to how they look back home. Anyway, they could potentially be coming mentally to prime the water for a physical invasion.



As you noted above in my introductory reply, I cannot prove to myself or to anyone else that what I saw was REAL. However, to me it was at least as real and as physical than anything else I have ever seen and experienced. So if we're not real either, then maybe it wasn't. But if we, my friends and neighbors, my colleagues and acquaintances, are indeed real, then it WAS real also.


Then we get to the issue of what exact ENTITY, souls, spirit, mind or controller inhabited the body which I witnessed. Was it a human being using some sort of high technology cloned creatures as an Avatar? Who knows? Just like we don't know is somebody isn't using a Cloned Host as an Avatar in the person of your country's President. If that premise is right then iit could be designed to better correspond to the "nature of the Beast" piloting or inhabiting the body. But to me it DID NOT seem to be any sort of remote controlled being, but one which was self-determined and choosing its own trajectory and objectives with the utmost assurance. So I am sorry I cannot provide a satisfactory answer to your question, other than relay my general impression that this was an Unearthly Alien, a Draco Extraterrestrial who was slumming in my neighborhood.




Originally posted by someotherguy
Well, exactly, if you're living in a higher dimension at the same time you're mentally projecting into this dimension, then you would have access to more information. That would come thru as "psychic ability."



That is a very interesting explanation for the Psychic Phenomenon - that some can access a sort of record storage center where the info is readily available without strife or unwieldy efforts. However, there are other aspects of psychic ability which go beyond divination which are not explained by this theory. They may obey different processes or require different skill sets?



Originally posted by someotherguy
These dark ones could inhabit a clone of a powerful leader & cause some serious damage. It's a pretty effective way to infiltrate, methinks.



This has probably happened for quite a long time in Earth's history. The Windsors call this event the "Family Curse" and dread the day it will happen to them as it has for generations to their fore-bearers. While there is a strong probability of Alien Interference in the Cloning of our Leaders, we must also keep in mind a number of other parameters when analyzing this phenomenon. For example, the presence or not of Alien Entities inhabiting the Clones. Or the possibility of some sort of Alliance between Extraterrestrials and Demonic Entities from another Dimension who take on the task, willingly or in exchange for consideration, of possessing the Clones or those genetically so predisposed by inherited BLUE Bloodlines.



Originally posted by someotherguy
BTW, I'm not really seeing it w/ Ahmendinejad. My gut says he's a white hat, but I could be wrong.



I noted above that I had reserves about that particular attribution, however it has been apparent upon several occasions that he has thrown oil on the fire and almost precipitated World War III. It has has me wonder if he wasn't just one more of the "play actors" hired to push humanity beyond the brink and to the point of no return. By that token he is one dangerous individual, just as are quite a few other world leaders today - with many of them probably being mind controlled or alien piloted Clones.


GS



posted on Oct, 7 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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Fellow ATS researchers,


I am back posting another striking resemblance, one so significant that it jolted me like an electric shock when I realized how HUGE it was - especially as to the respective political roles of both individuals involved.


Here is a comparison of two men, one who founded one of the most significant Royal Bloodlines in European History, the other who is considered widely as one of the most eminent rulers of today's world, drumming in the New World Order as well as allegedly supporting an Alien Presence behind the scenes.


Giovanni di Bicci de Medici and David Rockefeller




Giovanni was the founder of the Medici Bank and his offspring was later to be found on thrones throughout Europe, mixing with the Royal Bloodlines and becoming our Monarchs.


Wikipedia Link: The House of Medici


Wikipedia Link: The Rockefeller Family


In case a few stragglers here unfamiliar with his role in today's geopolitical MATRIX we must explain that David Rockefeller is the current Patriarch of the highly influential Rockefeller family which founded and financed The United Nations, The CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) and the Trilateral Commission as extension of the Bilderberg Group which they have actively supported and promoted. This family that runs many Fortune 500 Multinational Corporations and has been a powerhouse behind the current economic Globalization as well as many programs to control society and condition populations.


ARTICLE: The Rockefeller - UFO Connection: An Alien Conspiracy?


This posting suggests that two of the most powerful people in human history may have identical genetic heritage.


Presumably the later is the clone of the former. Is David Rockefeller "inhabited" by an Alien Entity and used as some sort of Avatar to more effectively farm us? This possibility can be contemplated, as it can be envisaged that our 'Alien Masters' may have approved of the way their earlier 'farmer' exploited their human livestock, and chose to clone him to entrust the culling of the herd and the corralling of the scientifically selected survivors by using an identical individual, either mind controlled or otherwised "possessed".


How the Clones FARM Humans - Part 1



How the Clones FARM Humans - Part 2



What these videos seem to fail to address, maybe to avoid go too far too fast in lifting the veil, is that there is a strong likelihood that behind so MANY Centuries of harvesting human crops, it is probably non human ALIENS acting as our owners treating us like Human Cattle, while letting Genetically Engineered Royal Bloodliners and the Illuminati Elite hire themselves out as our SHARECROPPERS.



Getsmart
edit on 7-10-2010 by Getsmart because: of required link repair



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 04:57 PM
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* * * BREAKING NEWS * * *


THE CHARLES MANSON MURDERS SOLVED ! ! !


Upon discovering the alarming fact that the founder of the Medici Bank who brought his family to the highest nobility was cloned into our current Sheep Herder controlling much of the world from atop his Rockefeller One World Dictatorship, I thought it might be useful to take a deeper look into some other eminent personalities from the Italian Renaissance.


Accordingly, I looked into other prominent families of the time, and came across something which has BLOWN the lid off the mystery of the Charles Manson Murders.


Since this has to do with Clones who are Celebrities in the film industry or became notorious for their crimes, I posted this information in the other thread - The Clone Conspiracy: Stars and Celebrity Clones - here is a link to the posts which present the case.


The BORGIAS and the MANSON Murders


Polanski Clone's Tragic Fate losing his beloved to her own Brother


This is the first time the Clone Conspiracy has revealed that there is concurrent Cloning of GROUPS OF CLONES placed in proximity and brought to interact in very inexplicable ways.


GS



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 06:41 PM
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Another Cloned Leader just turned up.


He was General De Gaulle's CULTURE Minister and did much to create that function which had never existed before. Here he is hanging out with his Clone buddy President Charles De Gaulle. The reason I say that is because not only was he inordinately tall for a Frenchman, but because I presume he was CLONED from Charlemagne, the Great Carolingian King which gave his name to that dynasty immediately after the Merovingians.


Andre Malraux and Charles De Gaulle in a Government Palace



Sometimes it seems like the Clones lead the good life... until you remember that they were probably implanted and possessed, without their say in how they lead their empty shell of a life. At least this one filled the void with a lot of reading and writing.


Andre Malraux on Wikipedia


His predecessor also had culture and was a Patron of the Arts. Believe it or not, he was a Sponsor of Leonardo da Vinci who painted the Mona Lisa shown off above by his own Clone many centuries later:


Lorenzo Medici the Magnificent on Wikipedia


Andre Malraux showing a few Americans that the French have Culture



Andre Malraux and Lorenzo the Magnificent



The image is compelling enough that I won't go to the trouble to compare the many other closely resembling pictures of them.


Interestingly enough for a CLONE he stated the following in The Voices of Silence:


"Humanism does not consist in saying: ‘No animal could have done what I have done,’ but in declaring: ‘We have refused what the beast within us willed to do, and we seek to reclaim man wherever we find that which crushes him.’"


Could it be that some of the Clones battle to resist their Mind Control Programming ?!?


GS



posted on Oct, 8 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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Going back to the theory that Obama was cloned for a second... I haven't researched this too much, but there is a big brouhaha brewing over Obama's past - or seeming lack of it. Doesn't the story go that Obama was a law professor or that he had at least published law review articles? If so, then not a single one turned up on Westlaw. There is not a single law review article authored by a person using the name "Obama." Granted, I am not sure how far back the database goes, but I have found articles from the late 80's on it. Does it not seem rather odd that a law prof has nary a published law review article?



posted on Oct, 9 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
Going back to the theory that Obama was cloned for a second... I haven't researched this too much, but there is a big brouhaha brewing over Obama's past - or seeming lack of it. Doesn't the story go that Obama was a law professor or that he had at least published law review articles? If so, then not a single one turned up on Westlaw. There is not a single law review article authored by a person using the name "Obama." Granted, I am not sure how far back the database goes, but I have found articles from the late 80's on it. Does it not seem rather odd that a law prof has nary a published law review article?



Hi Someotherguy,


You may want to check if any articles were published under his birth name Barry Soetoro but that is a longshot. Look also among legal briefs on the subject of tenement tenant eviction, as this was his main activity when working for slum lords in Chicago. Maybe there are plans for turning the whole of the USA into one giant slum where he'd be collecting the rent... or is the goal to do that with the entire planet? Oh, I almost forgot, they've been doing that since they invented serfdom.



Doing research on him isn't going to be easy due to masses of trivial news in the internet, not to mention the disinfo and false leads. However he never studied where it was claimed, as neither faculty nor students remember ever seeing him, and he changed social security numbers and addresses more often than some of us change underwear - a telltale sign of a CIA cover-up of his actual whereabouts.


Some esteemed friends whose opinion I value think Obama's not totally bad, and might even be a stealth defender of our rights and freedoms, biding his time until the main objective come within reach. This also could be true, but if so - like for most infiltrators of the NWO - he would have to do things 'out of character' with such a vocation in order to stay in a position to affect change.


There is also the possibility that we might be confronted in the near future either with something resembling the "Project Bluebeam" leaked by NASA Founder Wernher von Braun revealed prior to his death - namely a FAKE Space Invasion used to scare us into accepting a One World Government - or possibly a - similar in effect - real or faked arrival of a Messiah. This might be why we were offered, with the help a $1 Billion campaign financed by the Rockefeller CLONE, the services of an 'elected' Clone who may eventually turn out to be a stealth Muslim or even may an actual human looking ALIEN ? See videos below.


For the first time a Muslim is made United States President


NOTE: I do not support the conclusion images at the end of this video blaming Muslims for 9/11 as it has been overwhelmingly proven they were used as scapegoats for that crime.


Not being a religious sort I couldn't care less what Obama's beliefs might be. Just as long as his religion doesn't substantially affect his policy decisions or our daily lives. Yet, his being catapulted to the highest executive positin may point to something beyond religion, something with greater Global Implications in correspondence with a secret plan of the United Nation? After all the UN was founded by the Rockefellers, had its buildings built by the Rockefellers, was actively promoted and funded by the Rockefellers and the same family thrust into the US Presidency Obama, a Muslim. Their One World Government United Nations created a controversial position, one of the most critical ExoPolitical Diplomatic Missions representing the concerns and interests of all of Humanity.


For this high role, the Rockefellers or their assistants chose a person with what appears to be similar ethnic and religious profile to Obama, as the UN Ambassador to Space Aliens. This person is lauded for having key scientific qualifications, something never before advanced as a qualification for such representing our planet's positions towards Alien intelligences. Not a former diplomat with experience in negotiation or representation, she is relatively new to the process of representing the nations of the earth. Why was she chosen, among our planet's 6.8 billion potential candidates?


Technically, we should have asked this question over 10 years ago when she was first nominated Director of the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) in Vienna - but Obama was not yet in the picture at that time. It is up to debate whether that position carries with it a delegation of power of representation of the whole of Humanity to Alien Civilizations. Nonetheless we can all understand that this is one of the most pivotal jobs on the Planet. especially if there has already been contact with an 'Alien Presence'.


She is not the only Malaysian interested in Space. Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor Al Masrie bin Sheikh Mustapha was an cosmonaut in the Angkasawan program where he was tasked with making tea and adapting Islamic rites to Space travel.


LINK: Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor on Wikipedia


"Since Sheikh Muszaphar is a Muslim, and as his time in space coincided with the last part of Ramadan, the Islamic National Fatwa Council drew up the first comprehensive guidebook for Muslims in space.[1][3] The 18-page guidebook is titled "Guidelines for Performing Islamic Rites (Ibadah) at the International Space Station", and details issues such as how to pray in a low-gravity environment, how to locate Mecca from the ISS, how to determine prayer times, and issues surrounding fasting. The orbit of the ISS results in one day/night cycle every 90 minutes,[1][28] so the issues of fasting during Ramadan are also addressed. The guidebook will be translated into Russian, Arabic, and English."


There seems at this time to be a serious peak in interest from the Rockefellers to bring Islam into the forefront. Could this be due to a given Alien Power having been involved with Earthly affairs during Mohammed's days as a Prophet? Is there a concealed underlying motivation for prompting people of similar ethnicity and religion to high positions. Might both Obama and Mazlan Othman been brought to these positions to facilitate our relations with an Alien Group of similar heritage? Could it even be that they are "not of this world"?


This sounds outlandish, but there is reason to wonder. It is found in the recent declarations of an Air Force Brigadier General who went from combat fighter to Military Astronaut and presents film footage of an Alien who could well pass for Malaysian, Indonesian, Pacific Islander or ancient Egyptian with especially slanted eyes. Could the individual they found be of a race of humans who once inhabited the lost continent of Atlantis that was submerged thousands of years ago? Some myths make them out to be humans who were so technologically advanced they traveled to distant star systems which they colonized. Could they have programmed a return to Earth for this century?


Was a body from an Alien Race discovered on the Moon during the Apollo 20 mission? NASA had 'officially' cancelled this mission originally scheduled for July 1972, but it is reported to have been completed in secret by the US and Soviet Military. It appears that this cancellation may have been merely for public relations purposes, given what was known to exist on the moon?


Throughout the 1970's a fighter pilot in the United States Air Force, his exact assignments cannot be verified for reasons of military security. However we can assume that his duties were transferred to Lunar flights with the Air Force Space Command given the film footage released. Brigadier General John William Rutledge is filmed on camera by Soviet Cosmonaut Alexei Leonov and shown personally inspecting the physical remains of an Alien individual nicknamed 'Mona Lisa' found in a very large cigar shaped spacecraft on the Moon's surface during that the Apollo 20 mission. The mission was nicknamed "Moonwalk" and was secretly launched from Vandenberg Air Force base in California in a joint American and Russian program called the Apollo Soyuz Test Project.


LINK: Bill Rutledge's official US Air Force Credentials


Cigar shaped spacecraft found on Moon surface



Initial examination of the body found in the spacecraft



Further examination of the body found in the spacecraft



Moon Structures seen from a distance



Moon Structures explored close up



Today on Earth 'she' might pass for Malaysian or Indonesian, and she definitely does not look Norwegian or African. An Italian website discovered similar features to those of Sumerian Queen Pu Abi.


Mona Lisa and Pu Abi



UN Alien Ambassador Mazlan Othman with Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor



Were both Mazlan Othman and Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor selected for having blood ties to a race of beings encountered in space? Is this also the reason that Obama is United States President? This might be a reason for an unexplained shift in Ethnocentrism for the most eminent leadership positions, possibly so that our Leaders more closely resemble the arriving "peoples"?


This might just be the hidden truth behind the sudden appearance of an unknown politician on the world scene, and the appointment of an unexpected figure as historically misogynous Earth's Female Ambassador to Aliens. Queen Pu Abi in ancient Sumer is thought to have been a Ruler without a King by her side, and this might due to a residual influence of an ancient Alien "Matriarchal Society"?


There are too many unanswered questions and the mystery thickens as quickly as the revelations emerge.


GS



posted on Oct, 10 2010 @ 09:57 AM
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Addendum to the above post


Malaysian astronaut Sheik Muszaphar posted the following on his blog about another astronaut of Asian ethnic origins.


Japanese American Astronaut Dan Tani



LINK: Dan Tani on Wikipedia


Article: Dan Tani's Mother Died in Car Crash


She was 90 years old and had lived for decades near the railroad crossing where she is said to have died. She was also quite old and didn't get there by being 'reckless'. It is reported that after stopping behind a bus waiting for a closed railroad barrier to lift, she passed the school bus honking to attract attention to then smash through the barrier and position/stop her car on the tracks right in front of an oncoming freight train. This happened exactly when her son was in the Space Station and had been solicited to further intervene outside the space station in his technical capacity.


Statistically this is an almost impossible scenario. Despite this there was no investigation of her death to my knowledge. Did Dan Tani confide in his mother? Did she have "loose lips"? Did she keep records of their conversations? Or was Dan Tani or were even the rest of the ISS crew refusing to do the unthinkable without questioning orders? Was Rose Tani simply eliminated to convey a clear signal to all astronauts of what awaits them if they don't tow the line?


Those among you who watch TV or Movies note that in many scripts use is made of passing trains to eliminate cumbersome witnesses or enemies in general, making for a particularly gruesome death with serious dissuasive psychological impact for whoever learns of the method employed. There are less horrible and painful deaths for those seeking to commit suicide. Criminal profilers will concur that this is the Modus Operandi (M.O.) of a 'signature' execution-style killing.


Yet reality is often stranger than fiction, because so much of our reality is hidden from us and we can only speculate and guess at a small portion through fiction. For example, we know that today's cars are electronically controlled by on-board computers which can be accessed remotely by appropriate technology. Most accelerators and brakes are actioned by electrical signals, occasionally subject to certain bugs such as those which led to Toyota's recent recalls.


Was Rose Tani's car electronically hijacked? Was she fleeing a menace and had her engine remotely killed once she was on the tracks? Was she even in the car at the time? Or was a 'dummy' used with her car entirely remote controlled? Why would she HONK at a school bus to call their attention? Was it really her calling attention to her pursuers? Or was it a faked scenario with a dummy riding and the car remotely honking to gain a busload of eyewitnesses? This is to be wondered given that she was not pronounced dead on the scene but only upon arrival at the hospital - although not many 90 year olds could have survived a train collision. Was her body substituted on the way to the hospital, with complicit rescue teams assisting? Conveniently chosen "counselors" were provided to the school kids to "help them out" with any disturbing testimony.


Because it is more likely than not that Dan Tani would have been exposed to many things he is not authorized disclose. For example, here is something customary going on around space stations:





Could it be that Dan Tani was reluctant to engage in certain types of contact with Aliens approaching the Space Station crew? Was the fuel gauge problem just a cover story to prepare for the world an explanation if these astronauts were never to return to Earth? Here is his EVA history, his mother died shortly after EVA 4.


Extra Vehicular Activities
Dan Tani has performed five spacewalks or EVAs to date.

Number Date Duration Description
EVA 1 Dec. 10, 2001 04:12 Install thermal blankets over the Beta Gimbal Assemblies (BGAs)
EVA 2 Nov. 20, 2007 06:40 External outfitting of the Harmony node
EVA 3 Nov. 24, 2007 07:04 External outfitting of the Harmony node
EVA 4 Dec. 18, 2007 06:56 International Space Station solar array issues
EVA 5 Jan. 30, 2008 07:10 Replaced a motor at base of one of the Space Station's solar wings


EVA 4 description


The Harmony Module isn't a small one. "Harmony is managed by NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Its deployment expanded the Space Station, allowing it to grow from the size of a three-bedroom house, to the space equivalent of a typical five-bedroom house, once the Japanese Kibō and European Columbus laboratories are attached."


Harmony under construction at NASA



Or maybe it is not due to issues with any Space Station modules or solar panels but something related to what a NASA Mission Controller Clark McClelland testifies to having seen on NASA live video feeds from the Space Shuttle. His official function was Spacecraft Operator, Space Shuttle Fleet, working at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida from 1958 to 1992.


Artist's rendering of Clark McClelland's eyewitness testimony





"I, Clark C. McClelland, former ScO [Spacecraft Operator], Space Shuttle Fleet, personally observed an 8 to 9 foot tall ET on his 27 inch video monitors while on duty in the Kennedy Space Center, Launch Control Center (LCC). The ET was standing upright in the Space Shuttle Payload Bay having a discussion with TWO tethered US NASA Astronauts!"


"I also observed on my monitors, the spacecraft of the ET as it was in a stabilized, safe orbit to the rear of the Space Shuttle main engine pods. I observed this incident for about one minute and seven seconds. Plenty of time to memorize all that I was observing."




Clark McClelland's testimony


It is useful to note that 9 feet tall is not a size incrementally larger than normal human size, it is approximately double the volume and weight of the full grown human astronauts seen alongside the entity.


Beyond the usual UFO traffic around our space probes, we may note that there could well have been an ongoing Alien participation in the Space Station projects, and that this type of activity might have something to do with Rose Tani's mysterious death. Could it be that Dan Tani was chosen for his genetic heritage as might be also presumed for Obama, Mazlan Othman and Sheik Muszaphar? Distressed, did he speak of it to his mother? And approaching the end of her life, did she want to set the record straight before meeting her maker, much like Obama's grandmother... who died unexpectedly during his campaign just as investigative journalists had arranged to meet with her?


GS



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Whether for good reason or simply due to a need to prevent redundancy as well as vary research axes, I have at present chosen to diversify certain theoretical pursuits between the two Clone Conspiracy Threads. While this is by no means allocated to field application requirements, the issue of Extraterrestrial Exopolitics seems to better suit the preoccupations of the use of Cloned Leaders, leaving the Stars and Celebrity Clones thread to concentrate on the equally important issues of what are Clones and how they can be detected, as well as what types of forces or entities may be manipulating them.


Therefore to avoid double posting, you may find a post with interesting links and reference material concerning CLONES and how they are instrumented in that other thread.


LINK: Clones - How they behave and how they are differently constituted


GS



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 02:07 PM
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Since the discussion has been launched in the other Clone thread about the essence and nature of Clones, we can take the opportunity here to look further into the possible reasons for using Clones as HOSTS for an Alien Agenda, either by Mind Control Programming and Matrix Manipulation or else by actually using them as Host AVATARS for Possessing Alien Entities.


Let it be duly noted that I hereby grant higher than 'normal' consideration to theories according to which there is an invading presence of Draconian Reptile Aliens due to my own harrowing eye-witnessing of one such Reptilian Humanoid. This explains why some of the less verifiable accounts are granted by me not higher credence, but greater evaluation when considering whether they may hold some truth.


For this purpose I will be cross-referencing several different sources which approach the issue of the presence of a Reality Matrix and forms of extraterrestrial influence on human behavior and society, expecting that the Clone Conspiracy may well be directly related to these considerations.


Those of you who have not seen the movies 'The Matrix', 'They Live' or 'Avatar' are encouraged to borrow, rent or view them by some other means. Each of these scenarios may well describe aspects of our current crisis that has reached an apex and which is seemingly coming to its final outcome. Some theories show that other Science Fiction movies such as 'Star Wars', 'Star Trek' or 'Stargate' may also hold elements of truth relevant to our current situation. Here is then a link to what I would term a DIFFICULT READ because it refers to testimony regarding a number of experiences which are well beyond our realm of acceptability, unless you have first hand seen for yourself a very inhuman looking Alien in the flesh. Yet this is not sufficient to make any similar claims true or worthy of use as reference, unless they are shored up by other evidential elements of testimony.


The first link will be to an account explaining the presence of the entities which I can personally attest to the existence of, the Draco Reptilian humanoids. I KNOW they exist, but can only consider as a possibility that the following explanation of their presence is just that - a possible explanation.


Link: DRACONIAN INFILTRATION AND
INTERVENTION IN EARTH SOCIETY



To resume, this account drawn from a Montauk Project member's recollections refers to a history of their presence among us as well as the potential return of this Race to Earth. The Draco Reptilians, originating from the Star System Alpha Draconis, are judged to be a predatory "Pirate Race" of Aliens seeking to Invade all of the Milky Way Galaxy, encircling it by colonizing planets on its outskirts such as Earth to then systematically tighten their grip on planets closer and closer to its center. Earth in this scenario is a vital outpost to use as a base camp to help with labor and resources to launch their Armada.


Also, there is said in this testimony to be in our Galaxy a Federation of Alien Races inhabiting our Galaxy which would be biding their time in awaiting to see if we are able to rid ourselves of the Reptilian Colonial Matrix grip on our planet. Should we succeed they would welcome us into their Galactic Federation, should we fail we would unfortunately become collateral victims of their need to oppose the Dracos and prevent by way of military Armageddon their use of our planet as a staging base.


While this may all be utter Science Fiction, hatched to entertain us or churned out to mislead and deceive us, it nonetheless carries in its explanations a number of disturbing components which coincide with other information we may have about our planet's ancient history as well as discovered in our current state as a controlled society.


One is the issue of the Moon. No, this is not as wacky as it may sound, because there is significant evidence that beyond the gravitational variations causing tidal change, the Moon affects people more than by reducing by a few grams their perceived body weight.


I will refer to my own question addressed in person to the Captain of the Berkeley Police Department in the late seventies, at the reception desk of their offices. I entered having learned of a possible correlation between the Full Moon and criminal behavior, and asked the clerk if this was to their knowledge accurate. He could not reply and asked his Chief to come to the desk to reply. He was partly reluctant to reply to my question, but did nonetheless respond that while he didn't believe in any form of scientific correlation between the Moon and criminal behavior, his department had to deal with roughly DOUBLE the criminal activity in the community during the Full Moon and that accordingly, as a prudential measure to ensure proper law enforcement they doubled the number of officers on night duty during that period of the month.


This may however be an extreme case, given that at that time the city of Berkeley was often referred to as "The Open Ward" given the influx of mentally disturbed psychiatric patients which had been massively expelled from State Mental Institutions when Ronald Reagan as Governor of California closed them down. It is my contention, similarly to what can be discovered in the other Clone Conspiracy thread linked to in the preceding post. that these former patients were especially vulnerable to External Influence on their psyche. This might explain the extreme incidence on collective behavior of that community at that time.


This does however lead me to grant greater consideration to what some researchers are claiming to be in the character and nature of the Moon. From David Icke who says that it is a hollowed out planet used as a surveillance vessel for Alien Controllers, to John Lear who claims it is a repository for Stolen Human Souls HARVESTED by Aliens, to those from the Montauk Project who state that it was originally a VESSEL used by the Draco Reptilians aeons ago as a base to take over and colonize Planet Earth back when there were still the Continents of Lemuria and Atlantis.


David Icke on the alleged inhabitants of Lemuria - the Serpent Race Alien Draco Reptilians



David Icke: The Moon Matrix


"His most staggering revelation is that the Earth and the collective human mind is manipulated from the Moon, which, he says, is not a ‘heavenly body’, but an artificial construct – a gigantic ‘spacecraft’ (probably a hollowed-out 'planetoid') – which is home to the extraterrestrial group that has been manipulating humanity for aeons."


Moon Soul Harvester taking Atlantis Crewmembers' Souls



Beam from Moon during Space Shuttle Atlantis Explosion


There are those who believe that a residual population of Dracos are running the show from underground bases beneath the Earth's surface where they find the higher temperatures they prefer - given that all limbed reptiles live underground insofar as other similar species are concerned on our planet. They are said to be at the origins of the Hades eternal fires of Hell myths and religious accounts, and they are also accredited with being the source of our many Dragon stories as well as Serpent Gods of ancient religions. Some credit them with being the ones who mixed their bloodlines with human DNA to create Hybrid Rulers we are imposed as our Kings and Queens ruling by divine right due to their blood relation to GOD or, in this instance, the Draco Reptilian Aliens.


An example of our 'Chosen' Rulers?



Whatever may be the case, there is an obligatory role of the Draco Reptilians with respect to those governing our nations, otherwise it would not have been possible to allow or cover up the presence of the very large tow legged highly intelligent "Dragon" I witnessed on the streets of a major world capital.


Are they here to use our planet as a base in invading the entire Milky Way galaxy? Is this why apparently many Aliens have been visiting our planet in recent decades? Are the Science Fiction movies and shows illustrating scenarios which are actually on the verge of affecting human destiny? Is the truth something far more challenging than we are prepared to confront?


We know there are CLONES. I know first hand there are Dracos. Many have seen UFOs and almost as many have been victims of Alien Abductions. The Secret Government lies to us, deceives us, dissimulates and covers up the truth will all its powers and resources. The Military and Espionage agencies contribute to this deception and reportedly assist certain Alien Races in their incursions on Earth and their infiltration of world power structures. We are being surreptitiously invaded by physical Aliens in spacecraft and infiltrated by dimensional entities as possessing spirits or haunting ghouls. Something is up, and the Clone Conspiracy is but one piece of the puzzle.


Getsmart



posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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Did you already post about how NASA was air-brushing out moon bases on their images?

UFO: The Greatest Story Ever Denied - Moon Bases


I received info that the moon was controlled by repts just days before I heard about Icke's Moon Matrix theory basically saying the same thing.

Anyway, that picture of Queen Liz(ard) makes me think of my favorite impersonator, Sir/Serpent Paul. In the film, "Cream of the Beatles," these images are flashed;





IMO, it seems to allude to a rept entity hiding behind a human mask.

Cream of the Beatles 1 & 2






posted on Oct, 11 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Yes, there seems to be considerable concurring testimony about a "reptilian" presence WITHIN hosts or possessed leaders and celebrities. Among the later, the impostor replacing James Paul McCartney, presumably killed when he was still one of The Beatles on tour in the USA, and nicknamed first by John Lennon Faul for fake Paul, Faul is a good example of this reptilian influence in hosts.


I cannot say exactly how this possession is exercised, although there are very extensive studies on the topic which have surfaced and can be downloaded online about Mind Control Programming, The Tavistock Institute, Military Intelligence Cointelpro Operations as well as the use of the Media, Music and Movie industries to promote an Agenda of Mass Conditioning of Populations.


However, I must make it clear that the Reptilian Entities - at least the Warrior Draco types such as the one I saw seems to correspond to - are far more dreadful than the worst of those which possess, something I say after replaying several times the most shocking scenes in the movie The Fourth Kind. So I consider that they may obey a similar objective, and might possibly originate from the same Alien Race, within our dimension or coming from elsewhere, but whereas the physical ones will be full fledge confrontational many times beyond any murderous wrath we can imagine, the others are subversive and corrupting, seducing and ingratiating their hosts in the same manner as many parasites in nature by influencing situational circumstances to grant them unwarranted power, incongruous sex appeal, inordinate wealth and the fulfillment of their most shameless desires.


It appears we are confronted from a same Reptilian source with enemies on two fronts.


On the outside fearsome deadly Draco warriors with tremendous physical strength, high technology weapons, predatory psychic abilities, advanced intelligence and spite for "lesser life forms" such as humans along with a fanatical urge to dominate everything. Just seeing one redefines terror.


On the inside invisible transdimensional astral Reptilians, who seem to use the Reptilian DNA in our hybrid genetics to focus their control and harness our bodies and minds to their objectives. These "ghost entities", who are actually demonic spirits from elsewhere, possess many people and are probably behind the creation of Clones as Hosts which we have dubbed The Clone Conspiracy.


So we are under attack today on two fronts. Under psychic attack, with possession, abductions, inhuman situations in many people's lives brought on uselessly for any of us but most usefully for those bent on the destruction of humanity. We are also under serious strategic menace by their potential military invasion of our planet's surface territory with, as consequence, our annihilation or total enslavement.


This is a most grave situation to which we are waking up once again. For already in antiquity the physical Dracos were known as The Devil and his Minions, the blood thirsty Serpent Gods who on several continents demanded human sacrifices to quell their anger or satiate their appetite. In ancient times it was also known that Evil Spirits and disincarnate Demons acted as predators on the innocent, taking control of their will and possessing their bodies and minds. Today we are relearning our history, one which was kept hidden and locked away in the occult lore of secret societies, some of which still enter pacts with the "Devil" calling him 'Baphomet' we could more appropriately call 'Draco'.


Given this seemingly verifiable tragedy to which Earth is today subjected, it becomes more than wishful thinking to hope for the presence of other Alien beings that can only be less antagonistic than the two legged dinosaurs which seem to be our main opponents at this date. There are numerous accounts of benevolent Alien Races, some which are humans from other star systems, others who are different but could pass for us, yet others who look quite different but are not animated with such hostile intentions towards us and our planet. Not having seen or known first hand any of these, I can only attest to the dark side of the story, which is unfortunately alarmingly real.


Humanity is not only opposed by physical Aliens with great abilities, we are also assailed by legions of demonic spirits and impeded in our combat by many complicit people who have been either corrupted or fully taken over by them. We can only know, and this for certain as our presence is in direct evidence of this as fact, that we can overcome because it is already against all odds that we should still be here, combative and forward looking, hopeful and constructive in our plans to secure our world and repel the unthinkable. For there must be some form of power on our side in the spiritual realm, otherwise how can we explain that the battle isn't already over sealed in our defeat? Because as long as our spirit goes on, we cannot be taken.


GS



posted on Oct, 12 2010 @ 04:16 PM
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Regarding WHO might be the ENEMY I invite you to a posting in the other Clone Conspiracy thread examining the leads which point in the direction of Aliens from Sirius B who may have been present on our Planet as an outside interfering influence many Millenia ago.


Aliens from Sirius B and the Masonic Agenda for Earth


You will note that Freemasonry is also explored for its potential complicity in advancing an Alien Agenda for the replacement of Humans with Clones and the preparation of the Planet for an Alien Return to Earth.


GS



posted on Oct, 13 2010 @ 06:26 PM
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In the last 10 minutes of this interview, Bob Dean talks about synthetics, clones, & soul transplants




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