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The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones

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posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 05:00 AM

Originally posted by someotherguy
12. There is the misconception that all Illuminati are reptilians, and that is not so. Just as humans can be “good” or “bad,” most simply speaking, so can reptilians, and within the Illuminati are “bad” of both species...

HORISS: ... It is known by some of your people that certain of my civilization are fearsome creatures that have been causing all manner of evil upon your world for endless time. We are not proud of that truth, and I have been requested to speak on behalf of our greater numbers who equally oppose the influence of those dark members. We, too, think of them as dark because of their actions, and we are in combat with them to rid their influence on your planet and all the rest of this part of the universe...

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Hi Someotherguy,

Hopefully we are zeroing in on the nature of The Beast which is governing our world. It isn't an individual being but clearly a wide assortment of malevolent beings organized into power groups who run politics and media. They are far from human and in direct opposition to anything "good". Bent on Evil they have characteristics which bring us to assume they are Aliens because their nature and behaviour are so Alien to us. This brings us to consider if there isn't more to what you quoted above:

"Just as humans can be “good” or “bad,” most simply speaking, so can reptilians, and within the Illuminati are “bad” of both species."

We can take another look at the duality of the two Kingdoms of Ancient Egypt and the forces which ruled them. The reproduction of King Tut's death mask show his forehead surmounted with two sculpted symbols which seem to represent those entities or forces which inhabited him.

Death Mask of King Tut

We will note that filtered with today's perspective it appears that there is an open declaration that this Political Leader of his nation was not just viewed as a simple man but a God by virtue of his being possessed by the 2 separate entities illustrated above.

Also of interest is that he was issue of inbreeding which would predispose his genetics to being more easily possessed. This is an early example of the still ongoing Illuminati preservation of fragile bloodlines which are prone to becoming HOSTS for other beings.

Anyone interested in Egyptology will know that there is an autocratic guardian of Egypt's ancient secrets who forbids exploration of the large underground site believed to be beneath the Giza Pyramids and who also presumably hides from neophytes such as us the true nature of his country's history. Here he is at Luxor sampling King Tut's mummy.

Zahi Hawass and King Tut

Extracting DNA

From the University of Minnesota Duluth course outlines I found this artist's rendition of King Tut.

King Tut

Artist's Rendition of King Tut

You can say that one of our current Cloned Leaders does not look nearly as Kenyan as he does Egyptian, if you can see beyond their soles...

Any relation to King Tut ?

posted on Feb, 28 2010 @ 02:05 PM
The serpent symbolism associated with the pharaohs is also quite revealing.

I think TPTB are telling us the score with movies such as "They Live" & "V - the Final Battle" (recently re-made).

In the short story "They Live" was based on, "Eight O'Clock in the Morning" by Ray Nelson, the aliens were reptilians. Here is a portion of the story. The main character's name is quite interesting - George Nada.

George: reference to St. George & the Dragon
Nada: possible allusion to Naga, which are "in Indian scriptures and legends the Naga are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface." Reptilians

At the end of the show the hypnotist told his subjects, "Awake."
Something unusual happened.

One of the subjects awoke all the way. This had never happened before. His name was George Nada and he blinked out at the sea of faces in the theatre, at first unaware of anything out of the ordinary. Then he noticed, spotted here and there in the crowd, the non-human faces, the faces of the Fascinators. They had been there all along, of course, but only George was really awake, so only George recognized them for what they were. He understood everything in a flash, including the fact that if he were to give any outward sign, the Fascinators would instantly command him to return to his former state, and he would obey.

He left the theatre, pushing out into the neon night, carefully avoiding any indication that he saw the green, reptilian flesh or the multiple yellow eyes of the rulers of the earth. One of them asked him, "Got a light buddy?" George gave him a light, then moved on...

George lived alone in a little sleeping room, and as soon as he got home, the first thing he did was to disconnect the TV set. In other rooms he could hear the TV sets of his neighbors, though. Most of the time the voices were human, but now and then he heard the arrogant, strangely bird-like croaks of the aliens. "Obey the government," said one croak. "We are the government, " said another. "We are your friends, you'd do anything for a friend, wouldn't you?"


He went out again. The posters, the TV, the occasional commands from passing aliens did not seem to have absolute power over him, though he still felt strongly tempted to obey, to see things the way his master wanted him to see them. He passed an alley and stopped. One of the aliens was alone there, leaning against the wall. George walked up to him.

"Move on," grunted the thing, focusing his deadly eyes on George.

George felt his grasp on awareness waver. For a moment the reptilian head dissolved into the face of a lovable old drunk. Of course the drunk would be lovable. George picked up a brick and smashed it down on the old drunk's head with all his strength. For a moment the image blurred, then the blue-green blood oozed out of the face and the lizrd fell, twitching and writhing. After a moment it was dead.

George dragged the body into the shadows and searched it. There was a tiny radio in its pocket and a curiously shaped knife and fork in another. The tiny radio said something in an incomprehensible language...

There was a knock at the door.

George opened it.

It was one of the aliens.

"Can't you keep the noise down to a dull roar?" it said.

The eyes and reptilian flesh faded a little and George saw the flickering image of a fat middle-aged man in shirtsleeves. It was still a man when George slashed its throat with the eating knife, but it was an alien before it hit the floor. He dragged it into the apartment and kicked the door shut. "What do you see there?" he asked Lil, pointing to the many-eyed snake thing on the floor...

"V" was supposedly based on the Dulce base (New Mexico) uprising where lower level reptilian and human operatives joined forces and rebelled against the hierarchy. The story of Dulce was relayed by Thomas Castello now missing, presumed dead. "V" showed how the repts were going to force vaccinations, how the repts & humans had similar genetics, how they showed fake news shows, how they were fascists, how they mind-controlled people, how they ate people, etc. Someone thought it was worth re-making.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by someotherguy]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 03:14 AM

Originally posted by someotherguy

I think TPTB are telling us the score with movies such as "They Live" & "V - the Final Battle" (recently re-made).

In the short story "They Live" was based on, "Eight O'Clock in the Morning" by Ray Nelson, the aliens were reptilians...

At the end of the show the hypnotist told his subjects, "Awake."
Something unusual happened.

One of the subjects awoke all the way. This had never happened before. His name was George Nada and he blinked out at the sea of faces in the theatre, at first unaware of anything out of the ordinary. Then he noticed, spotted here and there in the crowd, the non-human faces, the faces of the Fascinators. They had been there all along, of course, but only George was really awake, so only George recognized them for what they were. He understood everything in a flash, including the fact that if he were to give any outward sign, the Fascinators would instantly command him to return to his former state, and he would obey...

Hi Someotherguy,

Ray Nelson was better informed that we know and his allusion to "The Fascinators" brings us back to the Egyptian cult of the Cobra, a reptile which fascinates its prey by hypnotizing it before striking. Ourselves, we are prey to a similar reptilian species which uses hypnosis to brainwash us into blindness and submission. It is no wonder that they use their controlled agents in Media as much as in Politics. They mean to numb their victims before destroying them.

Here is another confirmation in the Analysis of Project Camelot which has done a lot to investigate what is going on behind the scenes in the Secret Government and Alien connected Black Operations. Especially interesting are Bill Ryan's words from minute 1:45 to 3:00.

"Where this PLAN originates from, which is very interesting to speculate, our source told us that this has been in place for a long time. He first heard about the Anglo-Saxon Mission as long ago as 1976. The Illuminati symbolism about the Dawn of the New Day has been going on for a long time. Many people think that this PLAN requires such a super human level of intellligence and strategic understanding, and is so ruthless and so cold that the logic suggests - - and David Icke says this, Jordan Maxwell says this, we say this ourselves, with full agreement - - that this didn't come from a human source. People aren't capable of doing this against other people. There's something else behind this."


Here is the PLAN that Project Camelot has leaked:

"-- There is a planned Third World War, which will be nuclear and biological. Our source believes that this is on track to be initiated within the next 18-24 months.

-- It is planned to begin with a strike by Israel on Iran. Either Iran or China will be provoked into a nuclear response. After a brief nuclear exchange, there will be a ceasefire. The world will be thrown into fear and chaos - all carefully engineered.

-- The extreme state of tension will be used to justify heavy social and military controls in all western first world nations. Plans are already in place for that.

-- During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our source chillingly told us, "China will catch a cold". Biological warfare will spread further, to the west. Infrastructure will be critically weakened.

-- This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the "real" war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our source tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting.

This horrific scenario has been planned for generations. The first two world wars were part of the set-up for this final apocalypse - as is the centralization of financial resources that was precipitated with the equally well-planned financial collapse of October 2008.

As if all this were not enough, our source speculates this is all set against the backdrop of a coming "geophysical event" - the same kind of event as was experienced by our ancestors approximately 11,500 years ago. If this event occurs - not necessarily expected in 2012, but sometime in the next decade - it would destroy civilization as we know it, dwarfing even the effects of a nuclear war.

I asked the question to our source: If there's an expected catastrophe, then why initiate a Third World War? His answer, for the first time to me, made terrible sense.

The real goal, he explained, is to set up the post-catastrophic world. To ensure that this "New World" [note the term] is the one the controllers want, totalitarian control structures need to be in place when the catastrophe occurs - with an excuse that the populace will accept and demand them. Martial law in the right, carefully chosen countries before the catastrophe occurs will enable the "right" people to survive and prosper in the post-catastrophic world, and the beginning of the next 11,500 year cycle. What may have been carefully planned on a covert global scale, for the last several generations, is nothing less than who will inherit the Earth.

Who are the "right" people? The white Caucasians. This may be why the name of this project is The Anglo-Saxon Mission. Hence the justification for the planned genocide of the Chinese people - so that the New World is inherited by "us", not "them".

Our source was not informed about the planned fate of the second and third world countries such as those in South America, Africa and Asia. But he presumes that these would be allowed to fend for themselves and probably not survive well - or maybe not at all. The totalitarian military governments of the western, white, people are set to be the inheritors.

This is a plan to evil, so racist, so diabolical, so huge, that it almost defies belief. But it all aligns with what many commentators, researchers and whistleblowing insiders have been identifying for some years now. For me personally, it's the clearest picture yet of why the world is the way it is, and why the secrets are protected so fiercely: it may be all about racial supremacy. The Fourth Reich is alive and well."

The Fourth Reich Nazi Continuum is in the link under my signature. Here is more about the "Catastrophe".

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Getsmart]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 05:10 AM
This development, if confirmed, brings new light to The Clone Conspiracy. Cloned Political and Media Leaders are only one aspect of the overall plan. Anglo-Saxon Aryan Masons are currently being deluded into thinking that they will be the "Survivors" of the Great Cataclysm programmed for Earth in a cyclical pattern.

While the Ecological Movement is obviously important as a measure of preserving our Earthly Ecosystem, apparently it isn't being done for our interest given that the Illuminati have been the ones who perpetrated the greatest damages to Earth by their choices of industrial development and fossil energy when all the time they withheld clean energy from us. While many believe in the sincerity of the Green Movement I remain convinced that it isn't to Green the planet for our well-being but is more in line with this extremely revealing Greenpeace commercial.

Greenpeace - Alien Invasion Advert

A greener cleaner Planet is of course important to all of us. But reducing our use of natural resources and placing the Planet above humanity's health and survival is not in our interest, but in the interest of the ALIENS who have been planning to INHERIT THE EARTH.

The Freemasons, the Illuminati Bloodlines, their allies in the Military and Intelligence communities, their Cloned political lapdogs and Cloned Media shills - - are being grossly DECEIVED just like the German citizens were played for fools during WWII. They only need to look to what happened to the German population to see a measure of what awaits them in turn. Fed by the same Illusions as the Jehovah's Witnesses - - whose founder Charles Taze Russell was interestingly buried next to an Illuminati Pyramid within plain view of the Freemason Lodge in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania at the "spiritual headquarters" of the American branch of the Illuminati - - these accomplices will be themselves turned upon, betrayed and "PROCESSED".

Charles Taze Russell: An Illuminati Mind Controlled ALIEN AGENT

Charles Taze Russell's Tomb

The Greater Pittsburgh Masonic Center

The Illuminati, the Freemasons, their political, military and intelligence accomplices will not be granted the Earth after the End Times, as promised, any more than will the Jehovah's Witnesses. They will be - in their own time - also purged. They with their families shall be enslaved, experimented on, or terminated in a most unsavoury manner. Let it be known they shall only have themselves to blame when this outcome arrives, should they have in any way assisted its unfolding. For it plainly appears that these Aliens or Dimensional Entities, with Reptilian cunning and hypnotic mind control, are planning a New Era, a New Age of Slavery for humankind by invading and controlling Earth after the cataclysm of 2012.

The Great Deceit: PLAN of the Ages

George Orwell - - himself privy to the REAL Plans for the future of humanity - - amply warned us of this event in his book 1984, the totalitarian rule of Big Brother which is a huge system or machine governing the world quite similar to the NWO PLAN of today. Only such a system is not only inhumane, it is actually INHUMAN and therefore Alien. George Orwell also alerted us to how we must react to defend ourselves against their "culling of the herd" in his book Animal Farm.

The Clone Conspiracy is therefore only a preliminary experimentation to clone the future SLAVE RACE of Earth. Our Cloned Leaders are being tested, programmed, manipulated and controlled by their Alien Masters. We are being herded by them and dumbed down into trance induced helplessness. The Cloned Leaders are themselves only tools and prototypes of future DRONES - - which like their aviation prototypes are so many vessels without a Pilot on-board. They have nobody at the helm and are remote controlled by their Alien Minders.

The rest of humanity is currently being cajoled into preparing the future of our world where all its resources and technology, much of which has been withheld from us purposefully, will be used to implement and extend the post cataclysmic New World Order totalitarian re-population of Earth by Alien entities served by Cloned Sub-Human slaves without conscience. Our current Cloned Political Leaders are examples of the planned future for Mankind: Brainwashed Clones without Souls.

These Illuminati Operatives are the real order givers, those at the G20 in the photo below are only stand-in order takers for their despotic rule. They have arrogantly chosen to hold the latest G20 summit at their Spiritual headquarters in Pittsburgh. The Logo of this summit shows that Pittsburgh is the power center which bridges the World.

G20 Cloned Puppets


Freemasons, Intelligence operatives, Military staff, Journalists must all awaken to the fact that their COMPLICITY spells their own DOOM. Contrary to propagated disinformation within their own organizations, despite the underground shelters they think will save them from the worst fate, regardless of any claims of their future access to higher wealth and power in a less populated world... they will meet their own downfall at the hands of far more powerful Aliens planning on replacing them by bio-engineered Clones.

It is no longer an issue of who survives, who rules and who loses. It is a matter of whether any genuine traces of human individuality and self-determination will survive this final test of destiny. Will humans be the ones to spell the end of humanity as we know it? At least let it be the work of the Aliens themselves without an armada of human complicity. Remember that there is one level of treachery which is worse yet than the forthcoming betrayal of your complicity by these Alien masterminds. It is the act of High Treason Against Humanity which is the worst crime of any species committed by assisting in its own destruction.


Beyond the clear statements made on mainstream news by the former British Defense Ministry expert in charge of UFO investigation, the former Canadian Minister of Defense also makes similarly hard declarations of the reality of an ongoing Alien Incursion into Human affairs.


Shortly before his death Pentagon and White House expert in National Defense Philip Corso made the following statement in his book "The Day After Roswell":

"For more than 50 years, the War against UFOs has continued as we try to defend ourselves against intrusion... The Hughes Hunter-Killer Satellites of the 1970's were our first steps in deploying a Planetary Defense System that held any threat to the Aliens."

Secret Space: Alien Invasion

"The U.S. Military has better, more accurate, and more powerful weapons for killing UFOs than were deployed in the Movie Independence Day."

What is it you want us to do ?

We have received the message, only the Military and Intelligence community should harken and pay attention. Their Cloned Political Leaders who impersonate democratically elected legitimate power should NOT be considered their Commander in Chief. You must be FIRST commanded by your duty to HUMANITY.

The MUTINY has already occurred. It was perpetrated Above you in the Chain of Command, by Cloned Leaders who have mutinied against the rest of humanity and, knowingly or not, committed HIGH TREASON against the States they represent, against the populations they serve, against the very Humanity that they are meant to uphold and protect.

To countermand the orders of such Treasonous Clones is an act of pure Patriotism, only your intelligent rebellion can respect Sacred Oaths of Allegiance to the higher values of Nations and Peoples, and meet the exacting requirement of a Soldier's HONOR.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Getsmart]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 05:30 PM
Disclosure is happening now. Maybe not through "official" channels, but on an individual basis, people are figuring out that we're not alone.

I think it's important to keep in mind that there are different races out there. Some that are interacting with us are indeed, very dark, but there are others that are trying to help us. The dark ones are into the fear-mongering, because it keeps people scared, & then they're easier to control. It also keeps the energy frequency low - where they like it. I think it's important to know the enemy - the dark aliens, but not to be overly afraid of them. Just know how they work & how to protect yourself.

David Icke on Satanism - worship of these dark aliens

BTW, the Freemasons who are below 33 degree don't know anything about any of this stuff. 33 degree is by invitation only. George Washington wrote about how the Freemasons had been infiltrated by the Illuminati. So, not all Freemasons are baddies

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 08:45 PM
Just finished reading the postings and viewing the plethora of videos. I must say that it took me all day to get through them, but it was well worth it to listen and learn.

Thank you for your posting. I for one truly enjoyed taking the time to go through all of the videos and photographs and links that ended up in the many postings offered up as proof that this posting struck a lot of specific nerves and serves to represent an issue that obviously resides in the minds of many regarding our so called leaders of government.

Thanks again for the posting.

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 05:16 AM

Originally posted by MaxBlack
Just finished reading the postings and viewing the plethora of videos. I must say that it took me all day to get through them, but it was well worth it to listen and learn.

Hi MaxBlack,

Quite the endeavour reading all these posts and viewing the videos - - in such a short time so much to consider and analyze. It helps to know that others may be interested given that much work goes into studying the issues, reviewing identities and preparing visual documents.

It is a vastly confusing matrix of theories and speculations confronted with a good deal of evidence from events and declarations. Much research has already been undertaken in these fields but an abundance of disinformation poisons the debate. Fortunately we've been spared the usual disinfo artists which habitually troll the ATS forums, possibly because the agencies they work for are themselves trying to learn what is going on, given that they are OUT OF THE LOOP when it comes to overall game plans and the extensiveness of implanted Cloned Leaders.

Thanks for joining the discussion!


posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 05:28 AM
Steven Greer mentions Racism just as does Billy Meier. To me this also has much to do with an Alien agenda to engineer humanity's genetic pool and biological heritage. This may well be currently advanced by the Royal Bloodlines directly through today's ruling Monarchs and other Bloodliners all united within the racist Bilderberg Group. Here is what Asia Times Reports about this Elite power group which excludes from membership Asians, Arabs, Africans and ethnically mixed Latin Americans.

" Bilderberg is strictly "Western" elite, ie American-European. Bilderberg resolutely excludes Asia, Latin America, the Middle East and Africa. Bilderberg operates in strictly master of the universe territory: what we say goes."

"The Bilderberg group - which took its name from a Dutch hotel - was founded in 1954 by Prince Bernhard from the Netherlands. German-born Bernhard was a card-carrying Nazi and member of the SS. As it is well-known, Prescott Bush was an officer of W A Harriman & Co, which financed Adolf Hitler and the Nazis with the help of Averell Harriman and German tycoon Fritz Thyssen. Alden Hatch wrote a biography of Prince Bernhard where he insists that Bilderberg was the cradle of the European Community - later rebranded European Union. He describes Bilderberg's ultimate goal as a one-world government."

Asia Times: The Roving Eye - Bilderberg Strikes Again

"The Bilderberg mingles central bankers, defense experts, press barons, government ministers, prime ministers, royalty, international financiers and political leaders from Europe and America. Guests this year, along with Rumsfeld and Perle (US Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz is also a member) included banker David Rockefeller, as well as various members of the Rockefeller family, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Queen Sofia and King Juan Carlos of Spain, and high officials of assorted governments. The Bilderberg does not invite - or accept - Asians, Middle Easterners, Latin Americans or Africans."

Asia Times: The Masters of the Universe

This establishes a CLEAR BLOODLINE CONNECTION between the members of the ILLUMATI Elite. They are possibly the reunited Tribes of Israel hiding their heritage from populations.

Burke's Peerage & Baronetage confirm: Nearly all US Presidents are descendant from the British and French Royal Families

We can therefore assume that the majority of those attending the Bilderberg, as well as other key Illuminati families, are part of these same bloodlines prone to demonic possession or ALIEN monitoring and control. We know now of the Anglo-Saxon Mission which seems to have widened the Nazi Aryan Agenda to other white caucasian creeds. Interestingly Hitler didn't want too destructive an onslaught on Great Britain because he said they were a superior race. We also know of the claims of the Queen of England to be a direct descendent of Salomon. Her coronation throne sits atop the Stone of Destiny from the House of David and the Kings of Judah. This is fine and dandy except that it might bear within its origins also a clue to the source of the Anglo-Saxon Mission disclosed by Project Camelot. If originally descended from King Salomon, the British Royal Bloodline would find their lineage governed by the relevant ancient texts and might strive to maintain their heritage in ways prescribed in former times. Could their reference text be the Talmud ?

We may well ask ourselves this question because it appears that behind some of the current European Royal Bloodlines, and their Hillbilly descendents across the Atlantic the illegitimate Bloodline offspring who became the American upper class, could very well be the genuine descendents of the original tribes of Judah ? Danmark is named after the Mark of Dan, one of these tribes was the tribe of Dan. Masonic rituals and lore can be found to have numerous elements from the ancient mystery schools as well as hebrew symbols and references, which led to the 19th and 20th century concept of a Judeo-Masonic Conspiracy. However it is a far more complex story. The vast majority of Jews and Israelis are clearly our of the loop. The vast majority of Freemasons are unaware of what goes on above the 32nd Level. It is therefore patently unfair to tax these millions of innocent honest people with plotting against anyone. However, at the top of the Zionist movement - - which isn't specifically Israeli but rather a Bloodline Coup against humanity - - they are preparing an ETHNIC CLEANSING THROUGH GENOCIDE and the establishment of ZION also known as the New World Order.

For investigative balance it is important to inject here the testimonial of an American convert to Judaism regarding the role of the Talmud in contemporary Jewish society:

When he says that "most Jews will not recognize an opinion expressed in the Talmud" he unfortunately fails to consider that those who do accept and obey the directives in that text will not consider him to be Jewish given that he is a convert, in the case that he has no bloodline relation to the original Hebrew lineage. For them, i.e. today's Royal Bloodlines and their Illuminati relatives in Europe and the USA, he is a Goyem, and inpure being worth no more consideration than cattle.

Please remember that these are not the Jewish people or those embracing Judaism. They are a small SECT OF ZIONISTS many of whom are Nordic or Anglo-Saxon. They are neither simply Freemasons, but are the Illuminati who stand atop Freemasonry and exploit the good in their members' vocations to Evil ends. They use subterfuge to despoil and oppress without qualms those unworthy of consideration, those who are not of their Bloodline. The Ancient Talmud is ALIVE and thriving today in the devious minds and murky souls of the Royal Bloodlines and their Cloned Bloodline Leaders. Here we must consider also where these individuals take on their claim to dominance and superiority. It is claimed to be God's will to make them the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" to dominate the Earth.

May I take a moment to disagree. Such rhetoric is typical of Deceit tactics. Tell a people THEY are the chosen ones and you can harness their credulity and manipulate them at will. Hitler is a recent example of this same phenomenon. It was, in my humble opinion, not GOD but Demonic or ALIEN Entities masquerading as God who may have invoked such a preposterous claim - - making this people the terrible instrument of their power and the heartless, soulless arm of their destruction and enslavement of the rest of humanity. The Early Zionists were as complacent, unfeeling, prejudiced, harmful and oppressive as today's Bloodline Illuminati. They were also doing the work of inhuman beings, Alien interferers in human affairs.

So we must examine the Talmud not out of fear or dislike of the Jewish people or religion, but to verify the prescription devised by a small Global Elite of racist European Royal Bloodlines bent upon the genocidal destruction of the rest of humanity and their replacement with a genetically engineered subrace of mind controlled slaves. We should be able to verify that the assigned instructions - - which are presumably so many Pharisee or Babylonian instructions issued by hostile Aliens - - to oppress and rule over humanity until its demise in these forthcoming End Times. The ultimate preparations for that date our precipitating their plans, making them increasingly visible and creating enough confusion to prove that these Elite Bloodlines are merely the executives of the Plan and not those originating it.

They are failing to proceed according to the assigned timeline, yet are unable to make any adjustments, needing instead to postpone phases until the proper predesignated sequencing is engaged. As lofty as they were incited to consider themselves by their manipulators, they are incapable of creative action or genuine initiative. Instead, just like a stupid software program, they execute instructions and await cues prompting the next action. They are TOOLS of an Alien intelligence bent upon using them to economize their own resources, using trickery and deceipt to manipulate events into their Total Power over Earth.

Why invade Earth this way, and not directly ? Who knows ? Why first invade and corrupt the minds and souls ? Possibly because this is where the real Seat of Power lies ?

If you are uncomfortable with the idea that Alien entities might have at one time or another interfered with Earthly affairs, then consider what is in the following documetary on astrophysics: there are 125 billion galaxies, and our Milky Way is not one of the largest ones. Yet our own smallish galaxy has over 200 billion stars most of which are far larger than our Sun. Statistically the odds of Alien life are so evident as to point to a very high statistical probability of Alien visitation of Earth. Also, you may want to take a moment to listen to the documentary from minute 36:45 where they denote a very recent increase in the "feeding" of our own galaxy's Massive Black Hole. This might be cyclical and related to the predited cataclysm of 2012 - 2015 ?

Massive Black Holes at the center of All Galaxies

Google Video Link

The timeline remains to be confirmed, ranging from mid-2011 to 2015 depending on adjustments to calendars. However preparedness had been advancing for the Illuminati themselves with vast underground shelters built for their small minority to protect them, and Barium being sprayed by chemtrails over the ground to reduce radiation penetration. It is purposely that we are not being warned of this impending event, because we are programmed to die by their genocidal plan. As the Talmud says, if the Gentile falls into a well, you must are to remove the ladder. They are simply removing the ladder so that we may perish in the coming cataclysm.

Zion ushered in during the 2012 Olympics

Zion already at work in the 2010 Olympics

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 08:33 AM

Originally posted by someotherguy

David Icke on Satanism - worship of these dark aliens

BTW, the Freemasons who are below 33 degree don't know anything about any of this stuff. 33 degree is by invitation only. George Washington wrote about how the Freemasons had been infiltrated by the Illuminati. So, not all Freemasons are baddies

Hi Someotherguy,

Regarding the involvement of highest degree masons in satanic rituals, I have witnessed this and can therefore attest. The 32nd and lower degree Freemasons are no more Evil or Accountable for their actions than were the various hierarchical levels of officers in the Nazi army. They aren't responsible for what their leaders plotted and planned, yet they remain accountable for executing their orders and being themselves the transmitters and operators of their Evil power over events. Today's Freemasons work for people who are just as dubious, corrupt, occultist and satanist as were the leaders of the Nazi Regime. In both cases their leaders engaged in the practices denouced by David Icke and countless other witnesses, investigators and whistle-blowers.

Of this Steven Greer is surprisingly silent. Of malevolent Alien interference on Earth he is also silent. Of the Elite he only denounces their hiding technology which could be useful to us. He thinks nothing of the EMPIRE of Evil which bears down upon humanity, almost as if he was trying to buy the Illuminati a back door exit in case their plans fall through: they were misoriented and had gone astray, but with good intentions: we were not quite ready to accept or mature enough to handle disclosure. Now that we are they are only too happy to oblige, releasing in a responsible and timely manner those technologies our "shepherds" judge their SHEEP to be able to manage.

Yet the Illuminati Elite are NOT benevolent, nor are their Alien dimensional allies which they conjure up during satanic blood letting of innocent terrorized children. I have witnessed this first hand, and can attest not being able to erase from memory the imploring look from another child being sacrificed. This is why I repeat the important statement about their widespread practice, it is REAL and it is widespread. You must take this under your cap. As distasteful as it seems remember that it is nothing next to witnessing it, and far far less than being on the altar.

The Illuminati-Alien Satinist Pact

David Icke at minute 10:15 states: "Certainly, a lot of the major Royal Palaces are built on these prime sacrificial spots. One that keeps coming up again and again is Balmoral, in Scotland, where the Royal Family goes, of course, every summer. And, so, it surprises me not that people tell me the rituals that go on there. Another place where it seems to go on is Sandringham in Norfolk, and there's many of these places around."


Balmoral Castle

"Along with Sandringham House, Balmoral is the private property of the Queen and is not part of the (government-owned) royal estate." Worth over 200 Million pounds not counting the Estate's 500 acres and 100 surrounding buildings, it is said to house an underground nuclear complex design to house the Royal Family in the event of a cataclysm. We may speculate whether it also comes equipped with a dungeon and proper ceremonial torture center for ritual blood sacrifices.

Sandringham House

Interestingly enough, when you consider Princess Diana's alleged ritual murder under the Illuminati torch over the Alma tunnel, "Diana Frances Spencer was born at Park House on the Queen’s Sandringham estate in Norfolk on July 1st 1961, the third and youngest daughter of Viscount Althorp, later the 8th Earl Spencer, and his first wife Frances Roche".

source: The Goddess and the King

Steven Greer's reference to a "Murder Incorporated" which opposes disclosure of information smacked true, as I convalesce from the aftermath of the medical treatment of a Man in Black Anthrax attack. Maybe this is why others are wisely refraining from posting in this thread. It is a rather sticky issue the disclosure of which displeases those in power to the point of them taking action. So unless you are either casually checking out this thread or are committed to disclosure whatever the cost, then it is probably prudential to refrain from active participation. We can assume that more people lurk here than post, and rightly so.

However, either to avert the risks of his disclosure efforts or for some undisclosed hidden motivation, Doctor Greer seems to have watered down his quest, using pragmatic realpolitik self-censorship in the quest for only one pursuit, that of free energy to the abstraction of the far more important issues pertaining to personal freedoms, forthcoming genocide and totalitarian rule. We are bought off both directly, by the prospect of FREE energy putting our fuel, gas and electricity expenditures back in our pocket, and indirectly with the achievement of today's most politically correct ECOLOGICAL achievement of a clean carbon free planet.

At minute 1:06:00 Steven Greer preaches the New Age Galactic Ecological Communism:

"Because we stand on the morn, the edge of Eternity. A time where this planet will become one of the Great Jewels in the Diadem of the Cosmos. A place of Peace, a place of Abundance, a place of Englightenment. And we and all of us, and our children that are coming behind us, from the other side, we will become ambassadors, in the future, to other worlds that have come this way, and are coming the way we have come. And so the cycle of life continues in the universe, and we are all part of that."

So much for a pseudo-spiritual recuperation of politically motivated individuals who hoped to prevent the onset of a Zionist New World Order. What of our freedoms, what of our enslavement by a heartless inhuman Elite ? Oh, they'll come around, let's just chummy up with benevolent Aliens showing them how we now love our Planet...


It is as if he were trying to "Buy Our Complacency" using achievable ends to dissuade us from becoming "chopped liver". Is he an Agent? Quite possibly. His children attend Yale and Stanford, the two main Illuminati college campuses in the USA. One is home to Skull & Bones. The other to Stanford Research Institute bred from Aleister Crowley's Tavistock Institute and its CIA-Illuminati emanation the Rand Corporation.

My take is Steven Greer is not who he claims to be. He is calling for his own personal "centralization of all free energy designs" prior to them going public. This would be exactly what the NSA or CIA would do, using a shill to get popular resistance movements to reveal their identity by signing petitions and even to turn over their plans by inadvertently entrusting them to one of their agents. "We will be the carrier vehicle to launch it on the world." I would be very wary of the website [ ] because it could very well be an Agency plant. If so, Steven Greer's position at the very heart of the Disclosure Project could spell trouble ? This website wants to know the name and email address of anyone you know who may be interested, the hunt is on.

They have the following INPUT feature at the bottom of their home page:
Tell a friend about The Orion Project: Enter Friend's Email: Press GO


The choice of the name of his website is not a happy one either. I know ORION to be linked in a number of ways to the Illuminati-Alien connection, and it is also the name of a conspiracy revealed here:

The Orion Conspiracy - part 1

The Orion Conspiracy - part 2

The Plot known as the Orion Conspiracy: "Our research group is convinced that UFOs constructed by the Americans or the Russians will be used to conduct a "HOAX ATTACK" on the Earth of Extraterrestrial origin, the Media taking care of the rest, or course. The reason ? Once the threat of International Terrorism had dissipated, the War Economies of the major powers with the United States at the head of the pack, will need a new enemy in order to still prosper. War on Earth will be replaced by a Space War against an enemy from beyond."

So we learn that Orion, the same word used by Steven Greer for his website, is also used to outline what he himself refers to, NASA Nazi rocket scientist Wernher von Braun of Project Paperclip fame, Hitler's Cousin (first cousin of Eva Braun) Wehrner von Braun under the name Project Bluebeam?

Is Project Bluebeam the Grand Deception ?

NASA's Project blue beam 1/2)

NASA's Project blue beam 2/2)

In this final video we learn that well known researcher and whistle-blower Jordan Maxell states at minute 2:00 the opposite:

"I'm of the opinion that possibly THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ALIEN INVASION and the Government knows it. And consequently they are trying to prepare the people so that they don't react."

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posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 08:55 AM
For those not yet aware of the Clone Conspiracy as an intricate component of the Illuminati - Alien pact ushering in a wide scale invasion and ensuing totalitarian New World Order enslavement of the residual survivors, here are some new candidates as mind controlled bio-technically engineered Cloned Leaders.

Here are some pictures of former Prime Minister and 2-term French President Jacques Chirac. It appears that in his sick Illuminati controllers are so self-indulgent and twisted that they sought to directly manifest their Machiavellic mindset: they actually had the nerve to Clone the man himself and place his clone in a top leadership position.

Niccolo Machiavelli and President Jacques Chirac

A profile shot

A further comparison with an interesting history

If you can't remember what Jacques Chirac used to look like when the same age as Machiavelli, then take a look at him during this 1988 debate against acting President and Freemasonry Grand Master Francois Mitterrand, a Nazi collaborator when Minister of the Vichy Government who cloned his own son and nephew and built the Louvre Illuminati Pyramid:

Mitterrand Master Cloner and Chirac cloned from Machiavelli

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posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 09:55 AM
Very good thread, I have been reading for a while now.

We also know of the claims of the Queen of England to be a direct descendent of Salomon. Her coronation throne sits atop the Stone of Destiny from the House of David and the Kings of Judah.

This is also my conclusion, take a look, it can be proved, look for the bit about when masonrie was organised, who organised it, and some of the symbolism with it, with a description.
4th post down, have a good look.

This link is pretty much my same thread but better presented.

This bloodline, goes back further than the tribes, king of all kings, solomon though, back to the Nephilim.

Very good thread, hope to add something, if not learn a few things, star and flagged.

just a little bit for the dawn of a new age.

President George W. Bush on Gog and Magog

The French ex-President Jacques Chirac recounted during an interview with the French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice how the U.S. President George Walker Bush asked him in 2003 during a phone conversation for support of the invasion of Iraq. In Maurice's book Si vous le répétez, je démentirai George W. Bush is documented to have said “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East", "The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled", and "This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”[42]

Yeh I bet Gog and Magog is or was at work, when TPTB got there.

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posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 10:40 AM
Hi Sparkey76,

Welcome to the thread and thanks for your remarks.

Queen Elizabeth II's stone of coronation used by British Royals for centuries - - in evidence of their Zionist origins - - can be seen here, where more information is available:


Gog and Magog are ancient biblical End Times references and they were brought up by George W. Bush in an encounter with Jacques Chirac while visiting the French presidential palace. There was no tricking Machiavelli, and Chirac used this referencing as a pretext to not support the war on Iraq. What was the real reason ? Is there dissension or competition between rival Illuminati groups, as a number of researchers claim ? Or is it a simulated division to muster opposing forces under artificially differentiated Illuminati factions ?

Ancient Babylonian mystery school lore is today an active and ever so present force in world affairs. Mentioning this, or their attachment to cryptic symbology or maniacal numerology makes researchers appear to be deluded Conspiracy Theorists. Yet it is not the researchers who are deluded but the layers of brainwashed Occultist masons and mililtary or intelligence operatives who have been trained to obey such hogwash.

This soup of rotting spoils mashed into their cunning cupid brains has left the Illuminati with precious little common sense beyond blind self-serving personal interest and fear of group reprisal. They operate through fear and fear operates through them. They depend on Magick and demonic helpers because on their own they are impotent, empty, soulless. We are to pity them, had they not so corrupted their destiny as to merit far more severe a sanction. They want to simulate GOG and MAGOG. They are so doing today, preparing as Billy Meier so aptly points out above in his disclosure of the Anglo-Saxon Mission a scenario leading to World War III.

So regardless of whether they are Royal Monarchs, American or European bloodline bastards, Intelligence Agency Accomplices in Crime, Military Pawns, or Political Propagandists - - they must be opposed for their HIGH TREASON AGAINST HUMANITY and their knowing alliance with Alien Invaders or their stupid ignorance of this fact.

Illuminati Initiates have known this for Centuries and Assist in our Enslavement

"This fellow also seems to have an interesting perspective on the issue. According to Michael Tsarion’s analysis of thousands of ancient historical texts (mislabeled as mythological texts), and even the so-called Bible, these aliens were “cast down” here and quarantined for their monstrously evil acts here and perhaps throughout the galaxy--or at least in the area they apparently come from-- Orion. Thus we have the quarantine, or grid, or Bio-net that is specific to these aliens AND also to humans, as they used some of their own DNA in making us."

Source: The Anonymous Physicist

"Sitchin also has claimed that the Sumerian “bible” states that our creators left the Earth, and return every 3600 years when their planet “Niburu” itself returns. I believe this is misinformation or disinformation. Our evil creators have never left. They have always been here, quarantined, but in charge of humanity since creating us to be their slaves. And when blasted from above, they escape (total) destruction, due to their hiding in deep underground bases. Whereas Mankind repeatedly gets wiped out, or nearly so, as described above."

This analysis clinches in almost too cleanly with what we know of the current Illuminati plans for 2012 sheltered within their underground bunkers just like they once took refuge in the last such event in Urcos, Peru 16 miles from Cusco.


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posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 11:03 AM
Illuminati Practice Runs: TRIAL CLONES

Regarding the last of the above photo comparison of Jacques Chirac and Machiavelli, I noted that it was historically interesting. This is because I believe that it reveals that today's Cloned Leaders may have been preceded by a series of "TEST CLONES" which were used to verify the effects of cloning before issuing the final series of Clones destined to become Political Leaders or Media Celebrities.

William Mortensen as Machiavelli

This image is considered to have led to his rejection by the community of art photographers, under its publication on the following link you can read:

" One of many historical themes by Mortensen which made him reviled among modernist photographers and excluded from the history books."

We would be well advised to take this interpretation with caution: it is far more likely that the Illuminati didn't take well to his revealing in this altogether too direct a fashion his Cloned Heritage. This led to his exclusion from the profession and blanket rejection from the official historians of art - - all accordingly acting under Illuminati control as usual.

Apparently early 20th Century photographer William Mortensen was aware of his lineage with Machiavelli, and he portrayed himself photographically as his direct Genitor in that image. He is, incidentally, also the spitting image of Jacques Chirac, the operative Cloned Leader derived from Machiavelli. Mortensen was apparently used as strictly a Clone Prototype for study and testing purposes.

Monsters and Madonnas - Looking at William Mortensen

Closer inspection of his work in the above link shows recurring Illuminati satanic references to sacrificial virgins, torture and demonic monsters. He also represents his own likeness in many of the victims of cruelty and the monsters of his works. His persona was obviously not left intact by the Illuminati who not only cloned him but obviously subjected him to their Satanic practices.

Like for many clones, such as Barack Obama, it isn't easy retracing their steps or investigating their origins. Here is what Larry Lytle, one of William Mortensen's biographers, says:

"Five years ago, I decided to spend as much of my free time seriously researching Mortensen's life and work as I could, with the goal of writing a biography and critical reevaluation of his work. Never having attempted something of this magnitude before, I naively thought that it would take a year or so to accomplish. As I got into the basic fact-finding part—when he was born, where he lived, and so on—I realized that that alone would take several years to accomplish. Records were difficult to come by; fires had wiped out his birth, school, and military records. Tracking down marriage, divorce, and death certificates has been an odyssey."

About "Command to Look" - part 1

About "Command to Look" - part 2

Interestingly also was Mortensen's choice of the name of his second book publishing his work and artistic approach: Command to Look.

The choice of both the Title and of the Subject illustrating the cover may remind us of the Tavistock and CIA MK-ULTRA Mind Control projects, where drug induced hypnosis and Torture Trauma was inflicted on young children while associated with the COMMAND TO LOOK.

posted on Mar, 4 2010 @ 02:53 AM
GS, I think you're right to be suspicious of Greer. If disclosure is so important to him, why doesn't he just disclose already, rather than give the government a year or however long to disclose? I highly doubt the Orion connection was a coincidence.

IMO, Jordan Maxwell is also disinfo. It's nothing I can prove, he just seems sketchy to me.

posted on Mar, 4 2010 @ 04:54 AM

Originally posted by someotherguy
GS, I think you're right to be suspicious of Greer. If disclosure is so important to him, why doesn't he just disclose already, rather than give the government a year or however long to disclose? I highly doubt the Orion connection was a coincidence.

IMO, Jordan Maxwell is also disinfo. It's nothing I can prove, he just seems sketchy to me.

Hi Someotherguy,

You're definitely not just some other guy, what with all the insight and hard hitting analyses you share with us here. My impression of Steven Greer was due to several factors, some of a technical nature and others more subjective.

1. Rightly I recognize the role he has taken in the disclosure project. I don't however find it such a positive reference that people he planned to interview or associated with met with an untimely demise. It could be coincidence, or that he is being shadowed and monitored.

2. He wants to centralize a grass roots process on the basis that he is "well connected" with The Powers That Be. He claims to have briefed Obama, but all that this takes is to send Obama a letter titled "Executive Briefing".

3. His "hoped to be Obama sanctioned" project can presumably protect us and our Free Energy initiatives, because he has the know-how, wherewithal and lofty contacts in the right places to ensure our safety and the survival of our inventions, while the Military-Industrial-Alien Complex won't be able to effectively interfere with us. This is quite a claim, even if not stated in such clear terms.

4. The Orion website he encourages all to visit has an entry box where you are solicited to type in the email addresses of any of your friends who might be interested. Even if his project is innocent of any low motivations, this presents a high risk of agency hackers copying this list of alternative energy militants, a high risk unnecessary measure when all you'd have to do is copy the URL of his website and email it to your friends.

5. Steven Greer concludes his speech with a demagogic inspirational vision of a Green world in a Cosmic Brotherhood. Such an Eco-Spiritual Crusade is very far indeed from the greater aims of the Truth and Disclosure movement. While most may be, as are countless other citizens, quite concerned with our environment, there are quite a few problems which Free Energy cannot solve. Totalitarian New World Order in a perfect Free Energy planet doesn't sound like Cosmic Heaven to me.

6. Once his speech ended he didn't seem genuinely moved by the crowd's acclaim, and - - subjectively to this viewer (please note this precision) - - looked surly or cocky as if he had them right where he wanted them, mission accomplished.

Regarding Jordan Maxwell, I don't have the same apprehensions as you, but do notice that he tends to legitimize the Truth that what Project BlueBeam is said to promote, a fake Alien Invasion to deceive us, is in fact a Real Alien Invasion. If we are to believe that the ORION CONSPIRACY is a genuine conspiracy to deceive us, then Jordan Maxwell is prompting us into accepting that same version. His statements are debunking the debunkers, and are thus in direct alignment with the original version of the War of the Worlds which Orson Wells brought to notoriety in the 1930's.

Whether sincere or not, Jordan Maxwell's interpretation of a double deceit means that the Alien Invasion scenario stems from a genuine Government desire to disclose to us that we are about to be invaded. Given the history of Government disclosure, I will let you each conclude the likeliness of such a position.

posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 11:55 AM


Cloned Leader GORDON BROWN is a Pedophile !

Like many of his Cloned Leader counterparts, Gordon Brown who was Cloned from George Monck has been revealed to be a Satanist Pedophile.


Revealed: British Premier Gordon Brown Is A Paedophile

By Mike James in Germany – 28 February 2010

Click HERE for Article

He is also reportedly linked to the Masonic “Speculative Society” lodge network which was involved in the Dunblane Massacres, ending in the assassination by a Pedophile Freemason of 16 schoolchildren who had been sexually abused by these satanic masons in Scotland. The DNA donor for Gordon Brown was George Monck, a Scottish servant of the British Crown.

Gordon Brown and George Monck

So we can confirm that we are not in very safe hands with such political representation. Who or WHAT has been Cloning these Pedophiles and Who or WHAT is controlling them while depriving us of our freedoms ?

Should we therefore be surprised that Queen Elizabeth II has made statements to the effect that, not only does she not herself wield such great powers, but that we would be most startled if we knew who really does.

To me this confirms that Earth has been taken over by some Alien power not visible to the naked eye or which hides in plain sight among us. If they were just "The Watchers" evoked by the All-Seeing-Eye, it wouldn't be a pretty picture. But Cosmic Peeping Toms are the least of our worries. It appears that these Intriguing Cloners and Controllers are not simply floating around watching us. For not only are they meddling in our affairs, they are stepping up their plans to stage a wide-scale takeover of Earth under the guise of a praiseworthy Eco-Responsible New World Order bringing peace and security to humanity. Using their patsy Cloned Leaders as facilitators and their duplicitous manipulated masonic accomplices as shadow soldiers, these Alien Invaders are the pending threat to our destiny, they are indubitably the ones to whom QEII was referring.

We must guard our rears with the rising suspicion that nearly all of these Cloned Leaders or Celebrities are satanists, pedophiles and mind controlled Alien tools bent on bringing forth Helter Skelter. Some believe that the CERN particle accelerator on the Franco-Swiss border is advancing that goal, trying to use physics to open a portal to Hell. Given The overwhelming political support and funding given to this project by Cloned Leaders makes this suggestion far from incongruous.

Let us only hope it is not true or, if true, that it fails !

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posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Getsmart

.... My impression of Steven Greer was due to several factors, some of a technical nature and others more subjective.

1. Rightly I recognize the role he has taken in the disclosure project. I don't however find it such a positive reference that people he planned to interview or associated with met with an untimely demise. It could be coincidence, or that he is being shadowed and monitored.

Willliam Colby, for ex, who was the victim of an unfortunate "boating accident."

...Once they find something that works, that is what they do. So,
again and again CIA officials have been caused to "disappear" or
have been murdered. It is better than having to make messy
explanations. A favorite cover story is the boat scenario or the
plane crash, actually sabotaged...

...Former CIA Director William Colby was too involved. So, the
mysterious "they" used the boat trick, to make him disappear or
for murder.

At the time of his disappearance, Colby was under Congressional
subpoena to testify. Some believe his testimony could have put
Bill and Hillary Clinton in prison...

By Sherman H. Skolnick

4. The Orion website he encourages all to visit has an entry box where you are solicited to type in the email addresses of any of your friends who might be interested.

Supposedly, when there are solicitations at the end of UFO shows to call in & share your experiences, it is to gather info about who knows what.

I thought you might like this article:

The Queen's loyal serpent: 400 years on, a painted-over snake reappears on portrait of Elizabeth I
Last updated at 7:42 AM on 05th March 2010
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As many a courtier fatally found out, it was never a good idea to displease the Virgin Queen.
Which may explain why an artist carried out some serious alterations to his first draft portrait of Elizabeth I back in the 16th century.
Where he had drawn the Queen clutching a serpent, the painter had second thoughts and substituted a much more feminine bunch of roses...

Read more:

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posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 04:35 PM
Very interesting thead.

posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 05:36 PM

Originally posted by someotherguy
...Once they find something that works, that is what they do. So,
again and again CIA officials have been caused to "disappear" or
have been murdered. It is better than having to make messy
explanations. A favorite cover story is the boat scenario or the
plane crash, actually sabotaged...

...Former CIA Director William Colby was too involved. So, the
mysterious "they" used the boat trick, to make him disappear or
for murder.

At the time of his disappearance, Colby was under Congressional
subpoena to testify. Some believe his testimony could have put
Bill and Hillary Clinton in prison...

Hi Someotherguy, as ever loyal to the research in this thread ~

I know you have your own dedicated thread here in the Skunk Works section at ATS investigating how the CIA assassinates people, and then replaces them with impostors. However, they and others sometimes also do plain and simple brass tacks murders without such frills.

In suite to the silencing of William Colby, we may take a moment to consider the implications of the equally shocking death of General Vernon Walters in the midst of his interview by the European ARTE television team during their filming of the documentary The Dark Side of the Moon. He died hours after promising to reveal the next day very deep secrets about what was really up. He said it would cause a serious problem, but upon the journalists' insistence he agreed to drop the ball the following day but failed: he never made it. Note Vernon Walter's comments in the following video at minute 5:00.

The Dark Side of the Moon

"It's the actual testimony from Kissinger, the late Vernon Walters (speaking in Russian, and dead, under suspicious circumstances, just hours after conducting his interview for the film), Rumsfeld ("I'm going to tell you a fascinating story"), Eagleberger, Haig and others - real people in real interviews, not actors playing a role - that brings Dark Side of the Moon to life. (A cynic would point out that their comments are edited out of context, but then a cynic would already have guessed that the Apollo moon landing was staged, so why bother?)"

The Facts Don't Lie, but the Camera May

What this reveals is that the Apollo Moon landing was faked by Stanley Kubrick, leading to a manhunt ended by the silencing of his staff as well as the ensuing "bunker lifestyle" of this recluse film-maker who almost never again left the safety of his protected estate. His choice of the sensitive topic of Illuminati masonic satanic rituals, in Eyes Wide Shut, likely brought upon him the same fate as General Vernon Walters. Masons take their oaths of silence very seriously, and their acolytes in alphabet agency wet teams do the mopping up for them.

The faked moon landing could be for several reasons. The first is that the Van Allen radiation belt is a torus of energetic charged particles (plasma) around Earth, which is held in place by Earth's magnetic field and would irradiate astronauts which pass through it. But this could be minimized by taking off from the Earth's magnetic axis. The second is that Gamma rays in space would kill poorly protected astronauts in outer space. While this danger seems insufficiently addressed by NASA's official space program we can guess that the REAL space program uses higher technology. The third is that we were reportedly "warned off the moon: by its occupants, requiring a cover up with fake lunar landing footage. Given the great number of UFO sightings in recent decades this last thesis bears more weight.

Originally posted by someotherguy
I thought you might like this article:

Read more:

This painting is interesting, as it reveals that presumptions of reptilian heritage of that Royal Bloodline are not entirely fallacious. Some may conclude that she owned a pet snake, but it is hardly likely. The snake isn't a likeness of any real animal but is clearly a representation of an imaginary serpent signifying the clever one which tricks humanity into sin. It is also interesting to see that it was covered with a Rose, we do happen to know the significance of that symbol since the Rose Cross and Rosicrucians brought it notoriety. Incidentally roses are said to be the only natural fragrance dense enough to be capable of masking the smell of sulfur which, uncannily, a considerable number of Alien encounters mention as the characteristic scent of our strange visitors.

UFOs, Do they Smell? The Sulphur Enigma of Paranormal Visitation

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posted on Mar, 5 2010 @ 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Arimbari
Very interesting thead.

Thanks for your comments Arimbari, and I love that Avatar.


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