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Topic started on 26-10-2009 @ 03:21 AM by alyosha1981

The Anasazi are perhaps the most romanticized of the prehistoric Southwestern pueblo cultures. They lived thousands of years ago in arid, yet beautiful canyon country. They 'disappeared' or migrated to the larger southwestern Hopi, Zuni and other pueblos in about 1300 AD and left behind thousands of rock art paintings [pictographs] and carvings [petroglyphs] along with the stone dwellings and graineries [storage bins]. Anasazi, which means 'ancient stranger or enemy' in the Navajo language, was used by the Navajo people to name the early pueblo dwellers who once lived in the Colorado Plateau or Four Corners Area. The Hopi who are the likely descendents of the Anasazi called these predecessors the "Hisatsinom." The NPS and archaeologists are currently calling these people the Pueblo Dwellers

Wiki anaszi

Where did the ancient anasazi people get the ideas for some of their cave drawings? I will present some examples and point out the (sometimes obvious) reasons why I pose the question; Were the Anasazi visited by E.T's.

The image above shows two humanoid figures, you will notice that both of the figures posses a smaller head with a large body( possible suit) with helmets off?
Both have triangle shaped bodies not typical of human bodies. They also both appear to be carrying some sort of item (possible helmet)
The figures are similer to one another and pictured facing the artist.

here we have another humanoid figure, with features unlike human features.

This figure has a bulbous head with a small body, (possible diferent kind of E.T?)

The above image contains an object in the top left corner that appears to be hovering above the landscape with some kind of possible energy eminating from below it. Hanging from the object is what appears to be some sort of antenna!
The object to the right, I have no guess as to what it could be

I believe these objects and figues were things that the ancients witnessed but had no other way of comprehending, so they recorded what they saw on the caves and rocks that surrounded them. Nature doesn't contain shapes like those pictured and humans certainly don't look like the ones pictured.

This picture dipicts figures standing together, the tallest of them resembles the discriptions given of reptile type E.T's. I would love to hear your thoughts and opinions on this facinating subject

Rock art of the southwest

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:51 AM by chrisd250

very interesting, i believe i saw something about this on history channel or national geographic about "ancient astronauts"?....good find....i definatly think ancient civilizations saw things similar to what we see today, maybe even more so...of course, they only had one way to record what they encountered, so they drew or painted it on the walls....who knows, maybe they were just imaginative....totally looks like spacemen tho=) good find s and f

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:03 AM by babyjayjay

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 04:25 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by chrisd250

Ya I saw the show as well, they focused on the sumerians, and that is well known. I just did some digging with these people in mind and this is what I came up with, although I've always been interested in any contact the ancients had with visitors

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:12 AM by Orion65

I think the ancient astronauts speculation is very intriguing (and it sounds right to me). Look at various rock drawings all over the world and they have a very similar theme - strange beings who look nothing like humans or animals.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:18 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by Orion65

Well said

I believe that the spread of these types of drawings world wide is no coincidence and that people drew what they saw weather it be bison,fish, or other things they couldn't explain.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:28 AM by pieman

Originally posted by alyosha1981
I believe that the spread of these types of drawings world wide is no coincidence and that people drew what they saw weather it be bison,fish, or other things they couldn't explain.

what about the stuff they imagined?
wouldn't it be normal for humans to draw monsters and gods along with bison and fish?

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:53 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by pieman

What answer can I give to do justice to your valid question?

I suppose, that the ancients could very well have concieved drawings out of imagination alone, however the similarities between drawings spaced out by thousands of miles and hundreds of years seem to support the idea of visitors from off world.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:28 AM by pieman

Originally posted by alyosha1981
the similarities between drawings spaced out by thousands of miles and hundreds of years seem to support the idea of visitors from off world.

then again, it's just as reasonable to say that the beings all look quite a lot like people, so the similarities aren't all that remarkable. if they all featured beings with three extra limbs shaped like question marks and a head that dangled between their legs, that would be remarkable.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:34 AM by Ridhya

Horned helmets, shields, bulk? Armour maybe? Looks more like they met the Norsemen to me... and yes there is such thing as horned helmets it is not total myth.

Your second pic definitely looks like reindeer horn to me.

Technically they would be 'aliens' too!

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:39 AM by pieman

reply to post by Ridhya

that was my first thought aswell but there are no axes, spears or swords featured and head dresses using animal horns are not unusual.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:44 AM by alyosha1981

Originally posted by pieman

then again, it's just as reasonable to say that the beings all look quite a lot like people, so the similarities aren't all that remarkable. if they all featured beings with three extra limbs shaped like question marks and a head that dangled between their legs, that would be remarkable.

But what about the triangle shaped bodies? or the mishapen heads? short arms and legs? I am not convinced these are traits they saw in other people. A circle is quite simple to draw (our head) these heads are not circular.

A torso is relativly simple as well, but a triangle is what is clearly drawn with no mistake, hardly resembling ours

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:51 AM by alyosha1981

reply to post by Ridhya

I believe you are using an example form well beyond the time period of the Anasazi they were not known to utilize armor.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 07:48 AM by pieman

Originally posted by alyosha1981
But what about the triangle shaped bodies? or the mishapen heads? short arms and legs? I am not convinced these are traits they saw in other people.

stylistics?

the drawings look like a person in the same way as this is an image of two horsemen and a deer.

i don't believe they were trying to depict a life like figure although some of their drawings suggest they were able to. i believe they were depicting their view of the world. it's the same way newspapers use cartoons to portray a far more accurate view of politics that they could never achieve with a photograph.

I believe you are using an example form well beyond the time period of the Anasazi they were not known to utilize armor.

they weren't known to have been regularly visited by aliens either

what's the period of the anasazi? according to the wiki link in the OP, the norse seem to fit the dates.

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 08:26 AM by Darkside Agent

reply to post by alyosha1981

Great pics, hadnt seen them before

I think there is a possibility that they are drawings of 'visitors' to our planet, its a shame we will never really know.

They could also just be a cartoon type drawing of its time (as mentioned by another poster - pieman) but i do find it interesting how these types of pictures are repeated across the world by different civilisations in a very similar format....of course that could mean that it was just the level of drawing skill for that time and they all found the same things interesting to draw...but being a person that believes in other life not on earth, im going to say: its very possible they are et's.

s&f for bringing this up, gonna see if i can come up with some comparisons from different cultures

edit for spelling

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 08:34 AM by DaddyBare

Growing up not far from Chaco Canyon I was taught a couple of things
My grandfather used to claim the Kiva's (Round rooms) were used for more than simple prayers and ceremonies... he claimed the Anasazi could used those rooms to go to other worlds... you do have to wonder if any of that is true as many of those room have no doors or windows to get in and out of them....

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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 08:53 AM by Ridhya

Originally posted by pieman
that was my first thought aswell but there are no axes, spears or swords featured and head dresses using animal horns are not unusual.

Oh, I know, animal horns et cetera are found all over the world, you know, you just see what you know best

In that first picture it just looks to me like a shield in the left hand, and maybe holding something else with the shield (common of the Norsemen) and the right hand, I first thought was a bow (because it is not solid) but thinkit could be a different weapon? Or even a drinking horn! Or 'calling' horn (like the Gjaller horn!)

Originally posted by alyosha1981
I believe you are using an example form well beyond the time period of the Anasazi they were not known to utilize armor.

Just according to wikipedia (I know not a great source)

The period from 700-1130 AD saw a rapid increase in population

Which was... well EXACTLY the times of the Greenland sagas and all, plus their directions were based on even older, I think it is possible for a discovery well before the 'Viking age' even... Proto-Norse discovery?

It will interest you to see, I have a pic of an ooooold-ass Norwegian carving and all the characters look pretty alien - in fact I am certain the ancient astronaut folks would immediately say alien - their heads look like two triangles together, and some would shout almond eyes or such. I think it could be but pieman is right they did plenty of stylised drawings, there and all over the world... think of cartoons today, 4 fingered people? Aliens might see the Simpsons and think they are not us, yellow skin, 4 fingers, circle eyes, etc etc. Just saying.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 09:26 AM by pieman

reply to post by Ridhya

i thought the discs hanging from the heads of the figures in the first picture was interesting too, i think the vikings used to glue their coins to their hair and beards and it makes for an interesting detail.

another thing i noticed, when you mentioned "bow", might the two gentlemen in the first drawing be holding crossbows?

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 09:46 AM by TXRabbit

Originally posted by DaddyBare
Growing up not far from Chaco Canyon I was taught a couple of things
My grandfather used to claim the Kiva's (Round rooms) were used for more than simple prayers and ceremonies... he claimed the Anasazi could used those rooms to go to other worlds... you do have to wonder if any of that is true as many of those room have no doors or windows to get in and out of them....

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He could also have meant that they entered a meditative trance-like state.

reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 02:34 PM by DaddyBare

reply to post by TXRabbit

No he didn't... In our Apache Origin stories we do not come from this earth but from some other place... depending on tribe there is any where from three to eight worlds... there are long epic stories about our arrival here ...
Kokopelli according to some of the older stories was there to greet humans and teach us how to live here...

What grandpa was referring to was another old myth... that there are other tribes on other planets (Star Tribes) long time ago we used to visit them and they us...

The Hopi Myth (Blue Star Dancer) continues this saga, taking man kind (One man One Woman) off to the next world where the cycle starts again

sorry for all the edits I have a cold and the NyQuil is getting to me

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