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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:59 AM by XXXN3O
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There is no big secret, only understanding or lack of it.

Many things are repackaged as conspiracy and that leads people down the wrong road where few find the answers.

Nobody that is on this earth has power over anyone else unless the other person allows it. It may appear that another does but thats just an individual perception because the person allows it.

Heres a tiny example of what I am talking about, if I made a thread on this site saying that everyone has a God given right to grow their own corn, the thread would be flooded by regulations on how crops cannot be grown without proper compliances and adhering to regulations. It is the same with everything, its the people that maintain the systems in place not the elites.

Think about it, were these so called "elites" telling me anything there? Nope.

Just remember that all this information, while it can be useful in more ways than one it can also be harmful in more ways than one. You do not need all the information to have understanding.

Death is something that is guaranteed for everyone on this planet, it is the most certain thing that there is, if you are going to die, it might be a logical step to find out what happens when you die would it not? Many shy away from death in fear when it should be the opposite, human beings find comfort in certainty after all?

If you find out what happens when you die, you will then know that theres nothing to be afraid of on this earth because it cannot destroy what you are.

It is your choice whether you live on or die, nobody can make that for you but they can distract you.

Everyone allows this and they do it because they are afraid.

Get rid of your fear and this whole thing becomes nothing worth noticing, its actually quite ridiculous that everyone feels worthless and helpless. It needs to stop because the people who feel like that are falling prey and killing themselves.

I mean, if you listen to a bully tell you how big and strong he is all day, if you ever try to tackle him he will most likely kick your butt as you are scared. Dont listen to him and he is powerless.

I hope that makes sense to you, I could go on all day with examples but I think I have said enough.



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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 05:11 AM by atswheat
Originally posted by LegitPiMPz
If only we knew who the Elite were, or whoever pulls the strings, would we be able to stop them?


Here's a good place to start:

Bibliotecapleyades.net

And a second link:

Committeeof300.blogspot.com

I believe Benjamin Fulford was the first to submit the Committee of 300 list.

There's so much rampant criminality in all of our public institutions that it might as well be the list of 300,000. It's a mess too incomprehensibly large to sort out.

We just can't expect the same institutions these folks run, the same legal system, to go after its own. We've been duped on a phenomenal scale - they run everything.

The universe seems to be doing a very thorough job, however, in doing just that from the inside out.

In a sense, every individual who has taken the wrong path has almost set themselves up for failure. It's like a cosmic time bomb - or time bombs, that are detonating here and there...Very rapidly now.

If there wasn't a sort of divine providence that appears to be acting now, it's hard to imagine where we'd be.

One doesn't need to have faith to believe this. It's their own mainstream media (and our media, the Internet) virtually every day. We are almost spectators in this.

We just have to wait and see what else is coming down the pike.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 06:19 AM by TarzanBeta
reply to post by LegitPiMPz




There is always someone bigger.

There is always someone stronger.



reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 08:43 AM by SmokeJaguar67
Originally posted by LegitPiMPzIf only we knew who the Elite were, or whoever pulls the strings, would we be able to stop them?I mean would this secret insane power still continue? Or would it die?


I expect that it is not as simple as that. The Elite have been in business for such a long time that they will have thought of most of the possibilities that could see them unravel. They will have compartmentalised and tightly wound their infrastructure to the point that if one part of it falls then another will kick up a gear to pick up the slack until it can fully recover.

Originally posted by LegitPiMPzIts funny, because the puppets, which are the Politicians and whatnot, think that we are their slaves, but they themselves are slaves to the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, etc.. and perhaps even the Rockefellers are slaves to some other crazy "powerful" guy.


Yes I detest politicians and see them as the real underclass in society but they have the power and I and you are at their whim like it or not. I have always seen them as puppets, taking orders from the real power brokers at the top and that is exactly why I detest politicians. To my mind politicians probably know or suspect the real nature of the game but continue to kowtow and play their sick little part.

Originally posted by LegitPiMPzWhy would they want to obey this person at the top? After all, they are still the slaves to him, is that how they want to live?


Power tends to corrupt or at the very least puts a different slant on the realities of life. Maybe they are simply given a taste of the game by those above them and perhaps the illusion of power that they have is urging them on to gain even more by serving the insane people above them. I do not really care I just know I reject it and one day hope to see them forced to account.

Originally posted by LegitPiMPzOnly we and the damn military can do anything to stop the elite, but the military is too brainwashed or afraid to do anything, and the people have no idea what is going on in this world.


I was in the military and I can assure you that the average Joe in the military machine is just concerned with following his or her orders without having anything roll down on top of him/her. Officers are a different ball game but saying that, I have known many great officers and many officers I used to daydream about meeting in the street because I held a grudge toward their arrogant incompetence.

No brainwashing in the military as far as I can remember, just people kept out of the loop and kept busy doing their day to day jobs.

Originally posted by LegitPiMPzI know this is against the TOS, but if I knew the whereabouts of the NWO, I would get rid of them to save billions, because apparently, the NWO really doesnt give a damn about anyone but themselves, and their worthless money they created. I cant believe that they would care more about belongings than making this planet better.


You cannot get rid of them as easily as you might think and to think it as easy is that is to endanger yourself and your kin because a man should underestimate their enemy at their peril. Assume they have highly trained killers at their disposal, assume they will introduce you to assisted suicide and your families too because they are in this game to win at all costs and nothing and no person no matter how proficient is going to get between them and the final destination.

They are so well financed they can pretty much do whatever they like – and get away with it.

Originally posted by LegitPiMPzIn the end, the problem is us and the puppets that we like to think are legit, we are the ones that gladly become slaves to the few at the top, in which no one knows.


Many are unwitting puppets I agree with that but thanks to the internet, I think the Elite are growing much more concerned because many people are waking up to their reality and many people are choosing to one day make a stand because the educated populations are starting to see the truth and slowly but surely the knowledge that hidden forces have been working against us all these years are forcing a critical mass in human consciousness.

Another false flag event just might backfire on the Elite and forced a critical mass within those they have chosen to underestimate and happily I think the Elite know this.

The time will be chosen by us and they will be brought to account for their crimes it just seems unlikely right now because we are still under their heel thus our perceptions are skewed!


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:30 AM by hhcore
Originally posted by XXXN3O
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post by LegitPiMPz




Death is something that is guaranteed for everyone on this planet, it is the most certain thing that there is, if you are going to die, it might be a logical step to find out what happens when you die would it not? Many shy away from death in fear when it should be the opposite, human beings find comfort in certainty after all?

If you find out what happens when you die, you will then know that theres nothing to be afraid of on this earth because it cannot destroy what you are.

It is your choice whether you live on or die, nobody can make that for you but they can distract you.
[edit on 26-10-2009 by XXXN3O]



While I agree with you 100%.... and I do - I think the only thing that makes people hesitate on your train of thought, including me, is - not the death part. That is guaranteed whether you like it or not. It is the potential pain and suffering leading up to the death part. Other than that, I'm on side with you. Everyone puts their pants on one leg at a time.

Oh yeah... the distraction is what gives the power mongers control. It's the one thing that makes me deviate from your theory. Stupid as it sounds, it does. I do try to not let it though, but not always successful.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 11:03 AM by Someone336
Here is two places to look:

Le Cercle

From wikipedia:

Le Cercle is a foreign policy think-tank specialising in international security. Set up after World War II, the group has members from twenty-five countries and meets at least bi-annually, in Washington, D.C.

The group's current chairman is Norman Lamont, former British Chancellor of the Exchequer. Lamont worked at Rothschild's and is a member of the Privy Council.


and the big one, the Pilgrim's Society

wikipedia: says:

The Pilgrims Society, founded in 1902, is a British-American society established, in the words of American past-president Joseph Choate, 'to promote good-will, good-fellowship, and everlasting peace between the United States and Great Britain'. Over the years it has boasted an elite membership of politicians, diplomats, businessmen, and writers. It is notable for holding dinners to welcome into office each successive U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom and each new British Ambassador to the United States. The patron of the society is Queen Elizabeth II.


Just looking at the membership lists of these two secretive groups is enough to make the most hardened skeptic paranoid (that said, I don't believe in any NWO. I do believe in a greed driven elite though).

Le Cercle membership list

Pilgrim's Society membership list

Above somebody said that the elite comes from the Federal Reserve. I suggest they look at this:

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence

From the Pilgrim's Society article:

The founding of the Federal Reserve system in the United States in 1913, which is often portrayed as a banker's conspiracy, can also be traced to members of the Pilgrims. The conspiracy centered on a meeting at Jekyll Island in November 1910 in which leading bankers worked out the details of setting up a privately-owned central bank in the United States. Those that attended were Senator Nelson Aldrich, whose daughter married John D. Rockefeller, Jr. in 1901 and who was the person to introduce the banker's plan to Congress; Frank Vanderlip, president of the Rockefellers' National City Bank; Henry Davison, a partner of J.P. Morgan & Co. and a representative of the Astor interests; Charles Norton, president of the Morgan-dominated First National Bank of New York; Benjamin Strong, Jr. vice president of the Banker's Trust of New York, also controlled by the Morgans; and Paul Warburg, a partner in Kuhn, Loeb & Co. Pilgrims researcher Charles Savoie has labeled virtually all of the Jekyll Island visitors as Pilgrims. This author has not seen the original sources in this case, but it is clear that many descendents, family members and business partners of the Jekyll Island conspirators have appeared in the Pilgrims. Among the descendants and families have been Benjamin Strong, Frank Vanderlip, Jr., the Warburg family and many Aldriches. The financial advisor to Senator Nelson Aldrich, Alfred L. Aiken, was a Pilgrim, and so was Aldrich's associate in Congress, Edward B. Vreeland. Paul Warburg's partners at Kuhn, Loeb, Jacob Schiff and Otto Kahn, were both Pilgrims, just as members of the Rockefeller, Morgan and Astor families. Since then Pilgrims have dominated the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and also had considerable presence on the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC), the main body of the Federal Reserve that decides on monetary policy. In other words, the Pilgrims are very relevant to the history of the Federal Reserve and the financial history of the United States.



reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 12:13 PM by nh_ee
The Rothschilds are part of the original 13 families/ founders of the Illuminati in Germany and today own practically all of the wealth in the world today.
They were also instrumental in the use of the secrecy of the masonic order to conceal the Illuminati when they were forced underground by the then king of France.
They're the premier fanciers of all of our wars as well as most of the founding monopolies here in the United States.

The Rockefellers received their original loans from the Rothschilds, forming Standard Oil as well as Andrew Carnegie, with US Steel AND the Harrimans who created the Union Pacific Railroad.

The Rothschilds are the original money lenders who made their wealth by lending to Governments secured by the tax revenues of the nation going back to 18th century europe when they lent money to the King of Denmark.
Sound familiar ? Well it should because practically every nations central bank uses this principal of finances as well as to why we have the Federal Reserve Bank (which as we know is privately owned modeled after Englands Bank of England) AND the Internal Revenue Service. Which guarantees the loan secured by the tax revenues....get it ?

The Rothschilds were also instrumental in acquiring the land
in Palestine that was used to form Israel. It was taken in essentially a foreclosure from the Turkish Ottoman empire (whom were allied with Germany) after WWI for defaulting on their loans.

As Mayer Amschel Rothschild had said...

"Give me control of a nation's money
and I care not who makes the laws."
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