Child Protective Services give more rights to Illegal Aliens, page 1
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Topic started on 25-10-2009 @ 11:26 PM by sirbikesalot06
This is the truth and I need all your help to re do this right.

My girlfriend had her son taken away from by CPS and given to the Abuser. Really. This happen to her because she was hit by the father and she decided to hit back against the abuser. But it wasn't the man who was put into handcuffs, it was the one who lost the fight and get this, she's in a wheelchair. After that fateful day back on Aug 3rd, she has only seen her son a handful of times.
The CPS investigator never contacted her except once. Never interviewed her doctors, never ever even interviewed her friends and the people she meets on a regular basis. For these people would have told of a happy little boy who stayed with his mother while she went to her doctors; went shopping and would ride on the her powered wheelchair. She has a bad back. For the CPS investigator never did. now she goes to these same places and every one ask her, where Poncho, where's Poncho. And she cries because she doesn't know where he is. He's only 3 1/2 yrs old. And she calls and calls the CPS investigator but Tanja, the mother only gets the answering machine.

Back in September, I started to put craigslist adds for prayers because thats all I could do. And since that day, she has only seen her son a handfull of times. Raul, the Father, refuses to let mother and son visit. He's and Illegal Alien from Mexico. Also since that day, the Investigator has finally given the casy to Family Base Services. That was Monday October 19th. But since that day we haven't seen or even heard anything back from the Case Investigator or the Family base social worker.

The last several Visit were anything but nice. I saw the Father and the contempt he has in his eyes towards Tanja. On October 20th, They had a visit. But this time a nun I met accompanied Tanja. She spoke in Spannish with Raul. After that visit, she told me that Raul goal is to become a legal citizen in the US. That is why he met Tanja and fathered a Child with her. Now since Tanja won't comply with his demands, he now hold the son hostage with Child Procetive Services Help. The Sister told me that Raul only sees the son as a piece of property and told her that he'll take him back to Mexico to work on his farm.

Since that visit by both CPS and the Mother and son visit, nothing has happened. So Now, since I'm vurtually powerless to do anything but to ask all of you who read this message to pray for the safe return of Poncho to this mother. And to do this consciousness experiment at 5pm Central Standard time everday until Poncho comes home.

Please Follow these Steps...
1.Close your eyes and clear your mind. Empty it of thoughts.
2.Focus on the Mother, Tanja being with her son Poncho back home with his mother. 3.Do this for at least 5 minutes or so for at least a week. Or please do it until He's home with his mother.


This is all I can do, so I hope all who reads this sends it out to everyone they know.

Thanks for all of your help. This is the only think I can do to help her in this method. I have help her to get her own place and I help her with food and money.

I also would like to thank all of those who read this to say thanks for doing these experiments. Thank you.


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:27 AM by The Vagabond
Originally posted by sirbikesalot06
My girlfriend had her son taken away from by CPS and given to the Abuser. Really.


I'm told that's common. In fact when I was a child, I was nearly taken from my parents by CPS, because they ratted on a law enforcement official who was a neighbor of ours and was sexually molesting his sons. He made false counter-allegations. They left him alone and came and interviewed me at school to see if they could take me from my parents.

Luckily I was very street smart, even in kindergarten- i'd already been to several shrinks and watched my parents try to follow a couple of do it yourself child psychology books, and I was really good at seeming normal, at least in an interview setting (than god they didn't follow me around on the playground, where if I wasn't moping in a corner by myself I was fighting with bigger kids over any problem that arose).

I didn't get everything that was going on, but I knew that they were up to something and that they weren't friendly towards my family. I read those suits like a polygraph and gave them all the right answers, lying through my teeth half the time (my parents never did anything to me, but I knew i did have some issuess and I somehow just knew that some of those questions were bad news for me, so I played dumb, ducked, evaded, and lied until they left scratching their heads and not knowing what the hell to think or who to believe). They tried the dolls, the coloring books, all that crap- but they're idiots. Even 5 year old Vagbond knew what they were looking for and made sure not to do or say anything suspicious. If I could be anyone I wanted, who would I be... oh that's easy, my buddy richard- his family has a pool. Oh, or maybe anybody in the whole wide world as long as they have friends who aren't grownups and don't get picked on. Gee, which answer is best? Not exactly rocket science. The only way to get in trouble with CPS is to feel like you haven't done anything wrong- I imagine then you wouldn't present yourself as carefully as I did.

And although my parents were fine, I definitely pulled a fast one on CPS. I don't want to get into the details, but if they were worth their salt they would have taken about 30 seconds to figure out that I was severely screwed up and they definitely would have busted somebody- whether it would have been the right people or my innocent parents i can't even guess.

Matter of fact, the very next year I almost ended up in inpatient psychiatric treatment because I would burst into tears and beat the holy crap out of anyone who messed with me even slightly- hell i even tried to stab somebody in 1st grade just for making fun of me. That's the extent of what CPS can miss when it's standing right in front of them.

But CPS sat alone, without lawyers or parents present, across the table from a 5 year old who had more pent up rage and sexual shame than most teenagers, and never had the foggiest clue of it. So much for them.

HOWEVER, the illegal immigrant aspect really seems irrelevant to me. Citizenship status has nothing to do with parenting. Would the situation be any more acceptable if Raul was an American citizen who saw his child as property? I don't think so. So I can't help but feel like that's almost race-baiting.

I've seen and heard many similar horror stories where all the players were white American citizens. And the common denominator isn't political correctness or racism or anything like that- it's that a bunch of childless bureaucrats who have never seen the gritty truth of the real world think they know better than families.

All they accomplished was to make sure that I beat the holy crap out of that cop's kids (including the one that was 3 years older than me) every single time I met them for the next four years, until my family left town (poor S.O.B. was in junior high and still getting sucker punched and beaten down by a 5th grader... bet he LOVES the good people at CPS for that).

Then I came back to town in highschool and the first thing i did was meet one of the cop's kids in my math class and beat him up again, because I wanted to be sure he would never dare talk to me or anyone else about the bad old days. Top notch work CPS: Let the bad guys go and leave one messed up kid battering another one senseless for rest of the decade because he's afraid he'll get taken away from his family if the issue doesn't stay burried.

But I repeat, knowing what I know about the system, the whole immigrant angle simply falls on deaf ears over here.


reply posted on 28-10-2009 @ 07:24 PM by sirbikesalot06
Update:
Thanks to all your efforts, this is what has happen so far....

The new case worker has been getting to the bottom of this case since Monday. I'll refer to her as Rachael to protect her name. She gave me and Franciscan Nun a phone call. She told me that she was going to see Raul, the father and see how Poncho, the child was doing.

Today, Tanja gets a phone call from Rachael. She tells Tanja that she was hung up by Raul 4 times yesterday and that when she finally talked to her, Raul talked in English. After a few minutes into the phone call, Raul started to speak in spannish, only after he learned who Rachael was.

Well tomorrow at 10AM, Rachael is comming over to have a meeting with Tanja and her aunt Terri. We hope that the meeting will remove poncho and put him with Aunt Terri. We can only hope that Raul don't run between now and then.

So to all those who has been helping me, please keep going. I'll be keeping you guys updated on your progress and your help on the situation. I'll won't be present during those meeting because I have to take parenting classes. So please keep at it, and thanks for all your help.

And Keep it up...
Please Follow these Steps...
Please Follow these Steps... 1.Close your eyes and clear your mind. Empty it of thoughts. 2.Focus on the Mother, Tanja being with her son Poncho back home with his mother. 3.Do this for at least 5 minutes or so for at least a week. Or please do it until He's home with his mother.


reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 09:33 PM by rsimonesandvig
First off I would like to apologize for everything that you are going through. I am going through a battle with CPS and their apathy regarding my 3 1/2 yr old son as well. My child's father is also an abuser and CPS has sided with him as well and closed a case the head of pediatrics at children's hospital opened against my child's father in August of 2009. My son has severe asthma and his father (drug addict and alcoholic) does not give my son his daily medications that result in my son having to be admitted for 3 days at Children's Hospital because he cannot breathe. The first CPS case worker actually closed the case stating "unfounded claims" as well as telling me, "the head of pediatrics hold no validity with me." I was so furious I wrote a letter to Susan Dreyfus at askdshs.wa.gov detailing everything that happened and how outrageous the CPS worker (Carol Shaw) was that I had dealt with. 3 days later, my case was re opened and re assigned. Although that small victory was made, they are still siding with my very abusive ex and the head of this case actually said, "alcoholics and drug addicts can be very good parents." I have written more letters about the issue and I am researching lawyers. I suggest you do the same. Have your gf go to court and file a protection order that includes Poncho. Get witness statements and witnesses to go with you to court to show validity in her ex's abuse. Be truthful and factual and make sure to draw parallels between abusers and their manipulative tactics. This will at least place her son in her home temporarily while protecting her from Raul. After you get this temporary order, bring it with you to family court and file for full custody (its a long battle, but worth it). Bring police reports, protection orders, as many witness statements from people who have observed your gf interaction with the child and a domestic violence advocate (you can find one at any dshs office or local pd) and have them go with her to court.

I will be praying for you and your family and my best suggestion after having such a similar situation, familiarize yourself with CPS limitations, and write letters!!!! Keep in contact with Susan Dreyfus, Christine Gregoire and anyone else in charge of CPS. Write down everything in detail and make sure you are holding CPS accountable for following through with every step. Have a Domestic Violence advocate with you in every meeting. They really help keep these case workers from bending rules and being manipulative.



reply posted on 11-11-2009 @ 12:14 AM by sirbikesalot06
reply to post by ANNED



Not Right now though. I saw his truck in the driveway and himself when I was helping Tanja's Old neighborhood clean out his flooded house.

I saw it this Sunday.



No new Update though. I keep praying and the consciousness experiment everyday
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