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LAPD's 'Orwellian' anti-terror ads creeping out viewers

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posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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My sister is having problems with CPS right now because someone they won't name apparently has a beef against her and has called her in twice within one week.

Background, my 4 year niece developed retinoblastoma last year and had her eye removed. So she has a prosthetic that needs adjustment every 6 months till her growth rate slows. Once a year she has to see an Opthamologist (not an optometrist who only checks your eyesight) for her good eye to see if it's spread. They require $400 up front even though she has insurance.

Anyway, my sis had problems coming up with the money at one point and was worried she had to do it again when the next 6 month checkup came and didnt know how she was going to come up with the money. She must have expressed concern to the wrong person because they called CPS saying she didn't have the means to take care of her daughter's medical condition.

She had to miss 4 hours of work to meet with the worker who said that she could clearly see it was a none issue. CPS must've thought my niece had an acute problem that my sister was neglecting.

Anyway, whoever called must not have been happy with the outcome because they then called CPS AGAIN a week later saying my sister smoked the green herb and they required her to take a drug test.

So because someone made a claim against my sister they required my sister to go out of her way to prove it's invalid. Which it is. We have absolutely no clue who this person could be, but it's pretty low.

This is what's going to start happening to the people in LA and probably soon, all over the country. Someone gets peeved at you, they will just turn you in and make your life hell.

Interesting to note that my sis has lost out on some income since she had to take time off work, yet the person was so concerned about her not having money to take care of my niece's prosthetic eye.




posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Isnitch... sounds like a perfect title for this "program"!

i dont understand... each and everyday i feel as if though the book 1984 is becoming ever more truer



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 09:31 PM
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For the love of God...

Somebody needs to make a multi-cultural video that mimics the exact opposite of what they are communicating.


That's a video I'd pay for to see produced.



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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reply to post by Loke.
 


Thanks for standing up for my comments that were clearly taken out of context.

This is the first time I've been accused of being a terrorist - wee.



[edit on 27-10-2009 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 03:47 AM
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Remember Operation TIPS?

Allegedly dropped...



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 04:41 AM
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Originally posted by ALLis0NE


If you didn't make any comments about members being "hung to death" for not agreeing with you, or "blowing up police headquarters" like the user "verylowfrequency" did, then I don't think you have anything to worry about.


First of all I apologize for any misconceptions you read into my comments.

Due to police and prosecutor corruption I don't actually support the Death Penalty or as I put it hang until dead - as in my state they still have hanging to death as an option. As I am not the prosecutor, jury nor executioner doing so would not have anything to do with me as I have no such authority. I was just thinking at that moment that if any crime should result in the death penalty it should be treason, but that's probably just because I love my country, the freedom and liberty that it provides through the Constitution.

I think everyone who read my comments understood what I meant, but here you're taking it far out of context , by making the accusation that I made a death threat against you. I didn't and I apologize for your misconception.

I think you know that was not the case. Instead you take false comments and then attempt to assign them to me for ... What purposes? Oh that's right that's what this thread is all about isn't it? Accusing the neighbors you don't like of being terrorist, so they might be taken away and abused and tortured... because you don't like their point of view.


I think if you really were a licensed investigator, you wouldn't be assigning false statements to people.

You're welcome to quote me whenever you like, but I ask you refrain from using my username or likeness of myself in false comments by inserting your own words then falsely assigning my name to the quote. Thank you and good day.

[edit on 27-10-2009 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 09:44 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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Are you nuts?
What don't you people get here. Where is the right to protect your own? Peoperty and family. This is what is the problem in this country.

People DON'T understand that all the gangs and drugs have been manufactured by the CIA and other government organizations to create the chaos the government needs to implement it's plans. Everything has to been done very slowly and subtlely. Sneak in this here and that there and maybe no one is paying attention.

ALL police officers are merely corporate security gaurds, that's it!! They must be bonded and insured and have filed their oath within 15 days of accepting the job. If they have not, then they are merely impersonating an officer which is a federal crime. 18 USC 242, Deprivation of rights under Color of Law. You can sue them and file a lien against their bond so they can not work until the lien is satisfied.

The general public has gotten so far away from watching the government and understanding their rights and the actual Law, that it is now so complicated and flooded with crap it's hard to find the truth. Common Sense and Common Law. Protect yourself and your family and property.

If you are going to be watching the neighborhood, watch out for cops acting outside the law!!!! Report them to the FBI, the U.S. Marhsall service, have THEM arrested, they are subverting and usurping our rights to begin with, all for the sake of financial gain for the Elite in the City cabinet positions!! How hard is that to wrap you head around?

There is a Color of Law statute in the Federal Code along with Oath of Office and other ACTUAL Laws that are there for the protection of the people from the governments overstepping their bounds. ALL POLITICAL POWER IS INHERENT IN THE PEOPLE. That would be us, but WE don't use it correctly.

Is ignorance really bliss?



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 10:39 AM
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As like most everything we see, California is a model. Most of all the socialistic agenda's develop from there. So, if TPTB get a margin of success there, will they implement it nationwide?
I love to hear from the naysayers spouting there, "It's good for the community and good for the people". No, freedom is good for the people! If iWatch is only meant for California, why incorporate the Stars & Stripes in the logo? I do believe this is a national campaign, with California leading the way.
There is no other path to getting the grip of government from our throats, then FREEDOM. The more we give away, the less we have. We need to start an aggressive campaign to get our FREEDOMS BACK. If peaceful dialog isn't the answer, we must be prepared for the worst.
The time has come to choose your side. They have made this loud and clear......what side are you going to be on?



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 04:22 PM
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you don't have to worry about it now, but sooner or later it will come to you too if you live in the US, it looks like ole free america is turning into a police state facist country, facism is the merger by the corporation and the government right? isnt that already happening, seems to me coporations and wallstreet run washington now



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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I think everyone here is really overreacting. I doubt a cop is going to get a warrant and search your home because your neighbor smelled pot and decided to call the cops on you. Most people will always respect one another's privacy unless there is an obvious reason to be suspicious of someone. If your not building bombs in your garage and your don't have cars pulling up next to your house to score drugs in the middle of the night, then you have nothing to worry about.



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by The Transhumanist
I think everyone here is really overreacting. I doubt a cop is going to get a warrant and search your home because your neighbor smelled pot and decided to call the cops on you. Most people will always respect one another's privacy unless there is an obvious reason to be suspicious of someone. If your not building bombs in your garage and your don't have cars pulling up next to your house to score drugs in the middle of the night, then you have nothing to worry about.


Quite the optimist huh? The situation you describe can happen now!! The new "snitch line" is even worse!! They can just call and say you are acting "suspicious." They don't even need to smell pot or anything else.

One of my buddies had a little pot plant in a little pot on his back deck. One of his roommates broke up with his girlfriend, and a few nights later about 11 pm, the SWAT team converged on the house, dragging everyone outside in their boxer shorts and ransacking the house! Sure enough they found the puny little plant and apologized and wrote a citation and sent everyone back to bed! The ex-girlfriend had made it sound like a high-tech drug operation, so the cops came in full-force!!



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
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It's basicly a larger version of the Neighborhood Watch Program that was started in 1972. A much much larger version considering the population of L.A. County alone is 10 Million +-. LAPD has roughly 10,000 officers which is a 1000:1 pop to cop ratio. That's not including surrounding areas, tourist, out of state business visitors, illegal imagrants, etc.

((snip))


LAPD isn't responsible for LA Countys entire population, just the poor residents unfortunate enough to live in the City of LA (Like me)

There are over 25 other police depts in LA County, along with the LA Sheriffs Dept employs roughly 9,000 deputies.

Beverly Hills PD, Burbank PD, West Covina, Azusa, Santa Monica.. even puny rat hole cities like Irwindale and Vernon among others have police depts.. the 2.2 square mile city of San Fernando has a police dept.

There are also kid cops: Los Angeles Unified School Police

And.. some real goofy police depts: "General Services Police" (city parks / city buildings), community college police depts all over, UCLA police, a "county" police (county buildings / county parks), Burbank Airport police, LAX police, harbor police.



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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What is really creepy about these ads is that they are not at all local to LA. Last winter they were plastered all over the Calgary (Canada) Transit system. Big black posters with photos of an eye, an ear and a mouth, which read "If you see, or hear, anything suspicious, tell our staff or the police, immediately" They are also in Ottawa, New york and London. The same posters, or variations of. Some are more Orwellian than others. See the links, "Transit Watch" is the name of the program.

MARC Commuter train poster
London's privacy is falling down
Ottawa's weird poster
Watch your neighbour



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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I consider myself one of the consumate paranoids on this website (
) and I see no real issue with this until there is an inundation of arrests for thought crimes - which isn't going to happen with today's judicial system (and better never happen).

What this campaign is really asking for is for people to report suspicious behaviour...which means that they are going to be getting many more calls from lonely people who can't differentiate between suspicious and idiosyncratic...more work for them and just maybe it will stop a really bad crime at some point...but Big Brother/Orwellian? Nah...he is still operating in some shadows...



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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I live in the city...

All my neighbors are good ol liberals, except one, your business is your business-

The one exception are from Georgia and they have their noses up everyones backside.
They love Jesus, GWB, bad hair does, call the police on everyone else and call parking enforcement when anyone goes on vacation. They deserve small drill holes all over their roof next time they go on vacation...



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by newworld
Seriously thought, this is scary, specially if you have neighbors who hate you. guess it's time for me to be a bit more friendly with my neighbors just for precaution.


Or.. beat them to the punch and turn those terrorist conspiring supportive criminals in first.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:43 AM
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This post was a response to a post that has since been removed. During my edit I received a U2U. So, I'm deleting the entire post as it is no longer relevant.

[edit on 28-10-2009 by verylowfrequency]



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:50 AM
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Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
While I can understand the comments that have been made from my fellow ATS participants, I honestly don't see the harm in encouraging the public to be more observant of their surroundings.

It's basicly a larger version of the Neighborhood Watch Program that was started in 1972. A much much larger version considering the population of L.A. County alone is 10 Million +-. LAPD has roughly 10,000 officers which is a 1000:1 pop to cop ratio. That's not including surrounding areas, tourist, out of state business visitors, illegal imagrants, etc.

Factor in budgetary cutbacks, officers being fired or quitting, and the population growing daily ... It's absolutely impossible for the police force to maintain a presence that would deter criminals for conducting their business.

I agree that the system will have it's fair share of abuse, but in this case, the Pros far out weigh the Cons when it comes to protecting a city that needs all the help it can get.

Let the flaming and Pro-NWO rants commence!

And in a 911 world with muslims intentionally fitting into neighborhoods to deceive and divert LE it's important to watch.
This is about responsibility and not being a rat. We are mature adults who can intelligently protect America.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by The Transhumanist
I think everyone here is really overreacting. I doubt a cop is going to get a warrant and search your home because your neighbor smelled pot and decided to call the cops on you. Most people will always respect one another's privacy unless there is an obvious reason to be suspicious of someone. If your not building bombs in your garage and your don't have cars pulling up next to your house to score drugs in the middle of the night, then you have nothing to worry about.

Well said.
Obey the laws of this country because we worked hard to put them in place and you have nothing to worry about. Unfortunately there are those who are not obeying and making the place bad for alot of law abiding people.
I also expect Law Enforcement to do their job and be thorough.



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