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A Perfect Solution To This World Of Chaos, Confusion & Destruction

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posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 


What are you talking about?

You've mentioned pretty much EVERYBODY in the world. So yes you are correct, the WORLD is responsible for creating seperatist ideals and states.

Furthering the seperation isn't going to help solve the problem.

But these people are separating themselves... we've allowed immigration and some of them have integrated but others havn't... all i'm saying is that if these people had their own Islands they would be able to live happily in there predicament!

It's not people with their own agendas, it is a SELECT few people in each of those divisions that want something more than they should and they are the ones who create/promote the vile evil we see in our world today.

yes... and there are also a few with the same Agendas, they just aren't showing it... you can bet that certain people once in power would then bring out their hidden Agendas

Seperating folk based on what you have described is irresponsible and stupid. People are never going to agree to something like that. And there will be growth and you can't grow off an Island if everybody else is just looking to kill those from different islands now can we?

What? Not for me it isn't.... i'd be able to live peacefully!!
But who would care if there was growth? Do you really want growth out of all the Groups i mentioned?


No, the proper way forward is to unify and do away with these labels, religions, political ideology and race as factors when making decisions about our society.

This has not happened for thousands of years... what makes you think we are any closer to it now?

Common sense and respect of our brethren is what is required, not more of the same.

I agree... common sense is required and this can only be achieved with the described methods above! Once people realise they can't go forcing their beliefs on others, common sense will prevail.

You are simply extending the status quo.

No I'm not

Edit to add:

Also after posting this thread i realised it would only work this way with a One World Government Body so you are quite right....


Seriously? How do you get a OWG, when everybody is living on seperate islands following seperate rules?

Once all the groups are sent to their Islands they live there way.... if you look at my Original Post you will see that certain Groups can visit other Islands if they so wish.... they just can't bring their beliefs & Agendas with them except the Spiritualists & Buddhists who can when they visit the 'Peace & Love' Island. The others can visit the other Islands to try and help those people... it would be there choice as stated.

This would not be a separatist World if you look at it properly... there would be choice.



~Keeper

[edit on 10/25/2009 by tothetenthpower]




posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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Wait...I thought this was a joke but you seem like your being serious...this would never ever work, there is way too many complications and it's just unrealistic. Good try though?



posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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Ok, so you haven't a clue what a one world government is do you?

A one world government means that EVERYBODY has the same set of rules, currency, belief systems etc.

What you are giving people is a seperatist world. And you can't say it isn't because you are trying to DIVIDE people.

What part of that is not seperatist?

Some people can go to other places, but some people can't, some people can bring their beliefs with them, others can't, do you see the problem yo uare creating here?

You didn't address any of the problems I mentioned, you simply danced around them.

There is NO point in doing what you want to do, it would NEVER work. How do you get all those people to agree to that?

How do you manage food/resources/technology? Medicine?

How do you regulate business?

How do you work currency?

What laws are in place?

And remember it must be the SAME for everybody, otherwise you are a seperatist.

~Keeper



posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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There is no place for me.
I would not fit on any of the islands you listed.

I guess I would have to live alone on Driftwood Island.

It's a good idea, but I think those groups you mentioned would be overpopulated for any one island. I think they would need a big hunk of mainland. Maybe they all need their own countries.

Save the islands for those who don't fit into the groups.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 05:31 AM
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Ok, I realise that there are a few Flaws with my OP so here are some added bonuses:

The 'Peace & Love Island' has now been changed to 'Peace Of Mind Island'

Also here if you choose to leave this Island to join one of the Cults, you cannot come back to this Island. You can visit an Island of Religion though at your own risk.

The Hindus, Sikhs, Christians & Jews can visit the 'Peace Of Mind' Island but are not allowed to bring or worship their Faith here.

Anyone who is a Thug or a Gangbanger under the age of 18 will be given the chance to redeem their ways on the 'Peace Of Mind' Island. They will get the choice to begin with but once they have set foot on the 'Peace Of Mind' Island they can't retract.

There will be no Wildlife allowed on the following Islands:

'Weirdos Island'
'War Island'
'Death Island'
'Drug Island'

In fact there may be a new Island which we'll call 'Animal Island' and on this Island it is prohibited for anyone to take an animal from here and do harm to it or anything else to it... it can be visited but only by people from the following Islands:

'Religious Islands'
'Gay Islands'
'Capitalist Island'
'Peace Of Mind Island'

Bear in mind that there would be a rota so that none of these Groups met on the same day.

Women will be monitored on the following Islands so that when they become pregnant they will be taken to the 'Peace Of Mind' Island where they will give Birth so the children will have a much better chance of survival in Life and a better upbringing:

'War Island'
'Death Island'
'Drug Island'
'Capitalist Island'

Another new Island will be called 'Porn Island' and here the people are free to indulge in all their sexual desires except Child Porn! Once here they can't visit the 'Peace Of Mind' or 'Animal Island' but are free to visit any of the other Islands at their own risk.

Child Porn will be banned throughout the World and anyone caught attempting it will be hung.

There will also be an Island for those who wish to live with all the people mentioned in my OP and this post which will be called 'The Old World' Island. Anyone is free to visit this Island but bear in Mind that if you join any of the Groups mentioned in my Posts you can't re-enter the 'Peace Of Mind' Island.

One last Rule for the 'Peace Of Mind' Island.... the only Language spoken here will be English but there will be an Island called 'Language Island' where people will be able to go to to Learn the Language and to mingle with others if they wish to do so who speak other Languages.

And with regards to Governing Bodies.... there will be no Government on 'Peace Of Mind' Island. However there will be Governing Bodies overseeing the other Islands to make sure the rules about leaving that Island are abided by.



[edit on 26-10-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 



Ok, so you haven't a clue what a one world government is do you?

Yes i do and it's not one i want to live under

A one world government means that EVERYBODY has the same set of rules, currency, belief systems etc.

This would never work.... who is going to abide by this rule with everyone being so different? What are you going to do with the people who don't follow this rule? Are you going to kill everybody off?

What you are giving people is a seperatist world. And you can't say it isn't because you are trying to DIVIDE people.

People are already divided and i've made some adjustments to my OP. If you want to live in this OWG then you can live on the 'The Old World' Island. I suppose we'll have to get an island for the NWO too called 'New World' Island.

What part of that is not seperatist?

As i've stated already people are different and always will be.... they choose to be seperate

Some people can go to other places, but some people can't, some people can bring their beliefs with them, others can't, do you see the problem yo uare creating here?

Do you see the problems which have arisen from people doing the above?

You didn't address any of the problems I mentioned, you simply danced around them.

No, i didn't.... i answered them to the best of my knowledge. This is a new concept so obviously there were a few Flaws which i have fixed in my Post above this one. I'm sure there are others but we can deal with that over time.

There is NO point in doing what you want to do, it would NEVER work. How do you get all those people to agree to that?

Never say never... it could work... you just need to get all the Groups mentioned above in my OP to the Islands of their choice.

How do you manage food/resources/technology? Medicine?

Each Island would have there own Schools.

How do you regulate business?

Each Island would have there own Businesses

How do you work currency?

There would either be no currency or each Island would have there own Currency a bit like it is now

What laws are in place?

Each Island would have there own set of Laws

And remember it must be the SAME for everybody, otherwise you are a seperatist.

~Keeper


[edit on 26-10-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 08:30 AM
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I don't think this would ever work. Why? There aren't enough islands on earth to accomodate all you mentioned, plus various combinations.

Also, I just wonder, what island you would pick for yourself?

Would it be called "Labelers island?" How about "Judgemental Isle?"



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Blanca Rose
reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 


I don't think this would ever work. Why? There aren't enough islands on earth to accomodate all you mentioned, plus various combinations.

Also, I just wonder, what island you would pick for yourself?

Would it be called "Labelers island?" How about "Judgemental Isle?"





I'd be on the 'Peace Of Mind' Island.... simple as that....

Here i will have all the Peace Of Mind i ever wanted... i wouldn't have to know or see any of those mentioned groups again unless i chose to visit the Island they were occupying!!

This is how i would be able to achieve everlasting Peace for myself....

If you think you would achieve peace of mind anywhere else then please tell me where?



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 12:10 PM
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Hi, by having their own Islands they would basically have their own Country!!

I don't know about you but i'd be much happier if things were this way as it has been proved time and time again that all these groups just don't get on together... you only have to look at the state of the World today to see that....



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist[/i


I'd be on the 'Peace Of Mind' Island.... simple as that....


Are you a dreamer?

Say you got very ill, and you needed medical attention from one of the other islands to survive. Would you die before leaving your 'Peace Of Mind' island? What if you needed a blood transfusion and you could only get it from the gay island?

Unless you are absolutely sure you can be completely self sufficient, how do you know you will have peace of mind?

"No Man is an Island Unto Himself."


Here i will have all the Peace Of Mind i ever wanted... i wouldn't have to know or see any of those mentioned groups again unless i chose to visit the Island they were occupying!!

This is how i would be able to achieve everlasting Peace for myself....


It sounds as though you would like to see heaven on earth. Can't you wait to get to heaven? If it exists?

You might find yourself rather lonesome on your island. There can't be 2 of you who think this way on the entire planet!


If you think you would achieve peace of mind anywhere else then please tell me where?


Peace of mind, can only be found in your mind, not by a location.



posted on Oct, 26 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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Or we could save a lot of time and judgmental labeling by just accepting others for who they are, what they believe, and how they experience life. And I think a ton of tension would be released if we distribute some our wealth to countries in need of the very basic necessities to stay alive.

However, if I had to choose one of these islands, lol, I would have to go with the island closest to the Spiritualist & Buddhist Island mixed with Marijuana Island.


-Omni



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 08:31 AM
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Are you a dreamer?

Yep! I suppose i am at the end of the day but it could happen it would most definately be a beautiful place for me.

Say you got very ill, and you needed medical attention from one of the other islands to survive. Would you die before leaving your 'Peace Of Mind' island? What if you needed a blood transfusion and you could only get it from the gay island?

I've already said that there are choices for people wanting to visit other islands and nope i wouldn't need any bloody transfusions!!

Unless you are absolutely sure you can be completely self sufficient, how do you know you will have peace of mind?

"No Man is an Island Unto Himself."

I just know that that will be the Island to achieve this


It sounds as though you would like to see heaven on earth. Can't you wait to get to heaven? If it exists?

You might find yourself rather lonesome on your island. There can't be 2 of you who think this way on the entire planet!

Maybe it is or would be Heaven.... i don't know as i havn't seen Heaven but this place down here is definately resembling Hell!!

Peace of mind, can only be found in your mind, not by a location.


Yes, peace of Mind can be found in your Mind but in order for that to happen you have to get rid of everything else that surrounds you which funks up your Peace Of Mind!!



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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So you're saying the only way for you to achieve peace of mind is for you to never see another religious, gay, drug-using, black, or Capitalist person again?

good luck, man.


(also, please note that there isn't enough land mass between every island on Earth to sustain the whole human population. And what would we do with the continents? I call Europe!)



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 12:17 PM
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To tell you the truth i don't really have problems with all those Faiths (just a select few)... but just to be fair to everyone i'd have to seperate them to an Island although it does say that they all can share an Island so it's really up to them and the people's choice as to where they want to go.....

BTW I'm a Spiritualist myself......



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by InfiniteOmnipresence
Or we could save a lot of time and judgmental labeling by just accepting others for who they are, what they believe, and how they experience life. And I think a ton of tension would be released if we distribute some our wealth to countries in need of the very basic necessities to stay alive.

-Omni


I'm afraid it's been tried and tested and it hasn't worked.... you can see that today with the Seperatists regimes, religions & groups!!!



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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To tell you the truth i don't really have problems with all those Faiths (just a select few)... but just to be fair to everyone i'd have to seperate them to an Island although it does say that they all can share an Island so it's really up to them and the people's choice as to where they want to go.....

BTW I'm a Spiritualist myself......


Don't you think that we, as a species, are capable of greater spiritual advancement if we are constantly exposed to ideas which come from minds very different from our own?

Diversity at the genetic level allows life as we know it to evolve, and to survive; without it, the first potent enough disease to come along could wipe out entire species. All evolution is the product of random genetic alterations, which is built in to most species through the mechanism of gamete meiosis; the process of mutation, of change leading to diversity, is so important to life that it is built into our reproductive cycles.

Isn't mental diversity important as well? If we all lived in populations whose ideas agreed with our own, we'd lose touch with reality quickly. We wouldn't have access to the full range of ideas which Humanity as a whole can produce-- science, art, and culture would stagnate and die.

The world you describe is a nightmare, from my perspective.



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Don't you think that we, as a species, are capable of greater spiritual advancement if we are constantly exposed to ideas which come from minds very different from our own?

What like? Islamic Fundamentalism? Sharia Law? Allah? White Supremists? The Gay Agenda? Child Porn? How to be a Transexual? ha! ha! Yes the list looks like something i want for myself and my kids (if i had any?) Oh yes, what a great World that is and theres plenty more i can mention

Diversity at the genetic level allows life as we know it to evolve, and to survive; without it, the first potent enough disease to come along could wipe out entire species. All evolution is the product of random genetic alterations, which is built in to most species through the mechanism of gamete meiosis; the process of mutation, of change leading to diversity, is so important to life that it is built into our reproductive cycles.

This may sound bad to you but the Islamic Faith is spreading throughout the World at an alarming rate and that to me will wipe out many Cultures & Faiths if it isn't stopped in it's tracks!! Don't you see what they are doing with their seperatist ways? You must be blind if you don't see it. They act like Aliens.... sorry but it has to be said... its as if the whole race is under some kind of Hypnotic spell and they are having too many kidsl!!

Isn't mental diversity important as well? If we all lived in populations whose ideas agreed with our own, we'd lose touch with reality quickly. We wouldn't have access to the full range of ideas which Humanity as a whole can produce-- science, art, and culture would stagnate and die.

very true and i understand completely but we cannot grow as a species if certain factions of Society want to completely dominate others

The world you describe is a nightmare, from my perspective.

Then you must be young and havn't lived yet.... also you must be blind to what is going on out there... i'd much rather live in my Heavenly abode than any of the other Islands.

Thanks for your post though... it shows you have potential but you really do need to open your eyes a little more.




[edit on 27-10-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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You should not be telling some one else to open their eyes when your own are shut...you generalize the Islamic faith as evil but you probably know nothing about it. I would agree that Muslim extremists are evil but not the entire Islam religion. I myself am not a fan of religions but I do accept what others want to believe.



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 05:21 PM
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I too don't care much for what God people wish to Worship but there is no need to try and force their beliefs onto everyone else building too many Mosques abd creating too many babies! There are already 1000 Mosques here in England and they have seperated themselves by creating Muslim only schools and a whole load of other stuff which they want to do seperately....

Like i said in another post... we gave them hospitality and they gave us seperatism!!

Anyway this thread isn't about Islam or Muslims per-se... it is about creating a scenario where everyone is happy.

Here is a nice video for you to watch and no it's not propoganda it's plain fact and live!!



[edit on 27-10-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]



posted on Oct, 27 2009 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Don't you think that we, as a species, are capable of greater spiritual advancement if we are constantly exposed to ideas which come from minds very different from our own?

What like? Islamic Fundamentalism? Sharia Law? Allah? White Supremists? The Gay Agenda? Child Porn? How to be a Transexual? ha! ha! Yes the list looks like something i want for myself and my kids (if i had any?) Oh yes, what a great World that is and theres plenty more i can mention

[edit on 27-10-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]


How is what you believe any better than white supremacy? Don't you want white people on an island to themselves? Or, better yet, divided up into a hundred smaller groups, so you never have to acknowledge the existence of an ideology other than your own?

I understand you now. I thought your idea was a misguided vision of utopia, but it's just simple bigotry.



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