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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 03:48 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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Originally posted by antar
Good job on the info, I will be looking over the docs and printing as much as possible.
No problem.
Just remember that the laws change, drastically, once a National Emergency is declared.
People on ATS seem to think that the legality of the laws is illegal and that based on the fact that they believe a conspiracy through a false flag is
what induced the National Emergency, or Martial Law is in effect, they still have to prove that fact.
Or at least be smarter than the idiots plotting to overthrow the populace.
Hoist the Flag : False Flags, Agent Provocateurs, and Black Box Operations
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 06:05 PM by m khan
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There is something "fishy" going on with the banks under this emergency.
www.boston.com...
We probably won't find out what it is until it's too late to do anything about it.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 06:20 PM by Emerald The Paradigm
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You are very confused.
The people who have the nukes are the same people who are taking your money away via taxes.
Wake up.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 06:35 PM by Hitemhard
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I know this might sound a bit odd, but mu wife pointed out that it was very interesting that this is happening just as they are trying to finalize the
whole Health care reform debacle. Do you think Obama would try to abuse his powers under national security, in an effort to pass this bill (because of
the "evil swine flu") and not have to deal with the opposition?
It would make sense wouldn't it? He keeps getting stopped at every turn by opposition, so in turn, what better way to actually do what you want, than
to make the opposition a non-issue? "Oh you oppose my health care bill? Too bad, this is a matter of national security, so suck it up!" The same
excuse could be used on how he's handling the economy. "Oh you don't like that I'm giving bailout money to failing banks and businesses? You
don't like that I'm taking control over car dealers? Sorry, your opinion no longer matters as this is a national emergency, and as such, what I say
goes... at least for the next 2 years" Sadly... by then 2 years will be WAY too late.
Congratulations you liberal monkeys! You elected the very first dictator to America I hope you're happy with your "King"
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 06:53 PM by bonzye
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Does any of this sound suspicious? Banks going down the @#!% hole. Iran threats at its peak. Web Bots Predicting something big gonna happen. It looks
like things are lining up for a disaster
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 08:14 PM by Hitemhard
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ALL HAIL KING OBAMA!
Surely he will save us from the deadly Pig Monster disease if only we subject to him!
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 08:18 PM by LadySkadi
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Originally posted by Hitemhard
I know this might sound a bit odd, but mu wife pointed out that it was very interesting that this is happening just as they are trying to finalize the
whole Health care reform debacle. Do you think Obama would try to abuse his powers under national security, in an effort to pass this bill (because of
the "evil swine flu") and not have to deal with the opposition?
SNIP
I think this is the most logical scenario, at present. However, I don't think he will come out and make it a demand, he won't need to. The fear
tactics and media will sway the people (as it always does. Why this always happens is another question to ask...) and pressure will be on Congress to
make it so. One thing I can believe about the Pres. is that an opportunity will not be passed up and this is a grand one...
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 08:45 PM by Lil Drummerboy
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This may be off topic but here is something I have noticed. At one company I work at I have noticed an increase in foreign drivers. Not Hispanic but
somewhere else like Russian. and these guys can barely speak English. I also have a second job that has me traveling the states. I have noticed the
same thing elsewhere. it may seem like a stretch to be mentioning this, but givin the circumstances we may be heading in, I thought it was worthy of
mentioning.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 10:49 PM by daddio
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Originally posted by JJay55
I'm just not buying the US government taking over the population of the US. There's not enough manpower and the motivation would only be if there
was a foreign force behind it... like the Caliphate and Islam.
If that's the case and Obama is the Manchurian Candidate of Islam then it could get interesting as the US military will go against the president.
Funny you should mention Islam and Obama in the same paragraph, who do you think is Obama's real father? It was posted on ATS somewhere, can't
remember the thread but the guy had a link to an article that was very well done. Archeological Anthropologist and all. Obama's height and cranial
sculpture make it MORE LIKELY that Malcolm X is his real biological fther than the 5' 6" tall Obama Sr. Seems that Stanley Ann Dunham was in San
Fran the same time as Malcolm was giving his communist rhetoric speech and they may have gotten together. She was also very into socialism and
communism. Well documented.
So why do you think they want to hide his birth certificate, if the people of this country found out that his real biological father was the FOUNDER
and PRESIDENT of the Nation of Islam, they would go nuts.
I am not sure if Title 50 of the Federal Code was ever ratified by Congress, if it was not, then the National Emergency would ONLY apply to 14th
Amendment U.S. citizens and NOT AMERICAN Citizens. You must understand you are not a "person" according to the law, you are a "Sovereign Citizen",
you can not be forced into anything you have a conscientious objection to. For the good of the country my rear end!! In GOD We trust, whether you
believe in it or him or not.
I am locked and loaded as is everyone I know, I have signs on my doors, NO TRESPASSING on FOREIGN LAND!! This is NOT U.S. Territory. States are
sovereign as long as WE stand up for our rights, executive orders be damned, they are and always have been unconstitutional. ALL Political POWER is
INHERENT in the PEOPLE. Nuff said.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 11:50 PM by fleabit
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While many of you would like to assume that declaring an act of emergency means imminent martial law, I think most clear-minded folks realize this is
just a way to help hospitals and other health-care facilities get the assistance needed to get through this flu.
Just because a flu isn't super-deadly doesn't mean it's not a serious threat to the nation. At a time where our economy is a shambles, the sheer #
of lost business time due to sick workers is a pretty serious hit to the economy, I can understand their concern.
I still don't entertain even a remote possibility of martial law, forced immunizations, or in fact, most things that people around here are afraid
(i.e. hope) will happen.
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 11:59 PM by southernlight
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The first paragraph in the Boston Globe link from m kahn is a real eyecatcher.
"President Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency, giving his health chief the power to let hospitals move emergency rooms
offsite to speed treatment and protect noninfected patients."
Move emergency rooms offsite. Hmm Ive heard of a couple of places that FEMA has that would serve as excellent treatment/containment areas for just
that purpose....
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 11:59 PM by Chaos Lord
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Here we go!!
I resurected an older post about these executive orders. And found one that included this.
While the danger of a dictatorship arising through legal means may seem remote to us today, recent history records Hitler seizing control through the
use of the emergency powers provisions contained in the laws of the Weimar Republic."
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reply posted on 25-10-2009 @ 11:59 PM by Chaos Lord
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 12:52 AM by Mak Manto
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This law has been in act since '76.
So what? NOW IT'S BAD since Obama's President, and he declared swine flu an emergency?
And No, Obama's not pushing health care through because of the swine flu.
Obama wanted universal health care long before the swine flu even started.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:09 AM by Seiko
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Last night I started reading up n this after the declaration was announced. I was also interested in posse comitatus. I found u.s code title 10 to be
relevant here.
us code 10
I also read that the definition of states rights to impose quarantines whilst historically left to the governors can be overridden if the president
feels that the law is not being upheld.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:35 AM by saralee
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 01:46 AM by The Vagabond
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
At least two constitutional rights are subject to revocation during a state of emergency:
With all due respect to the point with regard to the structure of the law, it is impossible for any constitutional right to ever be suspended by law.
It takes the constitution to outweigh the constitution.
If a federal official attempts to deny you a constitutional right, then it is your duty as an American to exercise your second amendment right to bear
arms against that official.
I know the government might think it can suspend constitutional rights, and the courts may agree, but that's not the social contract upon which this
nation was founded, the constitution is. And there's a long and proud tradition of Americans shooting people who threaten that.
And even setting the law aside, there's the simple matter of government by consent of the governed. If the people do not consent and the government
will not relent, a defacto state of revolution exists, and again, the government is liable to get shot at in that case, laws be damned.
edited to clarify that this was a response to quoted external material.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 02:17 AM by PenandSword
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LOL!!! Wake up people....we don't have rights now in peace or in an emergency.
Have you heard Nazi Pelosi at all lately? When asked by a reporter what in the Constitution gives you the right to pass healthcare against the will
of the people she answered,
"You're kidding me? You're kidding me, right?"
paraphrased but pretty close. That is Nazi Pelosi. I can only guess it's much worse from der Obamfuhrer.
As for myself...if someone wants to give me a shot against my will, they'll be shot as first. Plain and simple. I am not going out in a Mengele
plotted satanic cabal fest.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 02:37 AM by nikko
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
The question people should be asking themselves is if this all is a flase flag operation.
Hoist the Flag : False Flags, Agent Provocateurs, and Black Box Operations
First, the economy is collpasing due to negligence of Bush, and nothing from Obama.
Second, a pandemic, that could have been stopped at the border.
Third, the border has been militarized since Bush, so why was nothing done?
Was I right in the thread below or even in the one above?
Bilderberger : The Global Agenda, Eugenics, Global Warming, And Biochiping Sheeple
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"Second, a pandemic, that could have been stopped at the border."
Funny how drugs are regulated beyond belief, but when it comes to health hazards, it's no problem. They could have done something at the border, but
I doubt it only originated in Mexico ( the flu ). Seems like planning was involved. How? Well one way is by looking at the Tami Flu stock holders.
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reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 03:14 AM by Orion65
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I will say, without any hesitation whatsoever, that the "swine" flu was not originated by pigs (although it has pig in it) and it has nothing to do
with south of the border any more than it has to do with Kazakhstan or the Galapagos Islands.
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