Jesus was an ultra liberal to say the least, so why are evangelicals not ultra liberals?

Evangelicals are all about pimping the Son of God like a common twenty dollar whore. It is all about the Benjamins. Even though there is nothing in the Bible that gives them the mandate to make a living on the back of Almighty God.

Originally posted by asmall89
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Unless I'm wrong the thing Christians were against Stem Cell Research because they used embryos for said research, Embryos are/create humans (depending on your definition of human life). Now we don't need embryos or conception to study stem cells so there for there isn't a problem, at least I don't think there should be. Again I restate that Jesus would probably not affiliate himself with any political stance.
Also I forgot to mention, where does it say in the Republican stance that they like war, where does it say that Democrats hate war?

As far as I'm concerned JFK & Johnson escalated the Vietnam War and Nixon ended it, am I right?

Truman started Korean War.

Reagan Iran Contra, Lebanon & Grenada, & Libya.

Bush Sr. started & ended the Gulf War, and Clinton continued the weekly bombings on Iraq, plus did some bombings in Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Sudan etc.

Bush Jr. Started the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars and Obama hasn't ended them yet, actually he has bombed Pakistan too.

Seems like our history is full of war mongers regardless of party/religion, no?





[edit on 24-10-2009 by asmall89]

Well, we can cherry pic 1 or 2 intricacies all day. My main point is the overall scope of belief regarding left vs. right and if you take the teachings of Jesus and apply them to either side left/right you would get around a 80%+ hit rate for Jesus being leftist. Yet with evangelicals they are likely 90% on the right.. a total contradiction. If you really do think Jesus is not a liberal than show us some concise words of Jesus that fit the right wing philosophy. We have already given proof his views are overwhelmingly liberal now it's your turn.

Originally posted by groingrinder
Evangelicals are all about pimping the Son of God like a common twenty dollar whore. It is all about the Benjamins. Even though there is nothing in the Bible that gives them the mandate to make a living on the back of Almighty God.

Oh man, I actually agree with that. Some evangelicals do that, it's just horrible.

Jesus was not an extremist, which Evangelicals are.

Jesus was not about these weird religions in the world today, and he certainly was not about our present day churches, which are hypocritical.

He has received a very bad press as usual - in His lifetime and beyond - by His name, Christianity which means to follow the teachings of Christ, being twisted and distorted until a lot of so-called Christians are nothing like Him.

Jesus walked with the sinners and the people he had no time for were the hypocrites (a lot of churches and religions today) and the moneylenders who charged extortionate rates - well, I guess that covers most of the so-called leaders in our world.

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While Jesus taught a doctrine that hilariously contradicts what his "followers" actually practice, I don't believe the liberal agenda quite fits him either. He talked a lot about repentance from sin and prayer very specifically. He didn't leave room for other spiritual paths one should follow outside of himself. His views on marriage were straight forward. I don't need to say much on abortion, sex education, gay pride, porn, drugs e.c.t


I think when people picture Jesus hanging out with "the sinners" they tend to picture him telling jokes and sipping wine completely at ease with others actions in his presence. I have an image of a teacher, correcting and telling others exactly what he thinks of their lifestyle and offending many.

A lot of people who followed him ended up leaving.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by SmokeandShadow]

Because most christians today have very little knowledge of what Jesus Christ actually stood for. Each church has a different interpretation of the bible, each christian has a different view of their religion. It's all a joke.

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I agree, the churches are a joke, but Jesus is not. A true Christian follows what He teaches, full stop.

And if more people followed what He taught, the world would not be in such a mess.

I would say that reasonable's ideas are just as wrong as those evangelicals who say the opposite.

Conservative and Liberal is just an inaccurate label given to the politics of humanity. Christ's teachings, as well as Muhammad and the Buddha seem to transcend all politics. They exist to show humanity how to favor virtuous ends, not power or material. Virtue frees us from the faux power struggle of right vs. left.

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Excellent post detailing the discrepancy between what Jesus taught and the modern Christian church's interpretations and teachings.

The closer you look at Christianity and Jesus the more you have to wonder if Jesus were here today would he even recognize it as his creation? I doubt he would.

First off Christians have spent some time praying to the wrong guy for several reasons one being that Jesus's actual name was Jeshua or Yeshua (as far as we can tell) and not Jesus (Jesus is just an altered version) so all these teachings about "There is power in the name of Jesus to do miracles" are complete BUNK as the guys name wasn't even Jesus. Secondly Jesus instructed them to pray Our Father who art in Heaven and yet modern Christians readily pray to Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the "Father" and many denominations pray to Mary or the Saints.

Also the fact that over the last 2000 years many of the Gospels have been edited and some have been outright thrown out of the Bible (Gospel of Thomas anyone). It is clear that when the Romans took over the Christian church and it became a state-sponsored religion that it became less and less about what Christ actually taught and more about controlling people. In order to draw in practicing polytheists much of the Jesus story was clearly altered to fit into pagan or astrological constructs. Jesus became a solar deity who was killed at dusk and rose again, they picked four Gospels (Four Seasons) and 12 Disciples (12 Months) and used the Cross, a symbol that oft represented the sun and the zodiac, as a symbol for Christianity. Instead of drawing a SUN in the middle of the cross they often just put Jesus hanging there but even some modern Christian crosses show the sun emitting rays from the center of the cross and draw halos around the heads of Jesus and the Disciples.

Jesus's true message is lost in time it was twisted and altered by those in power who sought to use the religion to uphold unimaginable evil, war genocide, torture and tyranny on a massive scale and the thing is they got away with it. The religion has quieted down today but it amazes me how many Christians run to the church to be spoon fed the mindless interpretation of some priest or pastor claiming to know the absolute truth or claiming that the Bible IS absolute truth. If Jesus we're here today and saw what had been done with his teachings I think he would weep simply at the fact they were organized into a religion. After all his whole purpose was to teach people that they could replace religion and ritual with love and peace and get by just fine.