Asia plans to 'lead the world' by 2015 with EU-like bloc of nations

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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 07:23 PM
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Asia plans to 'lead the world' by 2015 with EU-like bloc of nations


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The 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) wants an economy that will "lead the world" by 2015. To these ends, the group has commissioned a study on the feasibility of wrapping some of the world's most populated nations into a "freed trade zone" bloc not dissimilar to the European Union, according to published reports.

The Asian leaders, who are meeting in Thailand, said the association would tie together the ASEAN nations and regional partners...
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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 07:23 PM
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However, the BBC noted that a proposal to include the United States in such an economic community was a point of contention at the ASEAN meeting.

"Some Congressional leaders are reportedly urging the Obama Administration to pursue a free-trade agreement with ASEAN, but this is likely to prove contentious," economic blogger Marc Chandler added. U.S. leaders plan to appoint an ambassador to the ASEAN and stage a summit with leaders in November, he also noted.


Hmm, combine this with the recent stories of the dumping of the US Dollar:
Latin America, Iran, Russia, China may drop US dollar


BEIJING, October 14 (RIA Novosti) – Russia is ready to consider using the Russian and Chinese national currencies instead of the dollar in bilateral oil and gas dealings, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday.

The premier, currently on a visit to Beijing, said a final decision on the issue can only be made after a thorough expert analysis.

“Yesterday, energy companies, in particular Gazprom, raised the question of using the national currency. We are ready to examine the possibility of selling energy resources for rubles, but our Chinese partners need rubles for that. We are also ready to sell for yuans,” Putin said.


And so where does this leave the US, Canada, and Mexico on the global economic stage?

Will they be forced to consummate the highly controversial NAU?

And what military implications might this alliance have?

Times are a changin' indeed.

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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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Of course, times are changing, and maybe they learn from the things we did wrong.

But we here in Europe needed a long time to get to the insight, that we only can work together. And this process is still in progress.

Besides that: Nobody is interested to kill the balance. We have to get used to a new one time after time though. About a hundred years ago, we had to get used to the fact, that the USA became the major factor in industry and politics.

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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Times have to change, that is inevitable. Nothing can last forever. As far as a countries dominance, or empires dominance, some last thousands of years, some last just a few decades. As for the U.S, I think we were just sold out by those who are supposed to be our representatives. Big corporations run the world, not nations anymore. The people are just disposable commodities to them. They tell us we are great, so we believe we are, they tell us that we aren't so great, so we believe that we aren't.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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This is it, man!

This is the event spoken about.
Globalization.
Out in the open!




posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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They are going to do that in 5 years? Ummm...yeah right. Makes for a nice headline though!!



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Yep... this is why the NAU makes sense...


at least to me...



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 08:55 PM
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And don't tell me, China, and maybe even Russia will be at the forefront of this group...

Years ago some other members, and myself have been talking about this very thing, and most members, mostly in the left did not believe anything like this would happen...

China, Russia and some other nations have been working hard to bring down the U.S. and the west economically so that they can be the leaders with their own economic policies in place.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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OK, let's put this in perspective.

ASEAN member nations = Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and Thailand, Brunei, Burma (Myanmar), Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam.

No China. No Japan. No Korea. No India.

No power.

However, the article notes, "regional partners" China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand attended. Hmm.

Bridging the gap between ASEAN nations and the more powerful single nations mentioned above will be harder than many people realize. China, Japan, and India will be loathe to share their relative economic power with the likes of Laos and Cambodia. Japan and South Korea still depend on US military force for their protection, at least for the time being, and that creates complications. China and South Korea pretty much hate Japan, although relations are softening. And then there is the "Taiwan issue." Not to mention North Korea. See how complex this stuff gets?

I think a "Pan-Asian," EU-like superstate is certainly a strong possibility at some point, but not as soon as 2015. Too many regional political and economic conflicts of interest to be ironed out.



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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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[double post, sorry].

[edit on 10/24/09 by silent thunder]



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 09:33 PM
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Yeah. How is Russia includced in this? LOL some people. Im not sdaying they wont have ties, but them being considered "Asian"? Good grief people.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by silent thunder
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I think a "Pan-Asian," EU-like superstate is certainly a strong possibility at some point, but not as soon as 2015. Too many regional political and economic conflicts of interest to be ironed out.


There is the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in which China, and Russia are the main members, and other nations like Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan are members of. The ASEAN group have been guest attendees of the SCO meetings, and other nations have been wanting to join this organization such as Iran which received observer status in 2005.
en.wikipedia.org...

The ASEAN group will unite with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) because as you said alone they don't have much power.

There have been annoucements of a new reserve currency, and even a new global economy which Russia, and China have been yearning to be the ones in charge of.

Since China, and Russia are allies in the SCO imo the new economy will be led by both, at least for a while just as they have wanted at least for several years now. If the EU doesn't agree with this, they will try to set up their own currency, and who knows what will come out of this.

But you can be certain that with China owning most of the U.S. debt, and with the current government being Democrat, they are going to be doing the bidding of the chinese government however they can.


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posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Yeah. How is Russia includced in this? LOL some people. Im not sdaying they wont have ties, but them being considered "Asian"? Good grief people.


...Yeah.... I wonder why Russia is a member of the SHANGHAI Cooperation Organization....
Humm.........



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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The regional conflicts of interest you're talking about are precisely what makes this particular conference newsworthy. In fact there are a few blocs in addition to ASEAN, notably the SCO and the SAARC, and to a lesser degree BIMSTEC and the ACD, as well as the myriad trade and treaty agreements that overlap and criss-cross around Asia.

There have been several proposals in recent years to start streamlining all of these separate entities, and combine them into one large bloc. The Japanese proposal, much like the Australian proposal last year, seems more designed to allay US fears of exclusion from the inevitable pact than anything else.

I think it is an inevitability. Free trade agreements exist between nation A and nation B under one pact, and with nation B and nation C under another. Nation A can deal with nation D under another set of rules, but not with B or C under those rules. This situation has been evolving steadily over the past couple of decades, and the process seems to be pointing to a natural evolution to union.

I think it will be a while before it reaches the level of integration seen at the EU, but that's not exactly what's being proposed. An economic union, consisting of trade, information, and training agreements, on the other hand - absolutely doable by 2015.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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NWO or Type 1 Civilization?

We are type 0




Backgrounder: 4th East Asia Summit

HUA HIN,Thailand, Oct. 25 (Xinhua) -- As part of a series of summit-level meeting related to the 15th ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) summit, the fourth East Asia Summit (EAS)was held here on Oct. 25, where leaders of the ASEAN member countries met with their counterparts from China, Japan, Republic of Korea, India, Japan, Australia and New Zealand.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Yeah. How is Russia includced in this? LOL some people. Im not sdaying they wont have ties, but them being considered "Asian"? Good grief people.


Look at a map lately?

More of Asia is Russia than any other country.



posted on Oct, 24 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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if that means we pull out our troops from south korea and japan, good...



posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Any EU-style community was "not realistic" in the short term, he said. "There would be tremendous challenges you would have to confront - not the least of them being some of the currencies are simply not convertible."

Currency union was normally the last step for any community of countries, Key said. "There's a lot of progress to be made on regulation, trade access, before you move into currency union."

But he said it was clear there was a general recognition that the region was becoming a very powerful part of the world. "Greater co-operation and co- ordination is in the best interests of the region. What the final structure of that looks like is up for debate. But there is no question there is a growing appetite for a broader consensus."


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I am all for a Asia free-trade zone because it would New Zealand exporters much needed access to markets . IMO an Asian currency is a bad idea because of conflicting monetary(SP?) and national interests . Unless the EU falls to bits then I could see such a Union happening in this part of the world . I don't really want my grandchildren what it was like to pay for things using the Kiwi dollar .



posted on Oct, 25 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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Every day it seems like we're a day closer to judgement day.





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