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Originally posted by jdl79
I believe this movie is most likely a propaganda piece. The movie and book are both based on the adventures of Jim Channon. If you are unfamiliar with this man one should google First Earth Battalion and/or his name. Think Blackwater for the UN.
Quote from : The First Earth Battalion: Dare to Think the Unthinkable, Ideas and Ideals for Soldiers Everywhere
In 1979, the Peoples’ Republic of China publicly reported that several thousand of its children aged 8-14 were capable of telepathy, clairvoyance, X-ray vision, or psychokinesis.
Having already heard about this program, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Lawrence Livermore Laboratories, and the US Army were simultaneously pouring billions of dollars into their own similar research.
Quote from : Wikipedia : First Earth Battalion
The First Earth Battalion was the name proposed by Lieutenant Colonel (LTC) Jim Channon, an American soldier who had seen service in Vietnam, for his idea of a new U.S. military to be organized along New Age lines.
Such a battalion was never formed.
Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Originally posted by A Fortiori
I really love all the information you threw out. In particular this thread as Jon Ronson has always been one of my favorite "writers". THEM: Adventures with Extremists was funny but fair.
For months he lived with extremists to the left and right, and he admits that when he started he had some preconceptions that were softened, if not changed entirely by the end of the whole adventure. He is even friends now with the Weavers (Ruby Ridge) and Alex Jones.
It will take some time to watch all of the videos, but I will. Thanks for sharing.
Wow, that's interesting that's he be-friended Randy Weaver and Alex Jones.
I wonder how that came into being.
Was it because of any connections or due to his book, or what?
I always try to provide as much information as possible and let the conversations begin and the education level increase, because I learn just as much from others as they learn from me.
Originally posted by A Fortiori
He spent time with all of the extremists, but you can tell his affection level for the Weavers was the most high. He even took their side which he states was surprising for him. As for Jones, he was with him during the Bohemian Grove sneak in. I had never heard of Alex Jones until Jon Ronson, actually, and it was THEM that made me want to find out more about him.
Amazon Review :
It's easy to understand why Arlington Road sat on the studio shelf for nearly a year.
No, the film isn't awful; rather, it's an extremely edgy and ultimately bleak thriller that offers no clear-cut heroes or villains.
In other words, Hollywood had no idea how to sell it.
Director Mark Pellington's underrated directorial debut, Going All the Way, suffered the same fate, essentially because the filmmaker's presentation of suburban America often shifts dramatically within the same film.
Characters are usually miserable and bordering on meltdown, no situation is straightforward, and things usually end badly.
Arlington Road begins as an astute study of suburban paranoia.
Michael Faraday (a face-pinched Jeff Bridges, who spends most of the film on the brink of tears) is a college professor who teaches American history courses on terrorism.
He's been a conspiracy freak since his wife, an FBI agent, was killed during a botched raid that feels like a thinly fictionalized reference to the Waco tragedy.
After saving the life of his next-door neighbor's child, he initially befriends the family (Tim Robbins and Joan Cusack), but soon believes the husband is a terrorist.
The first half of the film mocks Faraday: he has no real evidence and is not the most stable of protagonists. Despite the fact that it was government paranoia that got his wife killed, Faraday repeats the same type of behavior.
Pellington shifts gears in the second half, however, and for awhile, it seems that the film has simultaneously sunk into a cheap, high-octane brand of Hollywood entertainment and undermined its own point.
Arlington Road, though, possesses a stunning ending that's a real gut punch, one that may leave you needing a second viewing to catch all of its smartly executed setup. --Dave McCoy
Amazon Review :
As JFK-conspiracy movies go, Executive Action is distinguished by being one of the earliest and one of the best.
This speculative drama draws together some of the theories floating around in 1973 and lay them out in dry, unadorned fashion.
At the center of the conspiracy is a group of right-wing muckymucks who quietly plan the assassination of the president (thanks to their fears about Vietnam, civil rights, and whatever else might be handy).
Burt Lancaster is the most prominent name in the cast, although the film gets much of its gravity from the weathered presence of Robert Ryan, the superb character actor who died not long after completing the project.
Will Geer and John Anderson are also in on the plot.
Scripted by Hollywood pro (and former blacklistee) Dalton Trumbo, the film is unrelentingly grim, but there's something about its very flatness that makes it that much eerier.
Oliver Stone would take the opposite approach in his pinwheeling JFK, but this simple accounting is just as creepy. --Robert Horton
Amazon Review :
Aimed directly at a mainstream audience, The Patriot qualifies as respectable entertainment, but anyone expecting a definitive drama about the American Revolution should look elsewhere.
Rising above the blatant crowd pleasing of Stargate, Independence Day, and Godzilla, director Roland Emmerich crafts a marvelous re-creation of South Carolina in the late 1770s (aided immeasurably by cinematographer Caleb Deschanel), and Robert Rodat's screenplay offers the same balance of epic scale and emotional urgency that elevated his earlier script for Saving Private Ryan.
Unfortunately, Emmerich embraces clichés and hackneyed melodrama that a more gifted director would have avoided.
Instead of attempting a truly great film about the most pivotal years of American history, Emmerich settles for a standard revenge plot with the Revolutionary War as an incidental backdrop.
Quote from Wikipedia : The Patriot
The Patriot is a 2000 epic war film directed by Roland Emmerich, written by Robert Rodat, and starring Mel Gibson and Heath Ledger.
It was produced by the Mutual Film Company and was distributed by Columbia Pictures.
The film mainly takes place in South Carolina (and was entirely filmed there) and depicts the story of an American swept into the American Revolutionary War when his family is threatened.
The protagonist, Benjamin Martin is loosely based on real Continental Army officer Francis Marion and other Revolutionary War figures.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Francis Marion aka The Swamp Fox
Francis Marion (February 26, 1732 – February 27, 1795) was a military officer who served in the American Revolutionary War.
Acting with Continental Army and South Carolina militia commissions, he was a persistent adversary of the British in their occupation of South Carolina in 1780 and 1781, even after the Continental Army was driven out of the state in the Battle of Camden.
Due to his irregular methods of warfare, he is considered one of the fathers of modern guerrilla warfare, and is credited in the lineage of the United States Army Rangers.
Originally posted by djvexd
Actually I tend to think it is moved more to a dark comedy genre in order for more people to swallow the information. If it was a pure drama, more people would not even touch it because of the fact that alot of people still think that PSI abilities even exist or it is for the realm of charlatans and hoaxers. This way more people will let down thier disbelief barriers and soak up more of the tale. JM2C
Originally posted by Orion65
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
I agree, but it doesn't make movie watching any less enjoyable for me. The difference is now I can "see".
Originally posted by Internet Explorer
I'm a big fan of Jon Ronson's books and have to say I'm disappointed this is getting the standard hollywood comedy treatment... viewing the trailer makes it look like Just Another Comedy Movie™
Definitely worth reading the book though, it's highly entertaining... as is his other book Them.