World's Largest Pyramid Discovered @ Lost Mayan City Of Mirador Guatemala

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Well before then.

Had you just watched Indianna Jones and the Crystal Skull?

Originally posted by PenandSword



Note uncovered, not discovered...because they were discovered just not uncovered of it's jungle growth.

Well then Its another way of legally deforest the jungle and expose the drugs

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There seems to be confusion of the time line. I found this. I don't know why people are surprised. It is a well known proven fact that the later Mayan and Aztecs had a habit of building their pyramids and structures on top of older ones and covering them up as they built. Every time I hear about a "New Discovery" I think to myself. I wonder what treasure are buried in them from a much more ancient past.

Central America

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Olmec

Olmec civilization initially flourished at the site of San Lorenzo Tenochtitlán in southern Veracruz province from 1200 to 900 b.c.e. Some radiocarbon dating indicates a presence as early as 1500 b.c.e., and early Olmec settlers may have inhabited the area even before this time. However, most of the site’s monuments that distinguish this civilization date from the mid-1100’s b.c.e. Another important Olmec center, La Venta, in Tabasco province, functioned between 800-400 b.c.e.

These Olmec sites were not true cities but impressive political and religious centers run by an elite of religious specialists and ruling families. Artisans and farmers also figured among their inhabitants. Monumental structures, such as huge platforms 3,000 feet (914 meters) long, 1,000 feet (305 meters) wide, and reaching heights of 150 feet (46 meters), as well as pyramids, altars, and tombs, indicate that these centers served as gathering places for religious rituals and burial sites for the leadership.

At San Lorenzo, elaborate drainage systems and hydraulic works were constructed from joined sections of U-shaped carved stones covered with capstones. These constructions served as aqueducts that channeled water into sacred and decorative pools and created fresh streams running throughout the complex for drinking and bathing. Some flow was also diverted for waste runoff.

The scope of massive labor-intensive projects at these sites suggests the existence of Mesoamerica’s first political state, which exercised strong governmental control and direction over the farming populace.

Also we need to consider that although the Olmec are famous for their Giant Head sculptures that they were also the oldest and seemed to have built the most advanced pyramids way before the Mayans and Aztecs.

The Great Pyramid of Cholula, also known as Tlachihualtepetl (Nahuatl for "artificial mountain"), is a huge complex located in Cholula, Puebla, Mexico. It is the world's largest monument and largest Pre-Columbian pyramid by volume. Main article: Great Pyramid of Cholula

Cholula is most famous as the site of the Great Pyramid of Cholula, the largest man-made pyramid and monument by volume in the world.

The temple-pyramid complex was built in four stages, starting from the 3rd century BCE through the 9th century CE, and was dedicated to the deity Quetzalcoatl.

It is the Oldest and Largest. It is more advanced than all the rest that followed. This small section here is only the small base entrance into the great pyramid. Here are some pictures of the whole thing.


Now if you consider that this is just the small first steps of the base of the pyramid then it really becomes amazing when you consider it's size and age. The picture is of whats thought to be underneath the overgrowth. They built a Catholic church on top of it. I would love to see this one completely excavated.





Here is what the complex would look like if it were to be completely excavated.


Now compare the above to this well known pyramid also located in the area supposedly from a much later period. they are nearly identical and supposedly a thousand years apart. I don't think so.



Pyramid of the Sun

History

The name Pyramid of the Sun comes from the Aztecs, who visited the city of Teotihuacán centuries after it was abandoned; the name given to the pyramid by the Teotihuacanos is unknown.

It was there way before the natives "Rediscovered it" themselves.


Simply becuase we have satellites and other topographical technologies doesn't mean we know where to look.

I doubt there are "thousands " of sites yet to be discovered. I would say more along the lines of hundreds. But who really knows? I mean they are making new discoveries all the time. It's our pure ignorance to think that we know all there is to know about those who came before us.

As time goes by we are going to find more in Central America and South America. Instead of slamming the threads video I for one look forward to learning more about and expanding my understanding of our past.

Now South America

Caral

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Caral: The Earliest Civilization in the New World
The Seeds of the Inca

Early in 2001, a site located on the Pacific coast of Peru which had been known for over a hundred years made headlines all over the world. The site of Caral and the cluster of eighteen similarly dated sites located in the Supe Valley included in what is now called the Caral-Supe Civilization are important because together they represent the earliest known urban settlement in the Americas--nearly 4600 years before the present.

By contrast, the Inca state rose during the 15th century AD; the Nasca Empire about 0 AD; Teotihuacan first flowered ca. 200 BC; Monte Albán about 500 BC; Chavín society 1000 BC; Olmec society 1200 BC. The culture represented by the Supe valley sites dates as early as 2600 BC, when Khufu was building the pyramids at Giza.

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Seems like this was discovered some time ago, since there's an old looking wooden staircase at the top

If you goto the CNN website they have all 4 of the shorts. The scientists admit they have been working there for over 30 years. It's a first that they have brought in the press, but the looters have started there in the last few years too.

Very interesting. Great find. Looking forward to the follow-ups!

That jungle, there's no telling how much is covered by it. I'm hoping for
for another library of mayan books like the ones the spanish burned. So we could possibly get some really ancient truth.
This is the stuff right here OP. SNF
I've always thought of this verse to be prophetic of a great discovery that awaits mankind.
So what! thats just me. A hopeless romantic I know I know.

So" these are the days for which they sat in wait, when ALL would be revealed ". Led Zeppelin 1975

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This story talks about how unknown gods came down to Earth and made a new tipe of living beeing, the man. At first, the man was perfect, just like the gods, He could see as far as gods did and he could live forever. But then, gods decided that the man could be a competitor of the gods themselves and they distroyed and made a new kind of man. An imperfect man

Also quite reminiscent of the Tower of Babel

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I would consider the pyramid of cholula to be far more impressive then the egyptian pyramids. The arhitecture is pretty amazing. Especially for its time.

I need to go and brush up on my Incan, Mayan etc history.

Originally posted by Byrd

Actually, they'd probably be printing one or hundreds of artists would be sculpting them in a variety of sizes, ready to sell when the new cycle started.

With puppy dogs! I want one with puppy dogs!













Or Hooters. That works for me too.

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It would be interesting to see where this pyramid is positioned as referenced by the 19.5 degree grid and the hyper-dimensional theory.

I would like to get a global grid - earth overlay set up and see just how many "pyramids" sit at a 19.5 grid point and where this new huge Guatemala find sits in respect to that grid.

Someone should get Richard Hoagland to get a grid model up for all the World to see. Perhaps when all is uncovered (literally), it will bring back the harmonic universal balance of energy that we need to continue.

WOW, stone age people in the last 2000 years.

I not only think there is more to be discovered in that part of the world but I believe we have just scratched the surface. To base an opinion about ancient civilizations upon the second hand words of a foreign militia and drug Cartels is absurd to put it mildly.

The Maya calendar is thought to be the work of the Olmec people which were gone long before the Maya civilization started. You can add archaeologist and anthropologist to the list of skills that the Maya had. The calendar that the Maya reconstructed was done at a time somewhere in the middle of this 5,000 year cycle. This calendar is based on the cycles of planetary motions and alignments (Venus, Earth our Moon perhaps even Mercury and Mars).

I have felt for a long time now that the secret information hidden within the ancient ruins from around the world is the structures themselves. The reason that we have not yet figured out what this all means is good reason to think that we have yet to reach this level of understanding.

Originally posted by Copernicus
"First TV camera in the world to shoot the pyramid" - Lies. Plenty of pictures on the web already.

Their whole point of that is just advertising, like people must think "I saw it here first, no reason to trust any other news source! They probably just copied cnn!!"

Im thankful anyway because I have never heard of it, er if I watched cnn I would be grateful, thanks to ATS I know about news that doesnt make the news! Also stories that have no basis in fact :S but I let that slide being a conspiracy site

Wasn't there one found recently off the coast of japan, or something?

And, it DID date back older than anything else found - coulda sworn I saw this somewhere.

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by SolPower
Nice Find - S&F

I wonder what implications this has on the comparison between these pyramids and Egyptian pyramids.

None at all. The Egyptian pyramids were built in an entirely different style and were built about 3,000 years before the Mayan pyramids. Egyptian civilization was dead and buried by the time of the Mayas; the Romans were also in decline. The best engineers at the time were in the Middle East, and were building domes and far more complex structures than pyramids.

And does this give the Mayan calendar more weight? And the so called end of a cycle period of 2012?

No. Their calendar ran out in 2012 (not a perpetual calendar) and they'd be busy carving a new one if the civilization had survived the Spanish conquistadores.

Actually, they'd probably be printing one or hundreds of artists would be sculpting them in a variety of sizes, ready to sell when the new cycle started.

Where are you getting your information from.

Ok #1 there is nothing more complex structures than the pyramids. You can't even stick a knife blade between the structured stones. There are lots of theories, like "harmonic resonance" then it being heated, then just letting it dry making it such a flat surface as it is. I have a good movie you should check out. Also has to do with crop circles and pyramids, stone henge, etc.


#2 The mayan calendar is perpetual. It looks like a wheel. From what most of the media shows you on the t.v. and stuff is the Aztec calendar. The mayans calendar was PERPETUAL. Its like an odometer and just tacks on another number. The reason 2012 is a big thing is because it was a rolling over into a "new cycle" they also believed this would come with more enlightment. But with new enlightment they believed it came with a price of bloodshed and lost lives.

I think you need to recheck your research.

Originally posted by Darkrift787
The mayan calendar is perpetual. It looks like a wheel. From what most of the media shows you on the t.v. and stuff is the Aztec calendar. The mayans calendar was PERPETUAL. Its like an odometer and just tacks on another number. The reason 2012 is a big thing is because it was a rolling over into a "new cycle"...

Byrd's comment on the non-perpetual motion of the Maya calendar also caught my eye but there is a difference between cyclical and perpetual. The Maya calendar, or long count, is cyclical but not perpetual and since it is based on the observed motions and alignments of Earth with Venus and Mars it will not last indefinitely. In fact Mars no longer aligns with an Earth/Venus conjunction every 394 years but it is close.

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Nicely layout.. And these mysteries are still unfolding as we speak

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Hey D, I see you found this too!

I would like to point out, as it is my current understanding, the pyramids (China, Egypt, Central/South America) function as precessional clocks. As well as standards for weights and measures. Any empire wishing to maintain their reach of power would take great care to accurately predict the best years for growing, and storing for the lean years. Also such clocks would have to last for generations since they are measuring VERY long cycles. This would explain the size of the cities, which would not have been possible if the pyramid nation missed a beat and was overrun by their neighbors.

they compare the size of the site to modern day Los Angeles, but that is a maddenly vague comparison. What exactly makes up the city of Los Angeles these days?

How does the size of this area compare to ancient Rome?

Are they saying a city the size of ancient Rome, or bigger, existed in the America's at the same time that the Roman civilization was thriving?

If these pyramids are actually built over even more ancient pyramids the way the Mayans built their pyramids, that would be a truly amazing architectural accomplishment.