Of Ancient Wars and Spacecraft

Books and Websites on the subject do exist. I research and write this stuff knowing that other authors will pick up on it and use it for their books. ATS is good with Google-rankings.




I have not come across that, sorry.



I have not come across indicators or ancient accounts of that either. That does not mean these authors are wrong, it really just means I dont know anything about it.

reply to post by Skyfloating

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Hey man... great read and i was just browsing the net before finding your thread on ancient wars.... there's still a lot we don't know about our past and i for one remember a couple of years back of visiopns i had of Ancient wars.... very weird stuff that if i told anyone they would definately call for the 'men in white coats'

I don't know where these visions and thoughts came from but yeh i was told of Ancient wars in Space or maybe it was just my own mind beliving that something like this happened once and i had never read any books on it!!

Here is something which i was going to post about:

Nuclear wars in space and deepest antiquity!

There is a feeling amongst some scientists that a highly deadly form of star wars may be taking place between alien civilisations far out in space. Fodder for these theories comes from unexplained explosions witnessed by numerous astronomers.

Deep space explosions.

Five or six years ago an article in the Herald Tribune it said there had been at least 80 unexplained explosions in deep space during the last decade alone! This had baffled many of the leading scientists and astronomers who were at a complete loss to explain the phenomenon! According to the article the largest of these explosions had occurred "180,000 light years away in the large Magellanic Cloud outside our galaxy"!

The article also related that "Ray Klebesadel, a leading scientist at Los Alamos, said this event was definitely not a supernova!" According to him the explosion was more like a nuclear bomb blast! This was a view also echoed by a nuclear physicist Stanton T. Friedmann who declared: "Tremendous activity of this sort could well be life out there involved in a war"! Another quote is from James Oberg of Houston who is on record as saying: " It is a legitimate theory that star wars may be taking place!"

Controversy.

More recently the continuing phenomenon was dealt with in a piece in the Times of London which outlined the controversy it had sparked! Academics were sharply divided between those who insisted there was no mystery to address and others who were firm converts to the idea of a stellar Armageddon being fought out in the depths of the universe! Some felt the explosions to be no more than igniting meteors in the Earth's upper atmosphere! Then just as adamant was the view that the evidence pointed unmistakably to a point of origin many trillions of miles distant!

Solar system

Significantly prominent occultists and astrologers have always believed that a devastating form of star wars once occurred much closer to home - within the boundaries of our very own solar system! The basis of these views concern the fact that Mars and to some extent the Moon and Venus show signs of once having been filled with running rivers and considerably more of an atmosphere than is presently the case! Conditions that would certainly make the existence of intelligent life possible! But inter-planetary wars in the solar system? Could it really have happened?

Enormous collision.

What we can say for certain is that far from rising up on the planetary scale of evolution Mars and the Moon are actually decaying! They once held a reasonable atmosphere with running rivers but now look sparse, empty and barren! In fact a closer look at the Martian surface shows that at some stage in it's history it was subjected to an enormous collision which literally tore out a canyon over 2500 miles long! Additionally as photos from the Viking landers showed quite plainly the surface of the planet is absolutely strewn with small chunks of rock resembling the debris from some tremendous explosion! But where could such an explosion have come from? The solar system now looks so sedately dormant that it's hard to imagine such violence!

Planet X

For some time it has been theorised that a planet between Mars and Jupiter just literally exploded into fragments to create what we now know as the asteroid belt! Planet X as it became known has attracted much fascination! It's existence was even theorised by a mathematician Johann Bode.

Bodes Law.

According to the theory - known as Bodes Law - actually the work of Johann Titius - there exists a definite and repeatable ratio of the distances of the planets to the sun. Six planets were then known but astonishingly the distance of the others as yet undiscovered were correctly deduced by this law which is now relegated to no more than a baffling coincidence!

What is of great interest to us is that according to this law there should be another planet between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter, exactly where the asteroid belt now lies! Occultists believe this was once the location of a sizeable planet that was literally blown apart by an incredible weapon of destruction, or impact with another planetary body! The former would require a weapon considerably more potent than anything we know today, because although nuclear weapons are quite capable of destroying all surface life, the actual structural existence of the world itself would never be threatened!

Mythology which is habitually an eye to events of long ago frequently makes mention of celestial wars, and even the Bible makes at least one reference to a war in the skies!

The Titans and Olympians.

In a nutshell occultists believe that the planets Venus, Mars and the Moon were once inhabited by advanced societies who fought out a planetary war on a scale outlined in mythology as the clash between the Titans and Olympians! The result was a Solar System in chaos - the destruction of a planet - and the orbital change of Venus to a position considerably closer to the sun! In the break-up vast debris such as seen on Mars would have been thrown out in all directions. The Martian and Lunar atmospheres, together with their rivers and whatever life on them would quite literally have been flung into space rendering the planets forever uninhabitable!

Terrestrial Evidence.

On Earth the evidence of nuclear wars deep in antiquity is even more convincing! Here we not only have the physical scars but the graphically written accounts of some of the most ancient texts on Earth. The Mahabharata, an ancient Indian saga at least five thousand years old speaks of flying machines called Vimanas that were used to launch a powerful weapon of destruction; " a single projectile charged with all the power of the universe!"

Here is a reference concerning the destruction unleashed by two warring sets of adversaries: "The Earth shook, scorched by the terrible heat of this weapon. Elephants burst into flames and ran to and fro in a frenzy, seeking a protection from terror. Over a vast area other animals crumpled to the ground and died. The waters boiled, and the creatures residing therein also died. From all points of the compass the arrows of the flame rained continuously!

Later we find: "An incandescent column of smoke and fire, as brilliant as ten thousand suns rose in all its splendour. It was the unknown weapon, the iron thunderbolt, .....a gigantic messenger of death!" The effect of this weapon was that, "The corpses were so burnt that they were no longer recognisable. Hair and nails fell out. Pottery broke without cause. Birds, disturbed, circled in the air and were turned white. Foodstuffs were poisoned!"

Message for our age.

To any other generation verses of this nature would surely have seemed no more than poetic hyperbole. They had after all nothing to compare them with. Unfortunately we know only too well the awesome capability of nuclear weapons and their immense destructibility, and it would take someone of particularly low imagination to fail to see the similarity between these accounts and what we now know of a nuclear holocaust!

Worldwide perception.

Nor is the Mahabharata the only ancient text to describe such things. Similar accounts of great destruction are also found in the Tibetan Stanzas of Dzyan, the beliefs of the Hopi Indians, and even in the Bible! The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is widely thought of in these terms, particularly since their location is now occupied by the mysterious Dead Sea hollow - one of the most inhospitable places on earth!

Charred ruins.

Written evidence is one thing, but when it comes to physical evidence of these conflicts this too is very imtriguing. Here we enter into the realms of another baffling enigma - the vitrified remains of fortresses, ziggurats, and towers that have been subjected to an unaccountably sharp blast of heat. In his book Secrets of the Lost Races writer Rene Noorbergen talks of charred ruins to be found between the River Ganges in India and the mountains of Rajamahal. "The walls have been glazed, corroded, and split by tremendous heat. Within several of the buildings that remain standing even the surfaces of the stone furniture have been vitrified: melted then crystallised. No natural burning flame or volcanic eruption could have produced heat intense enough to cause this phenomenon. Only the heat released through atomic energy could have done this damage"! Also in this same region a human body was discovered with a radioactivity "which was fifty times above the normal level".

Worldwide phenomenon.

This baffling enigma of vitrified ruins is to be found all across the world. No more so than North America where the strange remains of vitrified rocks and dwelling places defy logical explanation. In South America the Brazilian ruins of Sete Ciddaes are enormously revealing. Author Noorbergen writes of "ruins melted by apocalyptic energies..."! Elsewhere, in Mesopotamia sizeable ziggurats - a form of early pyramid - have been found melted to their base in a vitrified mass!

Hopefully this hasn't been posted already...



[edit on 1-11-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

Here is a little more:

In the Arabian desert blackened stones litter the sands over a wide area, showing signs of having been subjected to intense radiation. In Israel the location of the Dead Sea and it's mysterious connection with Sodom and Gomorrah bears evidence of an amazing focus of heat that is thought to have gouged out the entire area in a massive explosion. Vitrified rock created under intense pressure is a frequent discovery, and in 1952 archaeologists discovered a vitrified area of sand that stretched out over hundreds of square feet! Apparently deposits like this are similar to those left behind at the White Sands atomic testing site in America!

In fact wherever we look in the world the baffling enigma of vitrified ruins challenges our intellect! From Peru, to Scotland and Scandinavia; to the plateau's of China and India, this indelible evidence attests to some undeniably violent act! Not everyone will be convinced of a nuclear answer but as we have seen the evidence is extremely compelling. Intriguingly a number of established scientists also find themselves seduced by the evidence.

Official endorsement.

In 1909 when academics were first beginning to grasp the awesome power of the atom, physicist Frederick Soddy wrote in his Interpretation of Radium: "I believe that there have been civilisations in the past that were familiar with atomic energy, and that by misusing it they were totally destroyed."

Remarkably Robert Oppenheimer the chief of the Manhattan Project that developed the first atomic device - that we know of - watched the test explosion rise up in a vast mushroom cloud and felt moved to quote from ancient Sanskrit: " I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"!

Perhaps Oppenheimer, more than anyone, realised that right then and there, at that very moment, man had become reacquainted with a piece of his history that had once cost him so dearly! The weapon of a "million suns" was again within his possession!

I'm beginning to think that we are doomed to repeat History!!



[edit on 1-11-2009 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

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Thanks for the post. Stuff similar to nuclear bombs and fallout is described in Asian Mythology (see OP), in Vedic Mythology (see your post), in Sumerian Mythology, In Hebrew Scripture and in ancient African legend. So its not entirely unreasonable to assume that those events actually occured...

Very nicely Done Skyfloating.

What I'm wondering is, How did these stories get into the hands of the storyteller.

Even if humans were seeing the battles in the sky they would not know much beyond the battles in the sky.

And the stories themselves sound not like a historical lessen being told by a scholar but rather like a father trying to but history into perspective for a child.

I also think that calling the UFO's flying horses and birds preserves the integrity of the idea being given and insures it's propagation through history which is precisely why you were even able to attempt these threads. If you think about it If we were to replace flying horses and birds with UFO or space craft it would never go further than the history of our current dialect and it's application to our technology. The integrity of the story would ultimately be literally lost in De-evolution.

It only takes about 10,000 years for everything on the surface of the planet to erode and start new if not properly conserved. And if you take into account how the majority of our technology is purposely constructed to be biodegradable I would not be surprised if it took no more than 2,000 years for everything we think is here to stay to, go away.

Hell who knows this might just be why we usually only find metal or stone artifacts. Not because that's the only means people of the very, very ancient times used but because they were the only ones that made it to us through history.

I also find the myths very non human in origin. They sound like stories originally reserved for "star people" but later were modified for human consumption. Like the whole "Aw man.....I don't want to go down there" aspect of all the myths. I don't blame them tho.

I still wonder just how we got our grubby little hands on this info in the first place. Maybe these were once secrets given to the God/king offspring of the star people.

Thanks again,

Izzy.

Good post, good points made.

(Maybe there was an elite-caste among humans who preserved the stories...)

[edit on 2-11-2009 by Skyfloating]

Interesting read. Thanks for posting.

The Carolina bays were created by swirling water that gouged holes into the surface of the earth during the last flood.

The bad lands were created the same way,different area same cause slightly different result,massive amount of water innundating the geagraphical features of the earth and swirling and rushing wherever it needed to go.

These massive eddies bored down to bedrock in some areas.

I watched a video with a small scale lab experiment and it was amazing.

Unbelievable,the type of changes that can happen with a large amount of water being tossed around.

Why does this sound more and more like a cowardly group of government and military people hiding out somewhere after they screwed up the planet with a war??

I have always felt the bible was just a history book,more a warning than anything else,but a warning to STAY AWAY FROM THE GODS,because of the gods careless attitude towards THE MANY and his focused interest in only his own people,THE FEW.

God,never accepted the majority of humanity,only his chosen few,so it was god who told or showed by example that ONLY A SMALL GROUP OF HUMANITY WAS WORTY OR VALUABLE.

Then just how did the majority GET HERE?I guess god really didnt say who or how many or what kind of creatures could live on his planet.We dont know anything about our original creator or if there even is a creator or if our existance is simply a fact of nature.

Neither do the PEOPLE who are recorded in our written history as POSSESING HIGH TECHNOLOGY.


It is pretty easy to see how far we have come in just a thousand years,even the last several hundred have been incredible,something has obviously happened that has caused this incredible technology gain,and it cant be anything other than REDISCOVERING who we are and what is ours.

There is a chance that things have gone a little sour for our "gods".

Maybe the worm is turning and the monkey has a loaded gun in his hand and he doesnt want to let go.

What would you do with a little kid who found your guns and your adult toys when you were away?What if all your hiding places had been discovered?

What if the little bugger pointed one of those loaded guns at you and told you he wanted to know where the cookies were AND RIGHT NOW POPS!!

This is how it seems to be to me.

Someone went to work and they are on their way home and we better clean up the house and put everything back where it was hidden,either that or we better be ready to put one in daddys forhead when he decides to take his gun back and spank our butt.

You see,we have a problem,we better be ready to make it completely on our own if we bite the hand that has fed us!!!

And on the other hand once you find out about all the grown up things mom and dad are doing you are supposed to ASPIRE to have what they have and do what they do.

Maybe this is our next step,I hope mom and dad dont decide to kick us out of the house or off the planet,kinda feels that way to me.

Even if we lecture dad about his guns and stuff when he gets home,one way or the other ,we still looked for and found them,we still broke all the rules and played with all his toys and did all the things that were his things to do,there has to be some kind of lesson taught here.

I doubt it will ever happen, but I would hope that ALL GOVERNMENTS ARE TAKEN INTO CUSTODY IMMEDIATLY BY DAD, SO THEY CAN ANSWER FOR THEIR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY ALONGSIDE ALL RELIGOUS LEADERS.

Its not fair to spank everyone ,someone had to be babysitting us and they are responsible for letting the kids run wild and mess up the house.

The Old Testament Gods were certainly not the God Jesus talks about. Thats my take on it.

For some reason I cant seem to find a war in human history that wasnt related to religon in some large way.

Could this be because nobody in their right mind would take the chance of risking their very life without their GOD on their side and fully supporting them?Could it be that since ancient times all wars have happened because instead of religon bringing all of humanity together THEY IN FACT SPREAD US APART.

Well this is what happened, maybe the tower of babel actually allowed us all to communicate with a type of mental internet?

Religon takes advantage of the window of opportunity that the lagtime between something actually physically happening and people knowing about it or being able to confirm creates.

Do you understand what I mean by lagtime?

This is how we have been manipulated for so long and why KNOWLEDGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN SYNONYMOUS WITH POWER.

A human beings reality is directly related to the current input of information that that individual is recieving,if that information stops or falls behind and is not current then that human being is "left behind"if you will,this is what has been done to billions of human beings,they have been STRANDED IN REALITIES OR PERSPECTIVES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED,DIRECTED,AND MANIPULATED BY OTHER HUMANS WITH THE EXPLICIT INTENT OF ENSLAVING THEM THROUGH THE WITHHOLDING OF KNOWLEDGE OR CURRENT REALITY.

This is how it is possible for us to be landing on the moon and "discovering"a new tribe in the Amazon AT THE SAME TIME,how some people can be rich in material goods and others can be starving to death AT THE SAME TIME.

Each religon is SIMPLY A PLACE WHERE HUMANS CAN CONGREGATE IN ORDER THAT THEY MAY ENJOY THE SECURITY OF SHARING A COMMON REALITY WITH OTHERS LIKE THEMSELVES---THE PROBLEM IS THAT RELIGON IS DESIGNED TO KILL AND DESTROY OTHER PERSPECTIVES IN ORDER THAT RELIGON MAY GROW AS IF IT HAD A PHYSICAL LIFE OF ITS OWN.

As a result we have thousands of religons that have taken the place OF ONE RELIGON,and we have been conditioned to FEAR one single perspective,or one single reality,in fact we spend our entire lives SEARCHING FOR WAYS TO SHARE others perspectives or realities UNTIL WE ENTER A RELIGON NO MATTER WHICH ONE IT IS BECAUSE THEN WE STOP SEARCHING ,and that is when we begin to FEAR the NATURAL URGE to share one single reality or perspective with the entire planet.

In fact BECAUSE of our religon we ARE NOT ABLE to share the reality of anyone but our "brothers and "sisters of the faith".We live next to each other but our realities are worlds apart,so far apart that we will kill our own brothers in the name of an illusionary divine power.That which is supposed to bring us together has been bastardized to keep us apart and killing each other in the name of a divine illusion that doesnt exist ,and I am not talking about the concept of one creator of all life in the Universe,I am talking about every religon that subscribes to an individual doctrine that in any way shape or form tolerates killing or manipulation through the withholding of material needs or human association as a means to destroy others perspectives and as a means to "grow"their own reality under the protection of a DIVINE ALL POWERFUL ENTITY.

All religons need to come together right now at this point in our history as a species.

They have all served their purpose,which was to lead humanity to the technological level we are now at by keeping us in large enough groups that we could organise societies and progress forward,like a hundred little bees working together to fill the hive with honey,but every time one bee sees another it never has a clue what the other bee is really doing ,ALTHOUGH THEY ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING SOMETHING OR SOMEONE HAS ALTERED US SO WE JUST KEEP ON FLYING BY EACH OTHER INTO THE HIVE WITHOUT HAVING ANY IDEA WHY WE ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING.

The time is ripe for one global religon to be made available to humanity ,a consortium of all existing religons and any new religon that pops up as well,everyone HAS A RIGHT TO BE HEARD AND TO CARRY THEIR PERSPECTIVE OR REALITY FORWARD ---AS LONG AS THE BEST INTERESTS OF HUMANITY ARE PUT FORWARD AS BEING MORE IMPORTANT THAN WORSHIPPING YOUR "GOD".

What I am saying is NO MORE KILLING in the name of illusionary divine entities.

No more killing of humans period.

Take away god and you take away forgiveness for any sin committed in the name of said ILLUSIONARY DIVINE ENTITY.Including murder.

If you cant hurt,harm,kill,or otherwuse manipulate other people IN THE NAME OF GOD AND UNDER THE ILLUSION OF DIVINE FORGIVENESS----WHAT WOULD WE NEED RELIGONS FOR??

My point is so clear,I steadfastly maintain that AWAKENING is simply academic,the more you learn about our world the LESS YOU WILL SUBSCRIBE TO ANY ORGANISED RELIGON THAT EXISTS TODAY.

If you were born in captivity you CANNOT UNDERSTAND FREEDOM.


Billions of us were born in captivity and BECAUSE OF OUR INABILITY TO EVEN UNDERSTAND THE TRUE CONCEPT OF FREE WILL have made a career out of killing,burning and otherwise silencing those who understand and can teach TRUE FREE WILL TO OTHERS.

Religon has been the tool that has been used to STOP MANKIND FROM GETTING OFF OF THIS ROCK AND EARNING THE RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE IN A NEW AND EXCITING REALITY OUT IN THE UNIVERSE WHERE WE CAME FROM.

Find me a religon that can do as SPOCK says should be done"THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW" on a global scale you manipulators who were already saying in their heads "my god does that,he supports the needs of the many{of his followers that is}".

Global scale because once you take that step YOU ERASE ALL RELIGONS AS WE KNOW THEM FROM HUMANITIES COLLECTIVE REALITY.
We wont need them and they only exist because SOMEONE NEEDS THEM TO ACHIEVE SOME TYPE OF NASTY AGENDA.

Dont you see that someone or some people who are controlling us THINK JUST LIKE I DO,except they ARENT ON YOUR SIDE.I am.

If you understand what I just said and would like some support in overcoming this "perspective short circuiting"just u2u me,I will reply.

You dont need me though you just need to keep on learning about your world because the more you learn the further away from religon you will grow and the closer to the rest of humanity you will lean.

By learn I mean "blame"start to blame someone or something for the mess we are in,BECAUSE SOMEONE SOMEWHERE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A WHOLE LOT OF MISERY AND DEATH o






[edit on 2-11-2009 by one4all]

This could be due to the late hour, but there are a couple of things I dont quite understand..

1. Why would the earth & humans get dragged into this war unwillingly? Of all the other planets including these Gods own planets and/or magical floating palaces.. why earth?

2. Im not clear on what sort of relationship humans had with these Gods.. We come across as being quite inferior to these more advanced races, yet we were told about meetings they etc & various other things which humans wouldnt know through observation only. If the war had nothing to do with us, and these Gods decided that the whole thing should be swept under the carpet then why do we have that information?

Oh and another thing.. more annoying than anything else - 20 million words and no reference to any particular location (as in star system etc) where any of these Gods came from.. typical!


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Humans arent being dragged in,we are born in,we were put here on earth to mine the planet for resources and to be a manpower resource,we are a military asset.

That is why we are here and why we are in a Galactic war.

Earth because it was far away from the battle zones,we are a hidden or hopefully still hidden military asset.

This planet was terraformed for this purpose.Our weather patterns are installed via the moon and its gravitational effects.

I dont know why earth got dragged into the feud. Maybe there is something special about humans...maybe not...



These are important second-step questions that will be asked once the first step is accepted or proven. I could only speculate and would thereby build myths of my own. The ancient scriptures do talk about motivations, reasons etc. but it would take another few weeks to really research that and compare the various sources. All Ive done for now is provide evidence for the first step...that ETs MAY have visited us in pre-history.

And before that "may" doesnt turn into harder fact Im reluctant to speculate. What is apparent though is that some Gods liked humans and others did not.




Origins are mentioned in ancient texts. The ancients had different names for the stars. The Pleiades often play a role as do other star-systems. But it took me several days to sift through the Epic quoted in the OP to get what I did get. If some other researchers would sift through the rest of this text and a few hundred other texts from the ET-perspective, more information could be gathered.

Good posts above, though don't agree with the concept of the one religion. I am very spiritual and pray to Mother (occasionally to Father when I need this element) often, seeking to discover the way that would best serve Her. But no religon is needed. This is merely metaphysical, individual work. The only way I would wish to meet with others in this matter is to seek information, ie. workshops from someone with advanced knowledge, (though in the current banking system can't afford them) or for joining intents to manifest.

However, the reason we are in this war, is because we were born to be in it is somewhat true. But the bigger reason is because this war has existed for millions of years, and possibly far longer, and possibly from previous universal systems that have completed themselves. It is the ongoing fight between those who wish to be free from those who wish to enslave. It is dark and light. Very few sheltered planets exit. In order to be in that position at all, you would have to be a master race with such advanced technology no one would be able to mess with you.

There is a physical side to this and a spiritual side to everything and as you advance in your psi and density, the spiritual side is more understood by people.



Really big mess, and its no wonder Divine Mother has a river of sorrow so great that the High Council and archangels have no means of healing it, and the universe is separating apart further each day. While I greatly admire the freedom fighters and protectors and heros, because the fight for freedom is real and there is no greater cause than freedom and restoration of free will and evolution, there must also be those who spend time in meditation and visualize oneness, unity, redemption, wake ups on all sides. Of course, every advanced person could be doing both and participating in each to various degrees.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by Unity_99]

It would seem that there are beings-in-flesh...Extraterrestrials posing as "Gods" as opposed to the actual Supreme Infinite Creator/Source. And maybe this is a reason many tried to teach Monotheism...to get people to quit workshipping alien megalomaniacs.

Or maybe all the God posing aliens were trying there best to teach their own Monotheistic Religion until A really Big Megalomaniac showed up and narrowed it down to a closely related few.

Could we all be spawn, at least in the flesh, from these older God posing ETs? If so how would the new big Megalomaniac feel about that?

My biggest Question is why oh why are us ants, on this mote of dust, So popular?

Because if there is one thing I am sure of it's that the True Supreme Infinite Creator/Source dose not require my worship. I think the Supreme would be a bit above that.

Certainly. My personal view of the bigger picture is one Supreme "Source"/Infinity and everything "within it" merely being an aspect of that Infinity, merely being part of the game rather than the ultimate gameboard/game-creator.

In zooming in on these "lesser Gods" there appears to be some deception going on.

You ask "Why us ants?". Well, apparently we're of some importance to them. There are millions of scenarios I could think up. But since the Universe seems to be a game of energy, the motivation behind all acts would seem to be "to get energy", implying that it is lacking for some.

But thats for the metaphysical-section, isnt it.

Why us ants? Because we are not ants. Though I'd rather not put down any form of life, for our teachers and watchers are also incarnated into nature.

Whether we are incarnated from the afterlife to this world for various reasons, or wether we are astrally projecting into this life, from our base of operations, or an aspect of self projecting here, and there are many ways it is done, there are millions of starseeds here, and walk ins as well. Not to mention that everyone is a cosmic citizen, just some processed here for too long, and controlled, like slaves.

We are the living library as well, established to benefit many different peoples and galaxies.
Since the negative takeover, this has been sabotaged to some extent. We are also all aspects of higher self, who is an advanced higher dimensional cosmic citizen, we are one, and those who are positive are very aware of this, we have families, and they do check in on us and care for us. This is about light and love.

Even greys are lovable, though they may not be liked for what they're doing at all times. They, like humans, have fascist leaders mainly, especially zetans, yet many of them are very advanced thinkers, and scientists. We're not to judge anyone, for we are one. Many in one.

Also the multiverse/omniverse is interconnected and wisdom looks up from the bottom of the well. In that contact that involved a cultural exchange being mentioned I felt that we have much information and experiences and knowledge, and that this is very valuable.


Humans count, each and every single person here counts very much. The entire multiverse is overseen by the Creator, the Council of Nine, archangels and we exist on different levels, multidimensionally as well. There is a plan for every life. Advanced Ets serve. They are team players.



Wisdom looks up from the bottom of the well. Earth is a base level planet, amongst many, that are living libraries and is foundational in this mulitiverse. We are interconnected. We're not ants.

[edit on 11-11-2009 by Unity_99]

The poster used that as an allegorical point of reference. What we "are" or "are not" depends upon perspective/context. From one perspective we are Infinite, from another we are a soul, from another we are an ant.

But thats not really the subject of this thread. The subject is "Evidence for Extraterrestrial Visitation in Ancient Times".