reply to post by adama1
I'm going to ask you politely to raise the level of your discourse. I have not insulted you, nor have I been disrespectful. Your opening sentence was
You have three main points in your reply:
1) You discuss Stepinac. I have already stated that I don't think either one of us will ever know the truth of what happened in Croatia during and
immediately after WWII. What we do know is that he was tried by Tito following WWII for complicity in atrocities during the war. This trial was
considered a farce by most western powers and was seen as an attempt to separate the people from their religion by destroying their religious leader
as they moved into a new era of communism, the trial was repudiated by people such as Louis Brier, head of the American Association of Jews at the
time and his prosecutor, Jokov Blazokiv, admitted in 1985 that Stepinac was set up and was framed due to his refusal to break from the Church.
So, I'm using non-Catholic sources to say that neither of us knows the truth here. You are using anti-Catholic sources to speak with certainty. Is
that at all troubling to you?
2) You mention the Concordat without saying what you believe is objectionable. I don't see you exhibiting similar outrage for other supranational
entities having treaties and agreements with Germany during the same time period, such as Poland, Russia, France and Britain. You also don't seem to
mind that fact that Hitler FOUNDED the German Protestant Church.
And again, I implore you to use sources that have at least a modicum of neutrality and academic esteem. As laughable as it is, I do appreciate your
link to wikipedia.
3) You imply (and almost outright state) that the only reason that Catholics aided Jews in WWII was to convert them. This flies in the face of the
fact that in almost every case of a country being held by the Nazis, those that were predominantly Catholic had a smaller percentage of Jews killed
than those that were predominantly Protestant. In addition, the country that had the LEAST amount of Jews killed (by population percentage) was Italy.
You seem to take your responsibility in spreading calumny against people who risked their own lives to save others very lightly. You might want to
tread with care. Bearing false witness is serious and the context makes it more so.
In summation, I'm certainly willing to accept a nuanced argument and entertain the possibility that more could have been done or done better by
Catholics in general and the Catholic hierarchy itself. I have offered you quotes from non-Catholic sources and asked you to similarly refrain from
not using sources who 'have a dog in the fight'.
That you seem to see things in black and white and utilize resources that are clearly biased is telling. The fact that you use personal invective and
try to assail the poster and not the post is more so.