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reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 09:59 AM by Solomons
reply to post by Aceofclubs



I said nothing of the sort.Simply said we should not adhere or comply to certain countries traits or views for the mere fact that we do things differently and they do not. Viewing things that way is frankly dangerous.


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reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 10:13 AM by Aceofclubs
reply to post by SmokeJaguar67



thats the type of thing that should be stoped in a free country
everybody should get a fare chance to make there pitch i think mr griffin is a brave man hes the only one saying anything about immigration and will be punished by the MSM and establishment for doing so.. the mans a hero(only in this respect)


reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 10:18 AM by Aceofclubs
reply to post by Solomons



would ypu be so kind as to explane in what way is it a dangerous way to view things, i don`t see how lookin whats going on globaly should be dangerous


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reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 10:23 AM by Solomons
reply to post by Aceofclubs



Looking globally is not dangerous. Comparing our country to another and changing it simply because another country views things differently than us is. Where does it end exactly if we take that view? Next we will be comparing ourself to Sudan and asking why we do not enact policies they have...


reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 12:04 PM by Solomons
reply to post by Aceofclubs



Islam is a religion,not a culture. Millions of muslims integrate just fine into our culture,those that don't? i agree,we should kick out. It seems i didn't understand your meaning,but make no mistake it is a very small minority of muslims that you are talking about.


reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 01:34 PM by SmokeJaguar67
Originally posted by Aceofclubs
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post by SmokeJaguar67



thats the type of thing that should be stoped in a free country
everybody should get a fare chance to make there pitch i think mr griffin is a brave man hes the only one saying anything about immigration and will be punished by the MSM and establishment for doing so.. the mans a hero(only in this respect)


I am in complete agreement with you there that this is a free country (as free as you can be in these times) and that everyone has a right to be heard as long as what they say stays within the law – which happens to be a joke but I won’t digress.

I am on record as stating my low opinion of Mr Griffin because of his beliefs but that does not detract from the terrible way he was treated by those who espouse objectivity and fairness.

Mr Griffin received none from the panel or addressees and that is their shame and their failing. Was Mr Griffin brave to enter into that snake pit of detestation?

I am not sure about that because I think he expected and hoped for a rough ride. He is forever focused on the big game, and accepting the invitation to join question time simply furthered his aims.

I think the man is a paradox as some of the things he talks about in regard to immigration do find some resonance with me and I do grudgingly have to concede that in my opinion that some aspects of his manifesto seem to be quite sensible. However it is mixed in with racist rhetoric which is so extreme it could never see the light of day unless the majority of the United Kingdom became fascist in a very short space of time.



reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 03:55 PM by Aceofclubs
reply to post by Solomons

islam is a culture other wise there would be no clash of cultures would there?www.thefreedictionary.com...

i think its time the word fascist was put to bed its a word with no meaning look for a Definition it has too many to be a useful word it been redused to a lable to slap on any one who will discus race or multi-culture issues i mean here look

www.thefreedictionary.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Almost totaly irelivant


reply posted on 12-1-2010 @ 03:26 PM by Charles Naton
The rise of the BNP is driven largely by the individual desperation and exasperation of people who have been systematically robbed of the right to air their opinions, be they interesting, questioning or downright offensive. A word in the wrong place or at the wrong time might cost you your job and ruin your future. Unsubstantiated allegations of any sort of "ism" can effectively blight a family for a whole generation (just ask anyone in the public sector, if they still have the courage to be honest).
In much the same way as the global warming industry, the PC thought police have turned sensible and reasoned discussion regarding legitimate sociological and economic issues into some kind of crime. It has now become a punishable offence to be caught holding certain views in your own mind (sound familiar?). And to make matters worse, that punishment is often extra-judicial, handed down by some unelected, unaccountable and mysterious quango. Either that or the politicised police and courts come down hard on anyone caught using language which in the final analysis, might hurt somebody's feelings. As far as I know, nobody ever died from being called names.
The rise of the BNP is not inevitable, and here's a couple of suggestions as to how the wind might be taken out of their sails.
Repeal all hate crime legislation. Assault is still assault, and adding any hate element simply has the effect of making one victim more or less important than another.
Repeal all communication legislation save for libel (slander is usually very hard to prove objectively). Let every idiot blowhard make a fool of himself and show his true colours. Let all politicians and campaigners be seen for what they really are, and not what they're allowed to say legally.
If the leaders of the UK's mainstream parties could visit living rooms across the land they'd hear the same thing a thousand times. They'd be told, "I'm voting BNP, and damn you for making me do it."


reply posted on 12-1-2010 @ 03:40 PM by unicorn1
reply to post by Amagnon



Amagnon you got that right.
Question Time was just a get Nick Griffen set up.
And the fact that the UK was originally settled with different races - what does that prove? The fact is that all of us, including immigrants have evolved into a specific culture. But that has been turned on its head now by the takeover of large areas and whole cities by one particular culture which does not want to integrate. We are not talking about some happy clappy multi ethnic mix here.
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