Originally posted by conspiracyrus
reply to post by Janky Red
Thats the thing ... your opening a new can of worms asking for federal interaction with health care. I didnt previously state this but do you expect
congress and PTB to authorize an expenditure for health care without knowing exactly what they are signing... this is where Occam's razor comes into
play ... isn't it sound enough to say that before allowing money to flow from the government to say doctors, that those same doctors will have to
report what they are prescribing medication for? And by itself isn't that a blatant violation of the right to privacy?
And not to be pushy but i will also ask you, Why would anyone ask for their rights to be invaded other than a huge number of people (30 million) that
dont have insurace?
but 30 million from 300 million makes 270 million people who can actively (if they want) purchase healthcare. which makes this bill a "minority
cause" meaning that our "rule by the majority" a joke....
unfortunately they only included statistics from people who dont have insurance, meaning the ultra rich who dont get insurance, the people who pay out
of pocket are included into this 30 million uninsured
the fact is the numbers are over hyped and if they actually stated what percentages were, doesn't that make everyone who would really need this
legislation have a different idea of what "universal health care" is?
I hate to say it ... but what if you have alot of money and decide to just go with public option until you have a problem... Please, need an organ
... pay the guy 1 million dollars and he'll donate it...
Its elitism at its pure and finest
[edit on 24-10-2009 by conspiracyrus]
[edit on 24-10-2009 by conspiracyrus]
I guess it is a matter of priority, I am fairly certain that privacy is a dead duck.
My concern is that there are millions ( more than entire nations) of Americans who
are frozen out of the system due to financial reasons. I also consider good medical treatment a necessity in a modern first world nation. These low
paying jobs are a constant, vital part of our society and thusly the lack of funds to pay healthcare will
remain a constant. Just as consistent, is the fact the private premiums will reflect the uninsured in the current market.
So for me the entire supersedes laissez faire capitalism or almost any other concern.
With the last Pro business administration we saw costs just about double and I am not convinced any free market forces could or WOULD even freeze the
current prices.
If the goal is to make profit, then what makes anyone think the industry will take action
that would reduce pay and margins?
As it is the current price of a family policy is $13,000 a year -
So I could ask you, what makes you think a Mcdonalds cashier could even cover a policy for their family at the current rate?
Not to mention that if you apply the current rate of inflation this policy will cost
$20,000 by the end of the next decade.
Do you personally know any person or business who can afford $20,000 a year?
I know few, two maybe...
that is also elitist
Sadly I think she is that seriously ignorant and more than on just this issue.
