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Originally posted by ATH911
I'd like to ask the skeptics, who was the alleged FDNY Commander that Larry said called him?
Originally posted by mmiichael
Unlikely Silverstein came out ahead. Insurance collecting is rarely rewarding.
Originally posted by Lillydale
Originally posted by mmiichael
Unlikely Silverstein came out ahead. Insurance collecting is rarely rewarding.
So you can show us that he suffered a loss then? So far all accounts show that he made out just fine because the insurance was there to act as um...a kind of insurance against all the things you listed. Are you just guessing again?
www.liveleak.com...
Another popular CT claim is that Larry Silverstein purposefully demolished his own buildings to profit from the insurance money. This couldn't be further from the truth of the situation. Larry lost billions.
Originally posted by mmiichael
Live Leak tore apart the popular myth about Silverstein profiting with insurance.
Under a pending agreement, a developer and his investors will get back most of the down payment that they made to lease the World Trade Center just six weeks before a terrorist attack destroyed the twin towers. Developer Larry Silverstein and investors Lloyd Goldman and Joseph Cayre are nearing a deal that would give them about $98 million of their original investment of $124 million, The New York Times reported Saturday.
Instead of renovation, Silverstein is rebuilding, funded by the insurance coverage on the property which 'fortuitously' covered acts of terrorism. Even better, Silverstein filed TWO insurance claims for the maximum amount of the policy, based on the two, in Silverstein's view, separate attacks. The total potential payout is $7.1 billion
Originally posted by mmiichael
Silverstein and investors lost billions. The false Truther fabrications highlighted in the video.
New York City lost billions in unrealized income streams, infrastructure repairs, and clean up costs.
Cumulative loss to the US economy close to a trillion.
Originally posted by Anti-Evil
reply to post by GoodOlDave
well dave if he ordered to pull firefighters from the building... interesting since they were pulled earlier in the day according to my sources.
and this eye witness died mysterously.
www.youtube.com...
gee dave why don't you ask a fireman.... ?
'It said it felt like I was stepping over people, but I never saw them. You know, that’s the way they [the 'Loose Change' makers] portrayed me and I didn’t appreciate that so I told them to pull my interview.
Do I think that our government would do something like that to its people? No. I honestly don’t believe that’ (Barry Jennings' comments - 47 minutes 36-47:51)
Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.
So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandeis came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.
Capt. Chris Boyle /e7bzp
Deputy Chief Peter Hayden
Division 1 - 33 years
...also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Center would collapse. Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors. It came down about 5 o’clock in the afternoon, but by about 2 o’clock in the afternoon we realized this thing was going to collapse.
Firehouse: Was there heavy fire in there right away?
Hayden: No, not right away, and that’s probably why it stood for so long because it took a while for that fire to develop. It was a heavy body of fire in there and then we didn’t make any attempt to fight it. That was just one of those wars we were just going to lose. We were concerned about the collapse of a 47-story building there. We were worried about additional collapse there of what was remaining standing of the towers and the Marriott, so we started pulling the people back after a couple of hours of surface removal and searches along the surface of the debris. We started to pull guys back because we were concerned for their safety.
www.firehouse.com...
"http://m.digg.com/politics/Barry_Jennings_Testimony_Confirms_WTC_7_Was_Blown_Up_Before?offset=20
This stuff has been debunked for ALONG time: "This interpretation can be verified by a corroborating account in the Traverse City Record-Eagle , where Barry Jennings identifies himself as the person with Michael Hess, and confirms that this happened at the time of WTC 1’s collapse.
Some within the Truth Movement dispute this, taking Mr. Jennings’ timeline and vagaries in other commentary to mean that the event must have taken place before WTC 1 collapsed, or in fact even before WTC 2 collapsed, but our interpretation can be verified in two ways.
First, an isolated explosion of that size would have been detected by seismographs, and would also have left visible damage on the outside the building. The seismic records prove there was no such event – only the two aircraft impacts, the two collapses, and related effects like air blast appear between 8:40 AM and noon, nothing else. There are also no corroborating reports, such as from the many rescue workers who had set up a triage center in the lobby of WTC 7, evacuating after WTC 2 collapsed and damaged the lobby area. Video also shows WTC 7 standing undamaged until WTC 2 collapsed.
Second, Mr. Hess and Mr. Jennings were briefly trapped in WTC 7, and were not freed until well after WTC 1 had collapsed, yet they only report these events above. It is not credible for them to have felt a minor explosion prior to the collapses, and then failed to notice the impacts from the collapse of WTC 1. We therefore understand that there was no such explosion, and these events are one and the same. Even if this mystification of Mr. Jennings’ statements was valid, it is unclear why an explosion would have been triggered so long before WTC 7 collapsed, as it could serve no useful purpose."