I can't believe what some of you are still today posting here.

You have gone way beyond any common sence what so ever defending the Govt.

You are so stuck on the left vs right that you can't even see the picture at all.

You better snap out of it before you find your self with this;

You've been weighed, You've been measured, and you have been found Wanting.

And that would be Wanting your freedom back....................

Originally posted by aCurious1
It's amusing to see some of the "outrage" and expressions of "unprecedented" on this issue. How quickly one forgets all that the bush admin did to exclude the "liberal" media from coming near bush...

I'm the one who suggested that this tactic regarding blocking a single news source from access to the administration is unprecedented.

I don't recall anything like this happening.

If you have evidence that the Bush 43 did this, I'd like to see it. I never remember Bush bashing his detractors, whether they were from the media or the public.

Bush never had one bad word to say about Cindy Sheehan even while she staked out his ranch in Texas and created many problems for Crawford, TX, for example.

Obama has trashed the tea party participants and has declared a war on Fox.

Show us the evidence.

[edit on 2009/10/23 by GradyPhilpott]

Originally posted by ZombieOctopus

If it's so easy to tell the difference between commentary and real news, why do so many people parrot the commentary as if it provided real facts?

Your bias is equal to the bias you are accusing others of. You can't see that?

Remember this topic is about freedom of speech. Either you believe in it or you don't. Either you want everyone to have the same rights or you don't. If you only want those you agree with to have it, you are opposed to free speech and it is that simple.

Originally posted by candide
Fox sued for their right to lie and won..


You are better off watching Daily Show on Comedy Central than Fox as a news consumer

According to your citation, Fox did not sue for the right to lie, but to confirm that the grounds for the suit against them were not valid. There is a big difference.

The citation does not include any facts about the full nature of the alleged false information or all the conditions that led to the dismissal of the reporters.

The matter at hand here is not that Fox always gets the facts correct, but that they are a valid news agency.

Originally posted by paranoiaFTW
In my America ... Fox News is one of the biggest problems. They are the opposite of progress ....

Actually, the opposite of "pro" is "con". The former being "in favor of" and the latter "against or contrary to". By that, the opposite of "Progress" would be "Congress".
(My hat tipped to comedian Nipsey Russell for pointing this out approximately two decades ago.)

[edit on 10/23/2009 by abecedarian]

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Although I don't watch other new sources anymore because of being sickened by years of overtly biased news reporting on the broadcast networks, I have to give them a tip of the hat for standing up for Fox News.

I'll agree that now that Obama is in office there are a few gems that will be snuck out of Fox to get the Elephants pissed at the Jackasses they are far from "fair and balanced"

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Really? They cant figure out that this behavior is only emboldening Fox and Fox's audience?

Either they're all a bunch of grade-A morons or there is something else going on.

Yes this is ominous, they are doing something novel here to deliberately piss off the Elephants, too soon to tell exactly to what end though. Perhaps to incite a revolt? The Elephants have all the guns so perhaps it would be something along the lines of a "1933 Business Plot" repeat with Elephants in place of WWI veterans? Fox has already shown it's control over this demographic with the Teabag Movement protesting all other news agencies but Fox.


[edit on 23-10-2009 by wanderingwaldo]

Originally posted by Blaine91555

I think a lot of people choose a side and then let the Party do the thinking for them so they don't have too. That is what will bring the country down in the end. Intellectual laziness.

The left is so virulent that anyone who disagrees with them will incur the fullness of their wrath. If you are a young person and you run with a liberal crowd or you attend a liberal school, you can lose most of your friends and have your education derailed by those who would destroy you for your convictions.

Peer pressure is extremely effective and it is employed with full force in these circles.

The thing I always notice about these attacks on conservatives, Republicans, and Fox News, etc., is that the attacks, no matter who I hear them from, all sound the same. It's almost like they are being quoted and these attacks pop up nearly at the same time.

When a person truly states his convictions, he does not need to quote someone else, though he might choose to do so. A man of conviction can speak from his heart and in his own words.

This is a quality that I find missing in the arguments of so many on the left. There is so little conviction and so much hate.

Sadly, though, this trait is not exclusive to the left.

[edit on 2009/10/23 by GradyPhilpott]

So because some people don't agree with what fox reports then they must be invalid? Yet on that same token, I don't agree with the perspective that MSNBC brings to the table while being mostly sympathetic towards Fox reporting....mostly. So then with that logic when the next conservative based administration comes into power and if they begin to snub MSNBC because of their biased reporting would it be acceptable to you morons if we supported that? Hell no! Don't be such douche bags, we all see things differently, Al Jazeera has their biases, BBC has theirs, Tokya Today has theirs....MSNBC is extremely biased.....So I thank you all to respect a multitude of different eyes on this administration is the way it should be and has to be, lest we end up like Venuzuela or Cuba, ect.

But this is actually a blessing for them to tip their hand in this manner, it only further illustrates the point that these right wing outlets have been telling you, and that is been simply....Beware of this man, beware of these people surrounding him and beware of your own misguided culpability in everything that happens in their name!

Originally posted by whackamole
YES MSNBC is Biased; however the run credible non-spun news stories without spin during most of the day. They do have programs that make them cheerleaders for Obama, true, but what the WH is saying is that FOX is anti-Obama all the time.....have you watched Fox and Friends?

By the way this all started because Obama did not grant Fox an interview a few sunday's back - now they are at war with him and not the other way around.....don't loose perspective just cuase you are a consertative....

It's really difficult to take you seriously when you "loose" your ability to spell.
When I LOSE my temper, and try to defend my beliefs, I do it in a way that makes my point seem intelligent. Maybe Acorn can help fox news out.

Originally posted by wanderingwaldo
Fox has already shown it's control over this demographic with the Teabag Movement protesting all other news agencies but Fox.

I was with you until you got to this.

Fox News picked up on the tea party movement.

Fox News covered the phenomenon, while the other news networks either ignored it or maligned it.

There was no need for the tea party movement to protest Fox News. Fox was out there reporting.

What was protested was one "journalist" who while on camera maligned and denigrated the protestors and she did incur their wrath.

It should be noted that while she did nearly soil her pants on camera, she escaped unscathed.

It's good to get the facts straight.

[edit on 2009/10/23 by GradyPhilpott]

Fox isn't news and anyone with an I.Q. over 50 knows this. I suppose they should let American Idol judges in as well? Ha.

P.S. Fox is now pushing McCains agenda to destroy the internet so enjoy ATS while you still can because soon it will cost you $19.95 a month to enable ATS at your ISP.