50 year old cartoon about American Life - Must See!

Originally posted by MAD ABSOLUTE GOD
Yugio? God I hope that's a joke.
This is merely a fallacious appeal to tradition.

"Remember when some folks couldn't vote, and women were basically property? Pepperidge Farm remembers."

LMAO that's exactly how I saw it, it's clearly traditionalist sentimental garbage propaganda. To hell with this stupid and dated nonsense.

i must agree this cartoon seems to have more sense than all our world lleaders rubbed together. which is worrying

truth

I will definitely agree that this film is Cold War traditionalist propaganda. The capitalist is the old guard and defender of the old way of life whereas the Dr. Utopian ISM is seen as an evil person trying to divide everyone and make them go crazy. It certainly is hypocritical to claim that Marxism is a bad ism and that if you go towards ISMS than you're just signing away your freedom when they are supporting an ISM themselves (capitalism). That does strike of irony to me. But, I guess that's not what they had in mind. I thought the film was a good propaganda video and did a good job about warning about he dangers of communism. I do find it hypocritical, but it was good at projecting its message.

It's still propaganda. Capitalism is an "ism" as well.

Also, important to remember that for all the luxury here, the resources from some other nation need to be taken, usually by force and coersion. This usually drives the oppressed in that country to any given "ism" and, provided the outcome continues "free trade" with the US, then that ism will be tolerated. If that ism is not tolerated, they become "Eurasia" and we sick McCarthy on them.

Another thing, the one cited example of the automobile industry. Just because the car was made to be so easy to purchase at one time and just because we ended up designing our cities around the automobile, does not mean that that was the best idea. It certainly made people rich, but look at all the negatives from car ownership and lack of decent public transportation. Remember, the poor and people who don't need to travel far should have access to public transportation if we're going to bother with the whole "city" thing. If you live in the country, what does it matter...where are you going anyway? But since upwards of three-quarters of us live in the cities and large towns in this country, it would behoove us to think about public transportation. The Automobile Industry cornered the market through hostile take-overs of inner-city trolley car lines. Bad move for corporate greed in the name of capitalism.

I just watched MSNBC tout Coca-Cola for one hour today (an hour long commercial if you ask me) and then follow it up with an hour long pat on the back for McDonalds. The most critical moment in the piece was how Coca-cola wasn't paying attention to their customer base when they switched formulas back in the early 80s.

REALLY? That's the best negative our Liberal Media can come up with to balance the hour-long advertising love fest? Nothing about their practices in India and Africa where bottling plants limit access to fresh water? Nothing about the suspicious murder of a Union organizer in Colombia?

I don't totally disagree with the message in the cartoon, but to act like somehow capitalism (as an ism) is somehow divorced from the other controlling "isms" is a bit one-sided and narrow. Capitalism is just as controlling in its own ways as Socialism. Communism? I don't think I could come up with one communist country if I had to glance at the map for a bit...Fascism? Seems like Fascism is about the only thing that Socialism and Capitalism have in common. And, insofar as the cartoon touched on that very idea (about being wary of people trying to divide you due to religious or class reasons), it got it half right. You can't tell me that Capitalism doesn't sing the tired old song of "the lazy, ignorant masses will just be on welfare. They won't do anything if you didn't give them a job."

I'm pretty sure they'd be hunter-gathers or subsistance farmers, for the most part, until all this "ism" stuff got dragged in by a minority of thinkers - who, incidentally, are the lazy ones who need someone else to do their work for them!

This just goes to show that we have been warned. We have been warned for that past 50 years and we still let this happen. How did we just let this happen? We have know for years and years it was coming but we just stood by and watched it happen and did little or nothing to stop it. This bull of "It is not my problem" and "It will never happen" and "That can never happen" crap has cough up with us. I have been telling people for years this was coming and I always got the standard reply like those. Now it maybe too late to do anything about it and it unfolds right before our eyes and I still get the same replies and now they see it happening too and still stand by their standard reply they gave me so long ago. Are the people going to wake up and see what is happing or are they going to die in their sleep. I just can not believe that people still do not see what is happening right in front of them. Are they that blind and stupid?

reply to post by The Transhumanist

You think the NWO is a bunch of socialists? The closest thing there is to an NWO is a cartel of international bankers and ceos. They are the most successful CAPITALISTS in the world. The very last thing they want is for the state to take away all their power and money. The NWO are the kind of people that would push propaganda like this.

A wildly successful government supported thief is not CAPITALIST.

There is so much incorrect information floating around it is mind boggling. The biggest bit of dis-information is the actual definition of capitalism.

First the system we live under is Neo-corporatism Neo-Corporatism not capitalism. Neo-corporatism actually kills true capitialism.

Today, corporatism or neo-corporatism is used in reference to tendencies in politics for legislators and administrations to be influenced or dominated by the interests of business enterprises (limited liability corporations). The influence by other types of corporations, such as those representing organized labor, is relatively minor. In this view, government decisions are seen as being influenced strongly by which sorts of policies will lead to greater profits for favored companies. In this sense of the word, corporatism is also termed corporatocracy.

So what is capitalism then? "Capitalism is a social system based on the recognition of individual rights, including property rights, in which all property is privately owned. Under capitalism the state is separated from economics (production and trade), just like the state is separated from religion."

SO capitalism is NOT the collusion of the government and large corporations intent on destroying individual rights especially property rights as a means of destroying competition. Government is SUPPOSE to secure your rights against these thieves.

What does capitalism do?
Some think of capitalism as this:

Capitalists regard the individual member of society as the central figure in wealth creation. They believe that a nation’s wealth could grow through the productive efforts of each individual. They view individuals as naturally competitive... Capitalism supports a competitive business environment where the forces of supply and demand determine the price of goods and services. www.differencebetween.net...

And that is the real propaganda.
Competition has NOTHING to do with capitalism. Capitalism is taking wealth (not fiat money) and using it to create more wealth. Wealth is the product of man's mind. It is a combination of inspiration, raw materials and labor that produces an "EXCESS" of usable product that other people want. In the movie that wealth was converted to a more usable form, gold backed currency. This WEALTH was then used to produce more wealth.

The other I gottcha in our current system is WHOSE wealth is actually used to create the wealth accumulated by the corporations and bankers. Most people think it is the banks in the form of loans. This is the second big LIE.

THIS is the system used to rob us and it has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism.

Because fiat money is not capital, that is WEALTH, Mises concluded that an increase of the money supply confers no identifiable social value. The increase in the money supply is because the bankers create new fiat money with every loan they make.

When new money is created it does not appear magically in equal percentages in all people's bank accounts or under their mattresses. Therefore money spreads unevenly, and this process has varying effects on individuals, depending on whether they receive early or late access to the new money

It is these losses of the groups that are the last to be reached by the variation in the value of money which ultimately constitute the source of the profits made by the bankers and the groups most closely connected with them.
www.lewrockwell.com...

Did you get that? This is the key point.

When money is devalued the first pigs to the trough steal the wealth of the late comers. Newly printed fiat money does not create new wealth it just transfers it from the poor, who are always the last to the trough, to the rich.

reply to post by mc_squared

Ding! And there we are - the WHOLE PROBLEM with the system in the first couple of sentences of your post.

From the beginning you are at the mercy of the person you're borrowing from - and unlike this cute little cartoon - in real life that person usually isn't Grampa Joe: it's Bank of America, or Mastercard or any of the other major soulsucking corporate empires who make absolutely criminal and disproportionate amounts of profit based on the debt generated by YOUR pursuit of the American Dream.

They realized they could make obscene amounts of money off this system a long time ago - and ever since the only real work any of them have had to do is to make sure no one ever questions it....

And that is the key piece of disinformation!

The system you just described is NOT CAPITALISM. It is not using wealth to create more wealth.

The Bankers short circuited the whole system of capitalism in 1913 by legalizing Fractional Reserve Banking. They diverted into their pockets the wealth that should have gone into the pockets of the people whose wealth is ACTUALLY BORROWED!

This is done because GOVERNMENT allows banks to lend counterfeit wealth at a lower interest rate. People trying to invest real wealth can not possibly compete. It is made even worse when people borrow counterfeit wealth and use it in Leveraged buyouts

What do I mean by "They diverted in to their pockets the wealth that should have gone into the pockets of the people whose wealth is ACTUALLY BORROWED?"

I showed how in the bottom of my last post but I will go over it again because it is critical to understanding the bankers big scam:

Because money is not capital, that is WEALTH, Mises concluded that an increase of the money supply confers no identifiable social value.

When new money is created it does not appear magically in equal percentages in all people's bank accounts or under their mattresses. Therefore money spreads unevenly, and this process has varying effects on individuals, depending on whether they receive early or late access to the new money

It is these losses of the groups that are the last to be reached by the variation in the value of money which ultimately constitute the source of the profits made by the bankers and the groups most closely connected with them.
www.lewrockwell.com...

Did you get that? This is the key point.

The banks make a 100% profit less operating costs thanks to fractional reserve banking. But the government and corporations they lend to also profit. This is because they borrow money with value X before the value drops. The creation of all the extra money changes the "value" of the money vs the "products" for sale. Since there is suddenly a lot more money but the amount of goods and services did not change, the exchange rate of money for product changes and the "price" goes up. We call it inflation, economists call it "Devaluation of the Currency"

Since the poor and middle class are not borrowing this new money when it is first created, they are transferring their wealth (labor) to the bankers and corporations by paying higher prices on the same wages.

reply to post by The Transhumanist

....So your solution is essentially reducing regulation thus granting more power to the wall street criminals that got us in this mess to begin with? ....

MORE Banker/Corporate propaganda

What do the regulations do? The actual provable effect is the regulations "raise the bar" preventing the ordinary citizen from becoming a small businessmen.

Thanks to the Corporate/Government Revolving Door, the corporations are given a free pass, their sins swept under the rug, while small and mid size corporations are bankrupted.

Here is just one example of how the government regulation system really works.

...The USDA's aggressive "do not look, do not tell" non-interference policy with ConAgra backfired when it was finally required to recall over 19 million pounds of ground beef and related trim during the summer of 2002. The reason: Laboratory tests confirmed E.coli 0157:H7 -- the same deadly germ that had taken lives and hospitalized many in previous contamination tragedies.

When John Munsell found that the hamburger he ground from ConAgra-provided meat contained the pathogen E.coli, he informed the USDA. Whereupon the Department launched an inspection of his operation, but not the source of the contamination -- ConAgra, and closed Munsell's plant for four months.

USDA's delay in going after ConAgra's Greeley plant resulted in the death of an Ohio woman and sickness for 35 other consumers before ConAgra recalled 19 million pounds of beef. Nader.org

Big John ended up losing the business that had been in his family for three generations.

Efforts of Food inspectors to bring problems with HACCP ignored by USDA

Apr 17, 2008 Testimony :Mr. Stan Painter, Chairman, National Joint Council of Food Inspection Locals: December 2004 Union president Stan Painter receive reports from union member that SRM regulations are not uniformly enforced. Painter writes to the Assistant FSIS Administrator for Field Operation about enforcement problem. USDA responses by placed Painter on disciplinary investigation status and contacts the USDA Office of Inspector General about filing criminal charges.

December 2004 Freedom of Information Act requests
August 2005 Over 1000 non-compliance reports – weighing some 16 pounds -- were turned over

It (the recall of Hallmark/Westland Meat) highlights one of the problems that we have attempted to raise with the agency ever since 1996 when the Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) inspection system was put in place. There seems to be too much reliance on an honor system for the industry to police itself. While the USDA investigation is still on going at Hallmark/Westland, a couple of facts have emerged that point to a system that can be gamed by those who want to break the law. It (HACCP) shifted the responsibility for food safety over to the companies .
domesticpolicy.oversight.house.gov...

This is a transcript of the USDA patting Stan Painter and John Munsell on the head before blowing them off: www.fsis.usda.gov...

This is the Senate hearing where Stan Painter is ripped to shreds

...Question. Is USDA’s investigation of union president Stan Painter retaliatory?

Answer. USDA’s investigation into the validity of allegations that Specified Risk Material (SRM) regulations are not being effectively carried out or properly enforced was conducted solely to ensure the safety of our Nation’s food supply.

Question. Stan Painter, the president of the food inspectors union, set forth a series of concerns about SRM removal in a letter to the agency in early December. I understand that FSIS has responded to the letter by launching a personal investigation of Mr. Painter. In January, for example, FSIS flew Mr. Painter to Washington DC and questioned him for 3 hours, to try to get him to divulge the sources of his information. However, FSIS has a database of non-compliance reports, which
should document instances in which inspectors have reported non-compliance with
SRM removal. Why has FSIS chosen to investigate Mr. Painter personally instead of addressing
the questions and concerns raised by his letter?

Answer. In a December 8, 2004, letter, the chairman of the National Joint Council
of Food Inspection Locals made unsubstantiated and non-specific allegations that FSIS is not properly enforcing regulations requiring the removal of Specified Risk Materials (SRMs) from beef products. Because of the serious nature of the allegations contained in Mr. Painter’s Letter, FSIS immediately initiated an inquiry into those allegations which included an informal interview of the union chairman. During that interview, Mr. Painter refused to provide specific information to support the letter’s allegations. That inquiry subsequently resulted in a formal investigation by FSIS to determine the validity of the allegations. As part of that investigation, Mr. Painter was formally interviewed on two occasions in January. The FSIS investigation has been completed and the allegations concerning improper enforcement of SRM regulations were not substantiated..... www.access.gpo.gov...

Texas Animal Health Commission
USDA is moving toward supporting fewer labs nationwide, with the remaining labs serving as regional labs and supporting larger geographic areas....
The first-point testing program is the “early warning system” for the brucellosis program, enabling detection of infection prior to sale of cattle within the state. With the discontinuation of first-point testing, slaughter testing will become the primary method for brucellosis surveillance.... www.tahc.state.tx.us...

The actual result of regulation

The short story on meat packing consolidation in America

..In 1890 the Select Committee of the Senate... found price fixing in beef, in contract monopoly and in transportation of food products...

In 1972, the top four firms, American Beef Processors, Armour, IBP and Swift, held 26 percent of the beef market....

A 1996 study by the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration (GIPSA) ... concluded that a staggering 82 percent of the beef slaughter market was in the hands of four major meat packers.

A 1996 study by the Grain Inspection, Packers and Stockyards Administration (GIPSA) which was created by the 1921 Act to monitor the packers for antitrust violations, concluded that a staggering 82 percent of the beef slaughter market was in the hands of four major meat packers...

When a few agricultural economists warned of the dangers the giant packers posed in the late 1980’s, Congress was silent....

The Utah Commissioner of Agriculture, Cary G. Peterson, released figures on the collapse of rancher profits from 1991 to 1996. They fell from roughly $8 billion a year to $1.5 billion. During the same period, profits of the packers skyrocketed....

USDA: Consolidation in U.S. Meatpacking
James M. MacDonald, Michael E. Ollinger,Kenneth E. Nelson, and Charles R. Handy

Agricultural Economics Report No. (AER785) 52 pp, March 1999

Meatpacking consolidated rapidly in the last two decades: slaughter plants became much larger, and concentration increased as smaller firms left the industry. We use establishment-based data from the U.S. Census Bureau to describe consolidation and to identify the roles of scale economies and technological change in driving consolidation....

Notice no minorities in this cartoon (except for a couple here and there).

The downfall of this country was slavery for many reasons.

How many minorities in China or Japan?

reply to post by gazerstar


"I bet Glenn Beck, Shawn Hannity, and maybe even O'Reilly would. That would be one more reason for the current administration to villify them along with Fox News."

Are you kidding?! In a way, the cartoon is just as subversive re *them* (the church bit), so they'd *never*
show it (or at least, I very much doubt it - them being the "God & Kountry Krowd" [misspellings deliberate]).
I don't believe they'd ever show it - for that very reason. I believe virulent racism and religious bigotry runs as
deep in them as it does in the people who belong to the KKK, Aryan Nations and all those other hate
groups.

Society has been influenced by those in power for so long now and it is those in power that wish to distract us and mislead us from the truth to keep us in a never ending circle of slavery and ignorance so as to keep them in power.
well thats how i think of it anyway.

I love watch cartoon too,I most like Toy Story 3 in 2010.In the cartoon world I'll forget the true life and society,and only left to enjoy the good and sweet life.I like most of good japnese cartoon too.

I like the Cartoon and it seemed really familiar to me.....perhaps I saw it as a child. I always did like old cartoons. We really do waste the minds of children and ourselves when we don't utilize the TV, movies etc for more educational purposes. I don't mean Documentaries although I do love Documentaries. You can make an exciting action packed film and still utilize the opportunity to inform or educate people. Perhaps in the future it can be more like this. Great Cartoon and thanks for sharing.

The good old days of cartoon, albeit good or bad. My father refers to it as " right after dinosuars and before square wheels".

reply to post by patmac


thanks for this post. I agree, new cartoons are utter crap. It's unbelievable how much actual content has been lost in new cartoons. They have nothing but fancy special effects, violence, soap operas for kids as well.

I remember even in the 90's we had some awesome cartoons, with great morals behind them.

This is an anti Communist Propaganda video. Its propaganda, yet people on here want their kids to be forced to watch this. Maybe they should be forced to watch this too.

amazing, going to post on my fb

reply to post by Unnoan


To destroy the base of unions and prevent labour from being a political force, of course! It is easier to send capital overseas, where there are no unions, than it is to fight the unions.