To the maker of this thread

1. Do you realize on the label of the swine flu vaccine .. it states This vaccine is not guaranteed to be safe

2. The vaccine makers are immune to any law suits ( meaning if you are harmed by it .. TOO BAD .. you cannot sue )



[edit on 23-10-2009 by 2kni3]

Originally posted by 2kni3
To the maker of this thread

1. Do you realize on the label of the swine flu vaccine .. it states This vaccine is not guaranteed to be safe

2. The vaccine makers are immune to any law suits ( meaning if you are harmed by it .. TOO BAD .. you cannot sue )



[edit on 23-10-2009 by 2kni3]

Dude, no joke, it literally says that on the vial of 95% of vaccines.


Tex AM, thanks for spreading some truth around these boards, it was beginning to seem like I am the only person with a head still on their shoulders around here. I love all the talk about following the heard to get the vaccine, when really, everyone here is following the heard to not get the vaccine.

And in a more general comment: How is everyone's MMR vaccination doing? (measles mumps rubella) How'd the forced smallpox vaccination work out? What about the polio vaccination huh?

EXACTLY.

You all have been vaccinated 5-6 times in your life already, with no ill effects. The vaccine was made in no different a way, and will have no different of effects.

I currently am vaccinated with two IND's (investigational new drugs) and barely had anything more than a very small bump from either, and one of them has pretty much already saved my life.

But just as A&M said, its your decision, but don't come back to the table of science crying because your hungry but don't like the taste of what we cooked for dinner. (which historically has happened 100% of the time)

EDIT TO SAY ONE MORE THING: I guarentee you no vaccine produced these days has thimerosol in it pal, I believe it's not approved for human use by the FDA.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by retroviralsounds]

You should know by now that they will say anything to make you take the vaccine, once you take it you can't do anything about it.

Originally posted by retroviralsounds

Originally posted by 2kni3
To the maker of this thread

1. Do you realize on the label of the swine flu vaccine .. it states This vaccine is not guaranteed to be safe

2. The vaccine makers are immune to any law suits ( meaning if you are harmed by it .. TOO BAD .. you cannot sue )



[edit on 23-10-2009 by 2kni3]

Dude, no joke, it literally says that on the vial of 95% of vaccines.


Tex AM, thanks for spreading some truth around these boards, it was beginning to seem like I am the only person with a head still on their shoulders around here. I love all the talk about following the heard to get the vaccine, when really, everyone here is following the heard to not get the vaccine.

And in a more general comment: How is everyone's MMR vaccination doing? (measles mumps rubella) How'd the forced smallpox vaccination work out? What about the polio vaccination huh?

EXACTLY.

You all have been vaccinated 5-6 times in your life already, with no ill effects. The vaccine was made in no different a way, and will have no different of effects.

I currently am vaccinated with two IND's (investigational new drugs) and barely had anything more than a very small bump from either, and one of them has pretty much already saved my life.

But just as A&M said, its your decision, but don't come back to the table of science crying because your hungry but don't like the taste of what we cooked for dinner. (which historically has happened 100% of the time)

EDIT TO SAY ONE MORE THING: I guarentee you no vaccine produced these days has thimerosol in it pal, I believe it's not approved for human use by the FDA.

[edit on 25-10-2009 by retroviralsounds]

It's safe you say ?

IS THAT WHY they are IMMUNE to any Lawsuits as a result of HARM the VACCINE DOES ?

how many of these people havn't had an already compromised immune system. and with the with most parents, they don't really feed their kids the proper nutrition to begin with. hot dogs. mac and cheese, and Mcdonalds are a Zero on the nutrition meter. I say the average person doesn't eat like they should to keep up a proper defense against even the common cold.I'd also bet that most people daily drink at least two caffeine and high fructose corn syrup filled drinks. ( consuming more than 60 mg"s a day breaks down the immune system). one mountain dew contains 7 teaspoons of sugar. Things like this people overlook everyday. All it takes is a few people to fall victim to not eating healthy to keep the cycle of sickness to continue. Also most people on the go live on the trust that Coke and Pepsi will only give them clean water. Really? or for that thought do some research into just how clean your city water really is. So it come to no shock to me that so many wouldn't be able to fight off this virus on their own and be forced to accept a government solution.

OP must be a government plant...I have studied the history of the gov't/FDA/WHO & vaccines...Not one good outcome!!!! NOT ONE!

So what you are saying is that we should trust a drug company that has knowingly released HIV infected Factor 8 for over a year to hemophiliacs in third world countries back in the 80's, who is also guilty this year in February of releasing live H5N1 avian bird flu in their seasonal flu shots to over 16 laboratories and 4 countries. Not to mention they patented the vaccine for H1N1 last year before this was even a known virus. Remember this "new" strain is a totally new virus, never seen before.

Which has trans genetic signatures which indicate it was laboratory grown, man made and obviously a bioweapon.

I can see Discovery is up on these facts for the general public. But hey, if you are willing to put your life in Baxter's hands and think that they are trustworthy with this hideous track record, by all means roll up your sleeve.

I'll stick with the facts which clearly indicate a massive crime against humanity by Big Pharma and government.

The real question is, why create a pandemic in the first place? What is the political motivation here. The rest is all clearly propaganda such as your ill informed discovery channel link.

TO say that vaccinations did not end the smallpox or polio threats is absolutely ludacris.

Vaccines work, period, and they worked on millions of animals in animal testing before they worked on you.

There is no H1N1 (swine flu). It is a government hoax like the regular flu. The vaccine is poison. While this is my opinion I can back it up from past examples. Sometime in the 1960's about 500 black men were given what they "thought" were vaccinations. Actually they were injected with Syphilis disease. The government wanted to see how it would spread among the population and so they allowed these black men to suffer and die of the disease. Then, a few years back a large amount of flu vaccine was contaminated with bacteria and had to be destroyed. That year was one of the lowest flu seasons ever. And those that got sick got a mild almost cold like flu.

This so called H1N1 is for fear tactic purposes only. And it will allow the so called president to exercise special powers under the veil of a national emergency. They say this declaration is akin to preceding a hurricane. Ahh... let me see, didn't they send the troops in after Katrina..?

I tried starting a new thread on the Swine Flu subject, but my account is too new and not enough posts generated to start a thread in other forums than Introduction. I guess it wouldn't hurt just to put this in any Swine Flu thread until I can start my own threads, so here goes..

Ok, here goes my story. Last night, on October 26th, 2009 my little brother (11) was confirmed with Swine Flu at the Whittier Hospital (SoCal). I believe the virus confirmed was called H1N1 Influenza A. Earlier Friday night, he started out with a cough and a sore throat which eventually lead to a high non-stop fever at night. I mean the fever went as high as 104 according to my mom. I believe we tried to give him two different kinds of fever reducer, Motrin and Tylenol but none of them works.

So, Sunday afternoon, we finally decided that his fever was getting out of hand so we took him to a near by emergency hospital. Well, this is where my story gets real interesting and humorous. After waiting for like 3 to 4 hours at the emergency hospital, (yeah you heard me right, about 4 hours of wait before you can even see a nurse or doctor) they took some bacteria samples from his nose and did a lab test. Another 2 hours or so gone by, came back with the confirmation of H1N1. What the nurses/doctors there did was mixing double dose of two different fever reducers to get his fever to drop. They also warned my mom at the hospital to never do this at home, mixing medications.

After another hour or so, they sent him home along with the miracle drug "TamiFlu" and some other crap. What I cannot figure out is, why on earth these folks at the hospital does not treat this seriously. Like, no instructions were given to us about quarantine, they only gave us breathe masks. They basically told my parents that this is very common now, like 9 out of 10 patient they get right now that have flu like symptoms are basically H1N1. The part that makes me pissed off and confused is their attitude or lack there of when dealing with a epidemic such as this. Basically, we were told to go home, wear masks, and hope for the best. Any individual that has contact with the patient during high fever is potentially infected (this means our whole family by the way).

So they had to write a note for my brother so he can skip school. On the doctors note, there was absolutely no mention of H1N1, I guess they're respecting our privacy? In any case, the MD's basically act like this isn't a big deal, everyone's getting it, so why are you freaked out? They're basically saying, "Well, it's not like you're gonna die from this, so why worry?" No quarantine measures needs to be taken because heck, everyone's getting it. This is where my mind blew up, because I just couldn't accept the fact that no one in this hospital seem to take this seriously, they're treating it just like another seasonal flu.

Here's my question, why is H1N1 being feared by so many people? Why is the media and government agencies generating so much fear in people by going with a Level 6 pandemic warning? Why force folks to get vaccines? Why are the vaccines even developed? I just can't get this around my head, maybe I'm just plain paranoid. From what the doctors at the hospital is saying, you can basically recover from this Flu within 5 days and the funny thing is TamiFlu isn't absolutely necessary. So.. why the panic? Why the hysteria? Why is media going frenzy with this if it's just another regular flu? Most important question of all, why is the vaccine or TamiFlu even needed if my body can recover from this crap by itself?

What does this tell me? If I get H1N1 from my little brother, I'm not getting the vaccine nor am I going to use TamiFlu. Basically, I made this decision based on the Doctors reaction at the hospital, which tells me, this isn't a serious thing. Either I'm crazy, or the Doctors just plain don't give a crap.

It's feared because its an RNA virus, which mutate randomly and out of control. Its composed of a single strand of RNA (no DNA at all), so every time it infects someone, every time it encounters a new environment, it mutates.

Over time these mutations mount up and can make the virus far more pathogenic. In fact, it really only takes ONE mutation for it to become a killer, which means we may all wake up tomorrow and have a major killer virus on our hands with death rates upwards of 10-15% which is totally unacceptable.

Also, we are worried because the vast majority of the world has never seen this virus, thus, none of us have any immunities built up to it. This is why you see the large scale infection numbers from teh WHO and CDC. The virus is a kid in a candy store right now. It is NOT seasonal flu. Let me repeat this, IT IS NOT COMPARABLE TO SEASONAL FLU. We are already nearing seasonal flu infection numbers, and the typical flu season has just started. Come Dec, Jan and Feb, we will have doubled or possibly even tripled traditional infection rates for seasonal flu. Anytime you infect more people with a virus, more people are going to die, thats just simple mathematics. So the gov't is trying to save as many lives as it can and more importantly, keep the country functioning as much as possible as we are already vulnerable and can ill afford a major pandemic.

[edit on 29-10-2009 by retroviralsounds]