Welp, you get a S n F from me for the simple fact that this happened to me just a week or so ago (and also a month or so ago) and I really wanted to
create a thread about it, asking some of the same questions of this video. Such as why is it always a dark figure/presence that is hallucinated?
I'll tell ya, this was the creepiest thing that ever happened to me. It started off as I was going to sleep. I know I was asleep, but I still felt
like I was just lying there thinking. Then, it sounded like I was sitting outside, listening to the wind blow. I could hear the wind blowing.....
But then, this crazy, loud buzzing noise came over me and I woke up breathing heavy and sweating. I was looking at the ceiling, from what seemed like
a foot away. But I couldn't move at all for over a min.
Being a frequent guest on ATS, I remember thinking "OMG I'm being abducted!...!) I honestly believed that was what was happening, between the laser
beam type noise in my ear, hearing the wind blow outside before I woke up, and being paralyzed..... Really, really scary stuff.
It was pitch dark, so I didn't see any visions, but it honestly just felt like something else was there. And I'm not just saying that to agree with
the post, it really did.
So, if all the reports seem to be so similar, and it's always a presence or what not, why is it so easily dismissed as just a hallucination? I know
one thing.... the overwhelming fear I felt wasn't a hallucination.
It's weird because the second time it happened, I could feel it coming. The noise starts out slow, and I'm "awake" but asleep. If you can catch it
before you completely wake up, you can stop it also. But you have to switch positions or it will most likely just happen again anyways (at least
that's my experience).
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Topic started on 23-10-2009 @ 01:04 AM by Amenti
Their website stopsleepparalysis.org...
Stories from people that have stopped it stopsleepparalysis.org...
top 10 REAL causes of Sleep Paralysis stopsleepparalysis.org...
The Truth about Sleep Paralysis
Modern Western medical thought says that sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from the REM state, but the body is in a state of paralysis, which they say prevents the body from manifesting movements made in the subjects dreams and causes hallucinations, mostly of "evil presences in the room". Yet they freely admit that very little is known about the physiology of sleep paralysis and that this is at best, a guess. There are several problems with this theory. One is that it is generally accompanied by the sense that there is something evil in the room and if it were only the result of people dreaming, even though their body is still asleep, why isnt there more people reporting all kinds very different dreams as you would expect, as opposed to almost identical experiences with this evil. The same story, the same feeling, and sometimes the same entity are being described by people who have had no contact with one another, or have ever heard of SP before. I think it is helpful at this point to hear what other cultures have believed about SP for hundreds of years.
In Persian culture a ghost-like creature
Malay Peninsula they are reported as demonic figures.
In Tamil and Sri Lankan a "ghost that forces one down".
In the Muslim culture jinns or demons
In Ethiopian culture some form of evil spirit.
Zimbabwean Shona culture some spirit—especially an evil one
In Greece and Cyprus, a ghost-like creature or Demon
Yoruba of Southwest Nigeria demon
In Malta, folk culture attributes a sleep paralysis to ghosts
In Iceland folk culture A goblin or a succubus
In Chinese culture, "ghost pressing on body"
Vietnamese culture, "held down by a ghost
n Hmong culture, or "crushing demon
In Cambodian, Laotian, and Thai culture ghosts.
It may be tempting to dismiss these cultures views about SP because we think our culture (US) has grown out of a belief of demons, but if you have been experiencing SP in your life you know that the demon explanation shouldn’t be thrown out quite so fast regardless of what you think you know about how the world works.
Im going to shoot straight with you, I know what SP is, I know how to stop it, and I have seen tons of people beat it for good. So bear with me as I explain all this, because Im sure many of you will not like the truth about this, but this will be all the information that you need to know to terminate SP for good in your life.
You may have guessed by now SP is cause by demonic presence in the room.
There is some good news and bad news about this. The bad news is that demons are smart and deceptive and very evil, the good news is that there is a way turn the tables on them and make them the victims of your next encounter as well as end it for good.
If you have been researching possible causes of SP from a western medical perspective you have found that everyone seems to be guessing, and that no two answers are alike, I will tell you from my experience what the real causes of SP are.
There are a few common causes.
1.) The most common that I have dealt with is people that have in some way been involved with various levels, even very light level occult practices. Such as Ouiji boards, tarot cards, certain types of meditation, channeling, even obsessive research about the occult of ufos can be the cause for some people. generally The deeper the person goes into the occult the more "doors" they open, and the more authority the demons gain over them, which can lead to severe physical attacks and even abductions. It is important to realize that the demons gain more authority over you the deeper you go, that is they have an interest in a person becoming more active in the occult.
2.) Another cause is some form of a generational "door" has been opened for the person, usually by a parent or grandparent. Most often when a grandfather had been involved in high level Masonic rituals. This can also happen if the parents or grandparents were involved with the occult on some level. This is usually the issue with people who have had SP since they were very young.
3.) Another more rare possibility is that there is a highly demonized object in the room. I know it sounds weird but objects can be given demonic "attachment" in certain rituals. This can be crystals, books, or statues. Really just about anything can be demonized, even if the person attaching the demonic presence thinks they are only attaching "energy" or something else. As I said it is more rare, but still is possible.
4.) There are a few more very rare possibilities but I am already sounding crazy enough as it is and Im running out of time so. If you don’t fall into any of these categories email help@stopsleepparalysis and we will try to help you.
SP is often tied to astral projection or leaving your body because they are done the same way, that is through the help of demonic presence. This even though the people doing it are usually deceived into thinking they are doing it on their own by their own power, but this is why it is easy to leave your body during these episodes. Because the source of the ability is in the room with you. You will find many people telling you to embrace this ability when you have SP episodes, but please don’t listen to them it is extremely unwise and will cause more and more severe SP episodes down the line.
The short answer to how these experiences are stopped is through the authority of the real Jesus Christ. The doubts you may have about this will vanish as soon as you see the reaction of the demons to this authority. The mechanics of this start with Jesus himself in
(Luke 9:1) it says "Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons.
And in
(1 John 3:8) it says "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
And again in
Luke 10: 19-20
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus says he has given this authority to us, that is to Christians, but calling out for Jesus’ he
Their website stopsleepparalysis.org...
Stories from people that have stopped it stopsleepparalysis.org...
top 10 REAL causes of Sleep Paralysis stopsleepparalysis.org...
The Truth about Sleep Paralysis
Modern Western medical thought says that sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from the REM state, but the body is in a state of paralysis, which they say prevents the body from manifesting movements made in the subjects dreams and causes hallucinations, mostly of "evil presences in the room". Yet they freely admit that very little is known about the physiology of sleep paralysis and that this is at best, a guess. There are several problems with this theory. One is that it is generally accompanied by the sense that there is something evil in the room and if it were only the result of people dreaming, even though their body is still asleep, why isnt there more people reporting all kinds very different dreams as you would expect, as opposed to almost identical experiences with this evil. The same story, the same feeling, and sometimes the same entity are being described by people who have had no contact with one another, or have ever heard of SP before. I think it is helpful at this point to hear what other cultures have believed about SP for hundreds of years.
In Persian culture a ghost-like creature
Malay Peninsula they are reported as demonic figures.
In Tamil and Sri Lankan a "ghost that forces one down".
In the Muslim culture jinns or demons
In Ethiopian culture some form of evil spirit.
Zimbabwean Shona culture some spirit—especially an evil one
In Greece and Cyprus, a ghost-like creature or Demon
Yoruba of Southwest Nigeria demon
In Malta, folk culture attributes a sleep paralysis to ghosts
In Iceland folk culture A goblin or a succubus
In Chinese culture, "ghost pressing on body"
Vietnamese culture, "held down by a ghost
n Hmong culture, or "crushing demon
In Cambodian, Laotian, and Thai culture ghosts.
It may be tempting to dismiss these cultures views about SP because we think our culture (US) has grown out of a belief of demons, but if you have been experiencing SP in your life you know that the demon explanation shouldn’t be thrown out quite so fast regardless of what you think you know about how the world works.
Im going to shoot straight with you, I know what SP is, I know how to stop it, and I have seen tons of people beat it for good. So bear with me as I explain all this, because Im sure many of you will not like the truth about this, but this will be all the information that you need to know to terminate SP for good in your life.
You may have guessed by now SP is cause by demonic presence in the room.
There is some good news and bad news about this. The bad news is that demons are smart and deceptive and very evil, the good news is that there is a way turn the tables on them and make them the victims of your next encounter as well as end it for good.
If you have been researching possible causes of SP from a western medical perspective you have found that everyone seems to be guessing, and that no two answers are alike, I will tell you from my experience what the real causes of SP are.
There are a few common causes.
1.) The most common that I have dealt with is people that have in some way been involved with various levels, even very light level occult practices. Such as Ouiji boards, tarot cards, certain types of meditation, channeling, even obsessive research about the occult of ufos can be the cause for some people. generally The deeper the person goes into the occult the more "doors" they open, and the more authority the demons gain over them, which can lead to severe physical attacks and even abductions. It is important to realize that the demons gain more authority over you the deeper you go, that is they have an interest in a person becoming more active in the occult.
2.) Another cause is some form of a generational "door" has been opened for the person, usually by a parent or grandparent. Most often when a grandfather had been involved in high level Masonic rituals. This can also happen if the parents or grandparents were involved with the occult on some level. This is usually the issue with people who have had SP since they were very young.
3.) Another more rare possibility is that there is a highly demonized object in the room. I know it sounds weird but objects can be given demonic "attachment" in certain rituals. This can be crystals, books, or statues. Really just about anything can be demonized, even if the person attaching the demonic presence thinks they are only attaching "energy" or something else. As I said it is more rare, but still is possible.
4.) There are a few more very rare possibilities but I am already sounding crazy enough as it is and Im running out of time so. If you don’t fall into any of these categories email help@stopsleepparalysis and we will try to help you.
SP is often tied to astral projection or leaving your body because they are done the same way, that is through the help of demonic presence. This even though the people doing it are usually deceived into thinking they are doing it on their own by their own power, but this is why it is easy to leave your body during these episodes. Because the source of the ability is in the room with you. You will find many people telling you to embrace this ability when you have SP episodes, but please don’t listen to them it is extremely unwise and will cause more and more severe SP episodes down the line.
The short answer to how these experiences are stopped is through the authority of the real Jesus Christ. The doubts you may have about this will vanish as soon as you see the reaction of the demons to this authority. The mechanics of this start with Jesus himself in
(Luke 9:1) it says "Then He called His twelve disciples together and gave them power and authority over all demons.
And in
(1 John 3:8) it says "For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
And again in
Luke 10: 19-20
Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven.
Jesus says he has given this authority to us, that is to Christians, but calling out for Jesus’ he
reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 02:04 AM by Karrotz
reply to post by silver tongue devil
I don't agree with the video in the terms that it's caused by a lack of Jesus in our lives. I've never had Jesus in my life, and this has only happened twice in my life, and both times in the last couple months.
It is worth pondering the staggering similarities in reported or documented episodes. I would think if you were dreaming about winning the lottery, then if you woke up in paralysis and had hallucinations, then you would see a rain shower of Benjamins, and not some dark shadow standing over you, wouldn't you? Why always a presence in the room? (and why not a hot supermodel presence if I'm having that dream?? dangit....)
I can't wrap my tiny lil brain around that one.
BUT, despite all this, I'm not so quick to toss religion out there either. Is it possible to believe in spirit/energy existing after death without believing in Christ?
I think the ones studying this can really only guess, after studying brain waves, they just don't know. With such an array of possibilities, I won't knock anyone for what they believe on this one. We could all be wrong.
[edit on 23-10-2009 by Karrotz]
I don't agree with the video in the terms that it's caused by a lack of Jesus in our lives. I've never had Jesus in my life, and this has only happened twice in my life, and both times in the last couple months.
It is worth pondering the staggering similarities in reported or documented episodes. I would think if you were dreaming about winning the lottery, then if you woke up in paralysis and had hallucinations, then you would see a rain shower of Benjamins, and not some dark shadow standing over you, wouldn't you? Why always a presence in the room? (and why not a hot supermodel presence if I'm having that dream?? dangit....)
I can't wrap my tiny lil brain around that one.
BUT, despite all this, I'm not so quick to toss religion out there either. Is it possible to believe in spirit/energy existing after death without believing in Christ?
I think the ones studying this can really only guess, after studying brain waves, they just don't know. With such an array of possibilities, I won't knock anyone for what they believe on this one. We could all be wrong.
[edit on 23-10-2009 by Karrotz]
reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 02:10 AM by EnlightenUp
reply to post by Amenti
What a buck naked load of ignorant B.S.! Basically everything completely came to a stop for me after acquiring knowledge along those lines, including sleep paralysis, unless I do it deliberately. I don't think it's appropriate to spead lies. That pretty much makes you a helper of those demons. Wake up!
Yeah, plenty of doors are open. I'm opening more all the time. Only thing is is that I see less and less of things of the nature you describe unless I tune my mind to that in particular, in which case, yeah, I can bring it about. Or, I can banish it. See it gives you a choice in the matter instead of being a helpless tool.
The most common that I have dealt with is people that have in some way been involved with various levels, even very light level occult practices. Such as Ouiji boards, tarot cards, certain types of meditation, channeling, even obsessive research about the occult of ufos can be the cause for some people. generally The deeper the person goes into the occult the more "doors" they open, and the more authority the demons gain over them, which can lead to severe physical attacks and even abductions. It is important to realize that the demons gain more authority over you the deeper you go, that is they have an interest in a person becoming more active in the occult.
What a buck naked load of ignorant B.S.! Basically everything completely came to a stop for me after acquiring knowledge along those lines, including sleep paralysis, unless I do it deliberately. I don't think it's appropriate to spead lies. That pretty much makes you a helper of those demons. Wake up!
Yeah, plenty of doors are open. I'm opening more all the time. Only thing is is that I see less and less of things of the nature you describe unless I tune my mind to that in particular, in which case, yeah, I can bring it about. Or, I can banish it. See it gives you a choice in the matter instead of being a helpless tool.
reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 02:48 AM by jawsismyfish
reply to post by Amenti
It's really hard to believe there are people who buy into to this sort of thinking. Why don't you start burning people at the stake for being witches while you are at it?
I've dealt with SP for pretty much my entire life. I had my first episode when I was 14 and have had probably close to 40 since then. There was a period of time where I had one every night for a week.
While they were extremely scary experiences, they have nothing to do with Satan or demons. In fact, they eventually turned into extremely profound spiritual experiences - once I learned to master them. They are a doorway into a realm very few people get to experience.
It's really hard to believe there are people who buy into to this sort of thinking. Why don't you start burning people at the stake for being witches while you are at it?
I've dealt with SP for pretty much my entire life. I had my first episode when I was 14 and have had probably close to 40 since then. There was a period of time where I had one every night for a week.
While they were extremely scary experiences, they have nothing to do with Satan or demons. In fact, they eventually turned into extremely profound spiritual experiences - once I learned to master them. They are a doorway into a realm very few people get to experience.
reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 03:18 AM by halfmanhalfamazing
reply to post by EMPIRE
Oh really
in
www.scientificamerican.com...
they say
as for the other atricle
it never says according to studies done on 5 million people or 30% of the population.
Can they explain why sleep paralysis dissapeared when all of these people and myself started praying...NOPE!
Oh really
in
www.scientificamerican.com...
they say
Researchers are not sure why this normal paralysis happens during consciousness for victims of sleep paralysis,
as for the other atricle
according to Harvard psychologists Richard McNally and Susan Clancy
it never says according to studies done on 5 million people or 30% of the population.
Can they explain why sleep paralysis dissapeared when all of these people and myself started praying...NOPE!
reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 06:55 AM by DataWraith
reply to post by Karrotz
Karrotz to answer your query.
The first time it happened I went to bed as usual, being a married middle aged man that means when the wifes tired so am I
.
Anyway the first time, I was in bed and I was woken up, I couldn't move anything except my eyes and my head an inch or two. I was lying on my left side in the foetal position, my wife lying to my left.
I couldn't move nor speak or call out, I tried my hardest to call the wife but all that came out was a very strangled croak, I could barely hear it myself. the room being dark ( we sleep with the curtains opne, and the window is on the right side of the room about 6 foot away from the bed) I noticed a small hunchover figure about 3 feet tall which I called a 'gnome' for lack of a better term. It disppeared behind my back and thats thte last I saw of it, a 'few seconds' later I woke up in a panic and checked the room, there was nothing, The wife stirred and I asked her did anything happen? She said no. I couldn't get back to sleep that night no matter how hard I tried and it was about 3 in the morning when it happened as the lit alarm clock in on a cabinet at the foot of the bed.
Anyway a couple of years later it happened again, same bed, same room , same time, again I noticed the 'gnome' disappear behind my back but this time I also noticed there was another taller figure at the foot of the bed by the wall,this figure I saw was cloaked and hooded but I could feel it looking at me, there was also a very faint outline so I could tell the head from the shoulders and that it was about 5 foot tall and what I can only described as a malignant feeling , it was totally oppressive, there was no warmth, no compassion.
Anyway as the 'gnome' went behind my back I realised I was awake and conscious and I imagined a green force field or shield around both myself and my wife, and I managed to erect this shield and as I did the 'gnome' tried to batter its way it, there were 4 green / white flashes as it tried to force its way in.
I said in my mind as I couldn't speak " I do not welcome this, begone from my presence" and as soon as I had thought that both figures disappeared and I fell back into sleep , waking up soon after , again the clock read about 3.30 am GMT ( being in London) When I woke up at the correct time at 6am I wrote the details down in my diary so if you want I'm sure I could find the date as well.
Now about myself, I'm into UFO's and ghosts ( why I'm here on ATS I suppose ) but I don't particularly watch horror vids , they don't
interest me, I hardly watch TV or listen to the radio. I'm also into astral projection and have tried lucid dreaming in the past and have almost
AP'd twice, got to the point of almost leaving my body but my body shut me down before I could leave. I have never used a Oujji board, or drugs so
that cuts out those options of causing SP.
I don't know if they were aliens from outerspace or another dimension but the only feeling I could describe it as , so that we can understand it as as if we are looking at a hamster in a cage, the same way you'd look at them in a pet shop, or better yet a tarantula in a glass jar in a pet shop, you don't go " AAWW they're so cute" you look at it but don't 'feel' any warmth ( Unless you like spiders of course), you look at them with total disregard for their well being .
You'll probably say I'm nuts or that I was dreaming but I want a third epsiode to find out who they were and what they are.
[edit on 23/10/09 by DataWraith]
Karrotz to answer your query.
The first time it happened I went to bed as usual, being a married middle aged man that means when the wifes tired so am I
. Anyway the first time, I was in bed and I was woken up, I couldn't move anything except my eyes and my head an inch or two. I was lying on my left side in the foetal position, my wife lying to my left.
I couldn't move nor speak or call out, I tried my hardest to call the wife but all that came out was a very strangled croak, I could barely hear it myself. the room being dark ( we sleep with the curtains opne, and the window is on the right side of the room about 6 foot away from the bed) I noticed a small hunchover figure about 3 feet tall which I called a 'gnome' for lack of a better term. It disppeared behind my back and thats thte last I saw of it, a 'few seconds' later I woke up in a panic and checked the room, there was nothing, The wife stirred and I asked her did anything happen? She said no. I couldn't get back to sleep that night no matter how hard I tried and it was about 3 in the morning when it happened as the lit alarm clock in on a cabinet at the foot of the bed.
Anyway a couple of years later it happened again, same bed, same room , same time, again I noticed the 'gnome' disappear behind my back but this time I also noticed there was another taller figure at the foot of the bed by the wall,this figure I saw was cloaked and hooded but I could feel it looking at me, there was also a very faint outline so I could tell the head from the shoulders and that it was about 5 foot tall and what I can only described as a malignant feeling , it was totally oppressive, there was no warmth, no compassion.
Anyway as the 'gnome' went behind my back I realised I was awake and conscious and I imagined a green force field or shield around both myself and my wife, and I managed to erect this shield and as I did the 'gnome' tried to batter its way it, there were 4 green / white flashes as it tried to force its way in.
I said in my mind as I couldn't speak " I do not welcome this, begone from my presence" and as soon as I had thought that both figures disappeared and I fell back into sleep , waking up soon after , again the clock read about 3.30 am GMT ( being in London) When I woke up at the correct time at 6am I wrote the details down in my diary so if you want I'm sure I could find the date as well.
Now about myself, I'm into UFO's and ghosts ( why I'm here on ATS I suppose
) but I don't particularly watch horror vids , they don't
interest me, I hardly watch TV or listen to the radio. I'm also into astral projection and have tried lucid dreaming in the past and have almost
AP'd twice, got to the point of almost leaving my body but my body shut me down before I could leave. I have never used a Oujji board, or drugs so
that cuts out those options of causing SP. I don't know if they were aliens from outerspace or another dimension but the only feeling I could describe it as , so that we can understand it as as if we are looking at a hamster in a cage, the same way you'd look at them in a pet shop, or better yet a tarantula in a glass jar in a pet shop, you don't go " AAWW they're so cute" you look at it but don't 'feel' any warmth ( Unless you like spiders of course), you look at them with total disregard for their well being .
You'll probably say I'm nuts or that I was dreaming but I want a third epsiode to find out who they were and what they are.
[edit on 23/10/09 by DataWraith]
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