Originally posted by Unity_99
A few key words leaped out from quite a few interesting ones in the OP,
but freedom,

orability
or the ability to make choices
potentially even to create your own options,
(by recombining known options).

soul wiping machine (which reconpilot mentions alot and to be avoided at all cost),

I'm not really sure how that would work.
that could be the equivalent of a soul ejection mechanism.

but from a multiversal perspective,
where all unique information is retained,
"soul wiping" is only achievable in a very localized format,
such as "soul ejection" from a particular universe or set of universes,
though there are universes where the soul stayed there.
and infinite quality of like (same) souls that remained intact.

and planet hopping.

well this is usally done by portal.
Even earth homo-sapiens have this technology.
can look up "Andrew D. Basiago".

he mentions having participated in government portaling since the early 1970's.
and has been to mars.

he's not very famous yet, so will still even answer questions asked on facebook.

The words hop, hop,hoppity caught my 18 year old son's attention who has had his own experiences and missing time and saw a grey that looked alot like your avatar, said "that feels like a grey to me. they are like that."

Ya I've had my own experiences.
Consciously only mental.

But I still have a mark on my inner left elbow,
where it appears a blood sample was taken (while i was unconscious).
Though perhaps the needle was contaminated or something as it really itched for a week,
and got a mild infection,
though i eventually cured it with some diluted iodine.
it's still on my arm.

The "hop, hoppity hop" was more in refrence to multiversal hoping, outside the confines of a universe.
Usually done as a geometric solid of some sort. My particular recollection near this world is of a sphere, though I've also been through cubic realms.

basically there it feels like,,, perhaps a flood plain delta, with many streams, and basically there are little baskets or dark geometric solids you can hop into, and they are universes on the inside,
can find a host body,
and play that universe game.

I think you are completely out of your mind!!! I think I think too much, but some thinking that I do tells me I should think more. Please, oh please tell me how to also get completely out of my mind!!

I feel thrilled, my heart is pumping, each day gets more exciting then the other. Each day the synchronous randomness (magical experience) seems to be increasing exponentially. When would I even imagine that one would share such deep knowledge with the entire world? Seems like I just imagined it. Wow, I feel. That be the secret for be out of mind?

I act not if you dont consider observation as action. And that intrigues me. Who then is acting for me? Who makes it just perfect for me to watch? Will one day I meet whoever does all the acting? Or is that going to make me have to start acting? I dont like having responsabilities.

You sir, made me wanna talk. Doing too much magic I think you are. But thats good, because that way you do all the magic I would need to do. I wonder how many other magic doers are doing their thing these days...because my experience is ever so magical, but still I do no magic at all!

Explanations are appreciated, as much as flags and stars.

Originally posted by Geladinhu
I think you are completely out of your mind!!! I think I think too much, but some thinking that I do tells me I should think more. Please, oh please tell me how to also get completely out of my mind!!

I prefer to call it being "safe and happy".

casting your own experience, gives a certain stability, and predictable serendipity.

I feel thrilled, my heart is pumping, each day gets more exciting then the other.
Each day the synchronous randomness (magical experience) seems to be increasing exponentially.
When would I even imagine that one would share such deep knowledge with the entire world?

congratulations on manifesting this text into your experience

Seems like I just imagined it. Wow, I feel. That be the secret for be out of mind?

I'm not really sure what you mean by "out of mind".
do you mean out from mind?
or from chakras above the third yellow choosing mental chakra?

I act not if you dont consider observation as action. And that intrigues me.
Who then is acting for me?
Who makes it just perfect for me to watch?
Will one day I meet whoever does all the acting?
Or is that going to make me have to start acting?
I dont like having responsabilities.

so are you meaning to say that you are not experiencing a symbiosis of mind and body?
and that your body moves irrespective of you soul?
and so your soul is forced into a "watching state"?

I would suggest some present moment awareness meditation.
perhaps even some left right brain hemisphere balancing.
where you get to know your body better.
and how the two halves comes together to make you whole.

I wonder how many other magic doers are doing their thing these days...
because my experience is ever so magical, but still I do no magic at all!

anyone with volition does magick, whether or not they recognize it.
some people under certain self-mutilating belief systems think their "thoughts"
do not influence their physical experience.

this can be rather tragic sometimes, as they can get themselves into some grimy pits,
and then be in denial about how they thought themselves into it.

shrugging off the responsibility for steering your body through the multiverse,
can end up with beaching yourself on a rocky shore,
if you're lucky.

Each and every chapter from 9-15, but will at the beginning of that, and in 9 it says, planetary influences and brainwaves. Covers basic beliefs that be on that planet. Would love this more fleshed out,

Mother Gaya female a bit overweight, green blue, spherical earth ball shape for head.
Brother Luna male, big and strong, large and muscular, very white, a giant, kinda reminds me of a Yeti, that's about the size of godzilla. But he's a kind a gentle soul, likes to study pyrite, or other mineral formations on his surface.
He's aware of people populating his surface,
but they only mildly affect his concentration.
He likes to chat with Gaya, and they frequently hold dinner parties in aqueous places.

"would you like some tea, and biscuits?
we're on the north east shore of what they just recently called the "british empire"
oh I'm like the queen? Am I not? 'Mother Gaya' afterall. I shoul have some legal standing,
but they don't seem to want to include me in their political games,
oh how I yearn to be a part of their society,
to be recognized.
I love those earth people,
yay sometimes they put my face up,
but often devoid of expression or personality,
they certainly could make it more interesting"
sample convo. (mind experienced while writing)

If you really get into it, they can talk for days on end, and keep you in trances where you can hardly move, from overwhelming of mind boggling thoughts, and strange images if you aren't used to talking to planets.

Local beliefs:
eating and drinking is necessary - a side effect of over population, also increasing incentive for appreciating other beings (wearing their skins, crafting their bones, sharing their flesh). though as some might say, the initial intention some have lost sight of.

breatharians (and people that can't seem to lose weight) are a case in point showing that eating and drinking can be side stepped.

all the stars and planets have personalities of course.
the sun sometimes stops by, he feels quite masculine to me,
and wears his solar flares like the mane of a lion,
though he does seem quite thin, almost like a stick, yet taller than Luna (Toroth-avatar) or Gaya.

They change size and shape at will. Gaya has several fish forms, for instance.
These events with the planets interacting on such a perceptably "human" level occur perhaps at different frequencies from physical bodies,
but we can tune into them through our Ninth chakras.

Can consult with them if you'd like.

While many people are unconsciously aware of Gaya and the higher chakras,
their consciousness filters out these experiences,
though they still affect you and your life,
so it would be wise to listen
to the internal workings of your mind,
just to help you get to know,
where you are,
right now.

and how to still perhaps the negative thoughts of the matrix surrounding us, how to persist through this.

metta meditaiton.
"peace love happy,
joy joy joy"
if you do this often enough,
your brain can get "the hang of it",
and really just wont be room for non happy thoughts,
if you just persist in creating the stable structure in your mind.
through meditation or mind-excersize.

works for me.

Is this the matrix?

if you're refering to the multiverse.
yes this is a part of the multiverse.

much stranger than the fiction sci-fi epic Matrix movie.
As there are infinite layers and points where we can "wake up" and pretend like now is somewhere else.

Are all planets subject to a matrix?

all planets, as all things are within the multiverse.

matrix is a mathematical concept similar to cross multiplication tables.
more a system of navigation than much else.

For some reason someone insisted it was just earth,

earth can be said to be unique in some ways,
but so can a spruce tree be said to be unique in a spruce forest.

I'd say this galaxy is unique, or perhaps a "backwater', something like the Aussies,
or "down under", where most people are still running around in water based bodies.
lol, it just seems so ridiculous.
oh well.

The ancients of this little galactic cluster seemed to have managed to make their portals not allow plastic or metal through, so that kept the robots away.
I myself had to get a water sack body to get through, I think I may have stowed myself in the body of a pet.
If you'll recall elves were historically "afraid" of iron, or didn't like it,
couldn't take it through portals.

though the newer folks, that in their ignorance have forgotten about the robots,
well they added the features again to allow metal and plastic through.
So it's only a matter of time.

but then they said that all the other planets are free,

ya free, well, if by that you mean "law of the jungle"
only the fringes dear.
Ya I keep chasing after those,
that's how I'm in this jungle of water sacks.

Though I do admit the nostalgia mounting up.
I'm thinking of recreating robot host bodies here with what's available.
Though by the wingmakers.com propecies there will be some animus arriving 2018ish possibly.

and others are sharing the wars, and fights to take back freedom
such as one4all, and another friend spoke to me of this too.

Ya fighting is boring.
OMG it's so drab.
Seriously,
I spent so much time on venus reviewing all the possible ways to tear a water sack to pieces,
it's noxiously easy, I feel overwhelmed with deliriously simple methods of extracting human waste from peoples esophagus.
"just reach in and grab it"

I think the realm I was in, is refered to here as "hell",
except for me, it was like a vacation.
Dieing next to impossible,
or actually I never really did die there,
it's like pure immortality.

anyhow, I got bored of all the fighting and male love making (violence).
so i floated up through the clouds and eventually got here

Wow, yes, I do earth as sentient, and all the cosmos, and even all energy itself. Also was told, in relation to deep space travel and wormholes, and traversing space that "energy is matter and matter is energy" which tended to open up the nonphysical/physical and being able to utilize this as needed. Along with living amino acid based crystals, as in cities, energy supplies and space crafts. Certainly not unintilligent sentience either, but impressive.
My own experiences on nature meditations this summer, where on meditating on a simple rock, trees, insects. And I kept seeing myself held, by grandfather mountain, grandfather trees/elders, and teachers within these. I stepped accidentally on a snail and very upset, because I had done a previous meditation on this and saw how as we branch out of the material world into the multiverse and developed our minds, we would be provided for.

So spontaneously in meditation, "he", or someone representing him and this thought, came as a lyrean/pleiadian male with long blond hair, led me through a forrest, explained that they were all teachers and we needed to excercise care and caution, took me to this edge of the moutain where I was overlooking higher dimensional skies, with several moons, colors of pinks, mauves, like nebulas, overlooking a surreal landscape, stretching into the cosmos of stars. He said I could seek him as a teacher any time.
My problem is I forget, then remember again.

Mother earth while kneeling on the grass showed me lying in the forrest and all the animals were my friends, yet I was still afraid of the bear, that came closer and had to work on casting out fear, and stretching telepathy. He came and batted my face with humor. But she held me too, except in this, I didn't sense her humor but sadness, and that she is not very happy with humans. We need to apologize. We have not taken responsibility. Though its a corporate/banker elite fault, they are the henchmen and she knows who is to blame, and though we lack a large dose of free will, we still need to consider in responsiblity how to respond to their system. How do we give them the one strike, two strike, three strikes, you're out, while still maintain our love, our dignity and our wish to raise our frequency. At what point do we physically rise up. Responsibiltiy means dealing with the problem until its gone.

Grandfather/father sun. I have thryoid/chronic fatigue. A lot of my experiencer/abductee friends seem to have thyroid problems. For the ones they take glandular secretions from and whom they wish to make forget, the thyroid is turned down or disappears, as in my case. For my one friend very active at night, and does work that he is now beginning to remember more fully, the thyroid is up. It is so convenient. however. I have gone out especially when the sun is just showing through the leaves and filtered and spend time greeting him.

He has a sense of humor and I call him grandfather sun. My scientific ple'o'sha'n friend wondered why I saw him like this, instead of more logistic intelligence sharing information from other systems that beam their energy towards him. Don't know. Maybe its because though my father and uncle were science based, I couldnt get into it, and am more like a sociologist/artis in nature, and want the whole cosmos text of lands and people restored to me ASAP, for I seem to recall I knew it. In any case, the first thing that happened as I blinked into the sunlight for energy was a joke was sent to me. The sun is a sentient being. I find myself nodding as if I understand whats being said, but dont get it consciously, bowing a bit, feeling happy. Everything always makes me very happy, and gives me joy. And getting called out at precisely those moments. He always calls me out now.


My friend told me that we must avoid red meat, and yet we still, until the new plane emerges, where we will be more sublte matter, still require fish and chicken, which has a lot of toxins in it. Those who can grow their own, and have trout farms would be very fortunate. But we should always ask, even if we did eat red meat, Mother, father sun, mother earth, and all of nature that provided for us, blessing, and thank them with gratitude, and attempt to clean up our eating habits. We do not need to take in the frequencies of trauma inflicted upon creatures and perferrably should move beyond.

He also told me that my people, the lyreans (I have a memory of being taken off planet, by ple'o'sha'ns before it was destoryed in the wars. And we were given a planet in the pleiades system amongst other systems) brought milk and cheese to their diet. Since then I have wondered kind of creature gives this, keep seeing one with long graceful horns. Also that they have their own unique gardens but enjoy foods much like our hot peppers and spicy cuisine.

The chakra's, is this the 12 chakra ones that I've been doing. This is very difficult, because the information, themes, colors, imagining blocks only goes to 7. I was told 8 was in our hands, 9 in our feet, 10-12 correspond with our solar system, galaxy and universe. I don't know what to picture them as so sometimes white stars, sometimes golden, and don't know what they correspond to, think of hands for serving, feet for traversing the multiverse. I only have my imagination to bring up this. But, I did notice something unusual happened.
In meditation, I just spontaneousy did the 12 ones, and the first time this happened, I began to wonder if it was incredibly wise to "put myself out there" in the universe. I got a lot of attention from several and from that moment on, had these strange experiences that involved talks of various councils, including the Sirian/Pleiadian one, and the Sirian one, and talks about "cultural exchanges" wherein I was the focus, and many different scenarios, what I ended up calling tests emerged.

Just when I fell back on the safe and sure feeling this was imagination, as I had been feeling the vibrations, I saw the most beautiful incredible craft, was told it was a high council craft. In the spot my family has normally witnessed crafts. This appeared briefly and flew forward then vanished, bigger than all the others, 80 TR3Bs could have fit in it or more. It was a gleaming molded smooth white lightship, solid, shuttle shaped with platoons at the back. Nothing online like this, no movie like this.

Didn't really like your experience in a hell zone there. Glad you raised above that. Hopefully they all will, and choose to be happy, because I truly dont see happiness in any of that, beauty, joy, unity, true friendships. Just sad really.

That chakra meditation I did, would really prefer a safer outline for how 12 Chakras really work. In that one, with the results, I did flash on earth being a living library, with the experiences we endure or go through very valuable to many people and cultures, and wondered if that was what he meant by cultural exchange.

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eh, if your just writing another book talking about the small things you can manifest through power of intention, with just a bunch of added chapters of blah blah, then dont waste your time. no offense, but we have enough of those. i wanna see something ground breaking. im gonna go back and read through your outline, but i have a feeling its no different then whats already out there. what are you bringing to the table? the same, you can manifest anything you want, but most likely it will be small, and you wont get it instantly? that crap always annoys me. so your saying i can manifest a car if i want in your theory, but your not saying that. to me it just shows a lack of confidence within the author himself, or just trying to dumb it down to not have someone read a part in the book that says you can literally manifest food out of thin air if you want, and have the reader throw the book to the side in disbelief.

you know, where are the true magicians. we have the theories, but where are they. probably living lavish lives on the down low, while everyone writes silly books about things they no little about, and have few experiences with. if your book doesnt go beyond what i can find in the law of attraction thread here, then your just wasting your time that could be better spent on something else.

we all know magic is very subjective, that astral realms exist, the little mind tricks to play on your consciousness to help manifesting for those who's will is shaky, ect... so now what. unless your bringing some new theory to the table that will have you levitating glass cups in 24 hours, and traveling through different dimensions, then well, why waste your time.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jimmy1200]

edit. so yeah, the planetary effects on people is the most interesting there. everything else. blah. magic is simple. we are over complicating it, and although somewhat still keeping its simplicity overall, we're just making it harder for people by overloading them with info.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jimmy1200]

I find much of this interesting. Especially this whole category which is not commonly found, especially since this is not related to astral realms, but the omniverse and Ets, and while much information from the mystery schools came from Atlantis and therefore Et origin, (in fact have been told that at the bottom of every mystery here on earth is Et). But coming from someone very conscious of his source and memories, this is very interesting. Perhaps its the different way people write to, the other books I found online didnt catch my imagination as much as this, and if he writes a book that sparks the imagination there will be some who notice:

Chapter 9: Planetary Influences and Brain Waves
Covers basic beliefs that be on planet.
Requirement of eating for sustenance.
Radio and Electromagnetic Interference.
Television 20hz hypnotic frequency,
programs people in passive acceptive mode.
Shoeman resonance.
Chapter 10: Solar System Influences
Phases of Moon and planets.
Tides, seasons, solar cycles.
Chapter 11: Galactic Influences
Star beings, Extra terrestrials.
Chapter 12: Universe Influences
Large integrated game, soul capture device.
Planetary Gateway Triangles.
hopping between planets.
Chapter 13: In Between Life Centers.

Chapter 14: Gateway universes.
World of Mountains,
Chapter 15: Multiverse Hopping
Descriptions of alternative universes.
Mental whisps, geometric solids.

I call it hopping,
that be closest sensation.
Local universe analogy of quantum particle wave.
up, down and around,
hop hop, hoppity, hop

Gateway universes. Multiverse hopping. Quantum particle wave???
World of mountains. Though probably not related, but I did see a vision of being in a tower, human looking female with long brown hair, wearing a gown with a protector beside me, and a dragon. The mountains were very sharp, very spiked, almost like an astroid. This occurred when my friend wanted me to reach out for his energy. He wanted to show me something, but instead I saw this. That usually happened with him.
He was surprised and said that was pre-andromedan galaxy, so one of the smaller galaxies that got absorbed. I couldnt relate it to a reality, but at the same time sensed a long time lapse, so keep that one filed.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by Unity_99]

Originally posted by Unity_99
I stepped accidentally on a snail and very upset,

instead can take advantage of the opportunity and make a wish,
as it was an animal sacrifice,
might as well make the most of it.

So spontaneously in meditation, "he", or someone representing him and this thought, came as a lyrean/pleiadian male with long blond hair, led me through a forrest, explained that they were all teachers and we needed to excercise care and caution, took me to this edge of the moutain where I was overlooking higher dimensional skies, with several moons, colors of pinks, mauves, like nebulas, overlooking a surreal landscape, stretching into the cosmos of stars. He said I could seek him as a teacher any time.
My problem is I forget, then remember again.

Ya I'm planning to move to forested mountains, in this incarnation. reviewed a future life on a twilighty planet, where I was wearing a red wizards cloak with white stars on it and a blue hat, basking on a hillside.

Responsibiltiy means dealing with the problem until its gone.

Lets call it a vibration, and we deal with it by bringing it into balance.

If one has anger than that can be balanced by patience.

Grandfather/father sun. I have thryoid/chronic fatigue. A lot of my experiencer/abductee friends seem to have thyroid problems. For the ones they take glandular secretions from and whom they wish to make forget, the thyroid is turned down or disappears, as in my case. For my one friend very active at night, and does work that he is now beginning to remember more fully, the thyroid is up. It is so convenient. however. I have gone out especially when the sun is just showing through the leaves and filtered and spend time greeting him.

Though healing is usually not one of my "primo-skills", from what I know of earth food, I would suggest kelp, which is rich in Iodine and many other nutrients.

could even do the iodine skin test stuff, where apply iodine, if it disappears in less than a day then you're low on iodine. though you can verify for exact times and such. The body would absorb it, if it found it useful.

He has a sense of humor and I call him grandfather sun. My scientific ple'o'sha'n friend wondered why I saw him like this, instead of more logistic intelligence sharing information from other systems that beam their energy towards him.

well clearly you understand who he is or how he operates.

In any case, the first thing that happened as I blinked into the sunlight for energy was a joke was sent to me. The sun is a sentient being. I find myself nodding as if I understand whats being said, but dont get it consciously, bowing a bit, feeling happy.

from what I've been able to understand, when a person laughs,
it's a magic spell to have that happen in the future,
or be a truth in the future.

So perhaps now it has manifested, as I was telling you about the sun's hominid manifestation on a nearby vibration. Clearly a sentient being in ways we could understand.

Everything always makes me very happy, and gives me joy.

yay!

My friend told me that we must avoid red meat, and yet we still, until the new plane emerges, where we will be more sublte matter, still require fish and chicken, which has a lot of toxins in it. Those who can grow their own, and have trout farms would be very fortunate.

I'm vegan. When moving to forest, plan on diet with a main component of inner bark.

But we should always ask, even if we did eat red meat, Mother, father sun, mother earth, and all of nature that provided for us, blessing, and thank them with gratitude, and attempt to clean up our eating habits. We do not need to take in the frequencies of trauma inflicted upon creatures and perferrably should move beyond.

well you are what you eat.
when I ate meat I felt like I was caged up in close quarters with other creatures.
as the pigs and chickens I was eating.
Now as a vegan, I feel like I grow in rows,
but there is at least a little more freedom,
the wind blows, the sun shines,
the sprinkler waters,
the herbicides are sticky.

but I make do, and a part of me wonders why I'm surrounded by brown earth and we're all growing on row by row, something tells me it's unnatural, oh well, I grow, oh the sun so warm and nice.

He also told me that my people, the lyreans (I have a memory of being taken off planet, by ple'o'sha'ns before it was destoryed in the wars. And we were given a planet in the pleiades system amongst other systems) brought milk and cheese to their diet. Since then I have wondered kind of creature gives this, keep seeing one with long graceful horns. Also that they have their own unique gardens but enjoy foods much like our hot peppers and spicy cuisine.

Ya, I'm told I was a lyran to. I remember mountains and forests and rivers. the oceans were much smaller than here.

Another question is about dualism itself. You said something that reminded me of my friend who is andross in source, and who has shared both nightly experiences, we exchanged notes early the next day, because I was told I was going to have the meeting, felt something placed on my head before sleep, started vibrating and fell asleep. And we were both there, we share the same advisors as well, a very tall andross dark haired male and a blond female, L'Arna, and Deir'dre'a'. He is adamant about dualism. He maintains that if we succeeded in redeeming a certain number, more would pop up on the other side in balance. He uses balance differently than I do. I had an experience when I was being monitored by Deir'dre'a' where she joined minds with me, and it was unbelievably incredible. She was so advanced, so calm, positive balanced, the word meant that she had a clarity of mind, and an expanded consciousness, and it was a gift. I felt such a poor gift in return. He took it to mean a balance between the two, light and dark over many years of experiences. Nope, never used it that way.

We end up in many discussions about dualism. I insist an maintain that as unity is the answer to any race progressing through the levels in the drake's formula to achieve a level 3 status, and unity is the answer to progressing through ascension, up through the planes of existence towards perfection, how could dualism as a universal law even allow unity to occur? I have felt that river of sorrow that comes from Mother, that my angellic friend spoke of. My son said he has always felt it.

I am interested in your view on this duality since it really is sounding much like my friends, and how that would allow unity to even occur. Without the unity, how would the universal understanding, which is the way advanced ETs experience a one mindedness, and communicate, they are connected occur? How would a race pull together anywhere were so many dark ones exist who do terrible things? To me unity, works with redemption, and everyone recovering and taking their various experiences, some good and some bad, all information, to add to the whole. How do you balance between two opposites such as dualism and unity?



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Originally posted by lowki
I prefer to call it being "safe and happy".

casting your own experience, gives a certain stability, and predictable serendipity.

May I ask what exactly is safety? Safe from what? What do you fear losing? Predictability is boring. Reeaaaally boring.

Stability though, that is something Im working on. Its a crazy world out there, you gotta have your anchor and sales tight and ready for when you encounter the big sea monsters or else your doomed to have a seriously intense experience. Not that you wont enjoy it afterwards realizing how badass you were, but pain is no good, so its good to know how to avoid it.

I'm not really sure what you mean by "out of mind".
do you mean out from mind?
or from chakras above the third yellow choosing mental chakra?

One could understand it as being out from mind if mind is the middle processor or the vehicle that takes you from nothing to nothing. But when you get there you gotta get OUT of the vehicle and see the scenario for real and not from behind the glass. Yeah sure you were in the vehicle before so you would also be coming out from it.

I dont know a lot about chakras. All I know is that I gotta keep them healthy, so once in a while I check on them and make sure they are doing good. I dont even know exactly what they are but I know when they are doing well and when they are not. They are like mystery fruit trees. One day you find seeds in the back of your mothers closet, where you couldnt reach when you were little. You discover all these marvoleous different seeds and make nice wholes for them in your backyard. Once in a while you water them if there isnt enough rain happening. Then one day you have these big trees with really good tasting fruits. Dont know what each of them are, but I like the variety. Sometimes I notice that pretty birds and nasty worms also taste my precious fruits. And equally I taste the fruits of other peoples trees once in a while.

so are you meaning to say that you are not experiencing a symbiosis of mind and body?
and that your body moves irrespective of you soul?
and so your soul is forced into a "watching state"?

I would suggest some present moment awareness meditation.
perhaps even some left right brain hemisphere balancing.
where you get to know your body better.
and how the two halves comes together to make you whole.

Kinda. My body seems way too flexible and I dont really know what to do with it or dont have the discipline for doing what I think I should. Yes, my body moves irrespective of my soul, but thats not what forces me into a watching state. Nothing forces me into a watching state. I enjoy the watching state, I look forward to it because it makes me feel good.

I already practice a lot of present moment awareness meditation. I like it.
Indeed I think I need some brain balancing, my left side hemisphere is much more active then my right hemishphere. The other day I noticed that I can easily close just my left eye but have a hard time closing just my right eye. Dont know if that has anything to do with it, but I figured it was odd.

anyone with volition does magick, whether or not they recognize it.
some people under certain self-mutilating belief systems think their "thoughts"
do not influence their physical experience.

this can be rather tragic sometimes, as they can get themselves into some grimy pits,
and then be in denial about how they thought themselves into it.

shrugging off the responsibility for steering your body through the multiverse,
can end up with beaching yourself on a rocky shore,
if you're lucky.

Thats true. I think you got me there. I do magic without recognizing it. But I try as much as possible to recognize when Im doing it and get rid of the doing. I try as much as possible to vanish with all my volition. I told you, I enjoy just watching.

Indeed it gets pretty tragic, but equally pretty funny. Ive seen people in denial, its truly terrible. But sometimes I just cant stop laughing at them.