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Originally posted by EsSeeEyeAs opposed to you, never furthering a thread and only popping in to attack the same few people each time? You sure showed him.
Originally posted by sphinx551
Originally posted by BrnBdry
Why would they?
Originally posted by radarloveguy
1930, lake Anjikuni , Canada
1200 residents , and their ancestors graves disappeared ,
Canadian Mounties reported mysterious lights in the sky......
That IS irrefutable evidence
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by UKWO1Phot
But don't we capture monkeys in the wild then take them to said zoo??
Yes, but that doesn't mean aliens are doing it.
I was then put on the ship again for a ride that lasted what I thought to be about an Earth day. I soon stepped into a very lush green and beautiful world they called Alderon. I was then taken through cities which had tall spires and buildings made of what appeared to be glass.
The sky was blue and the visual scapes were breathtakingly beautiful. The air was quite crisp with no pollution. I was told the water was very pure. Long ago, there had been problems with pollution that had found its way into the food chain. This was corrected and they had gone back to the food chain long since.
The fauna and animal life on Alderon is very close in similarity to that of the Earth. The atmosphere is richer in oxygen than Earth's with a 28 to 30 percent content.
The sunlight appears similar and the distance of their sun is more or less 93,000,000 miles away.
The primary difference between Earth and Alderon is the construction and landscaping. Where we have cities full of roads, macadam and homes, their planet is dominated by fauna and gardens. There are wide plains of grass and forests as well as large areas of primitive jungle. What I saw was an absolutely beautiful garden environment where the buildings were positioned in such a way as to accent the garden. The idea of this environment was that the ecosphere had priority. Oxygen replenishment was at the top of the list and human civilization was put in as an adjunct to the garden. It wasn't supposed to stand out but rather blend in with the garden environment.
I was given a tour of the city. The people looked just like humans and appeared very healthy. They did not appear to be controlled nor were they on drugs. From what I was told, the various individuals of the planet did what they were best suited for in accordance with what they wanted to do. There was no money system such as we know.
The buildings were a rectilinear type construction similar to our world except that the corners were rounded. There were no shingles or anything similar. The outside walls were a uniformed surface with the windows blended into the walls so that the smooth surface was maintained. Some of the buildings looked like they were of metallic construction while others appeared to be made of stone. There were different color schemes, but they were all designed to complement the landscape. Although none of the buildings were dome shaped or round, some of the structures had dome shaped windows which stood out like hemispherical bubbles.
The inside of the structures confused me and I couldn't figure out how the buildings were constructed. There were no panels or joints to reveal how things fit together. It looked like one amorphous wall. I could not see any welds on the walls, and I had to wonder if the whole configuration was molded in a big cast and put into place.
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Billy Meier was there first.
First man on the Pleiades.
Except he was taken there by a beautiful Swiss woman pilot in a Swiss saucer.
I missed his book but I think once there he went back in time
to the age of the dinosaur that looked like the Museum by 5th Avenue in New York City.
ED: All I have seen of ETs lately was a puppet looking through a window
and some reporter was going to investigate the video producer.
[edit on 10/23/2009 by TeslaandLyne]
Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
I related to Billy Meier as having the same location in his story.
Why is his story so known fakery and not this new one.
Once a fake location, always a fake location.
[edit on 10/23/2009 by TeslaandLyne]
Originally posted by Kokatsi
I am interested in some quotes on the physical structure of the Pleiades for I have not heard this before. Please post some sources.
Some of the Pleiades stars are rapidly rotating, at velocities of 150 to 300 km/sec at their surfaces, which is common among main sequence stars of a certain spectral type (A-B). Due to this rotation, they must be (oblate) spheroids rather than spherical bodies. The rotation can be detected because it leades to broadened and diffuse spectral absorption lines, as parts of the stellar surface approach us on the one side, while those on the opposite side recede from us, relative to the star's mean radial velocity. The most prominent example for a rapidly rotating star in this cluster is Pleione, which is also variable in brightness between mag 4.77 and 5.50 (Kenneth Glyn Jones). It was spectroscopically observed that between the years 1938 and 1952, Pleione has ejected a gas shell because of this rotation, as had been predicted by O. Struve.
Cecilia Payne-Gaposhkin mentions that the Pleiades contain some white dwarf (WD) stars. These stars give rise to a specific problem of stellar evolution: How can white dwarfs exist in such a young star cluster ? As it is not only one, it is most certain that these stars are original cluster members and not all field stars which have been captured (a procedure which does not work effectively in the rather loose open clusters anyway). From the theory of stellar evolution, it follows that white dwarfs cannot have masses above a limit of about 1.4 solar masses (the Chandrasekhar limit), as they would collapse due to their own gravitation if they were more massive. But stars with such a low mass evolve so slow that it takes them billions of years to evolve into that final state, not only the 100 million year age of the Pleiades cluster.
The only possible explanation seems to be that these WD stars were once massive so that they evolved fast, but due to some reason (such as strong stellar winds, mass loss to close neighbors, or fast rotation) have lost the greastest part of their mass. Possibly they have, in consequence, lost another considerable percentage of their mass in a planetary nebula. Anyway, the final remaining stars (which was previously the star's core) must have come below the Chandrasekhar limit, so that they could go into the stable white dwarf end state, in which they are now observed.
however to spare us pages and pages of circular arguments that never really bring us closer to any one truth, what can we do? How do we proceed?
Do we accept the argument that carries the higher probability of being true, or can we use a tool such as occams razor? Do we just leave it as a gray area and prevent those from either side making proclamations?