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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:10 PM by Skeptical Ed
Originally posted by sphinx551
It seems like Grey Aliens are taking some humans to Pleiades. The proof is Chapter 11 in the book:
www.courtneybrown.com...


There is no "proof" of "grey aliens" taking humans anywhere. Proof is irrefutable evidence. There is none in the book. "Scientific Remote Viewing" is not real science and its supporters do not require evidence, just a good tale which the author, a political "scientist"(!) provides. What the author in the book claims cannot be substantiated, therefore it's all in his mind!. The book is 13 years old!

And when you have Whitley Strieber and John Mack endorsing it, that is its death knell.



reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:20 PM by Chadwickus
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Here's a snippet from a very interesting article written by Scott O. Lilienfeld, a colleague of Brown's at Emory University:


In light of Brown's claims, I recently challenged him to a test of his alleged psychic abilities. I proposed that he appear at a meeting of my undergraduate seminar on Science and Pseudoscience in Psychology, where my students and I would subject him to a simple controlled experiment examining his capacity to remotely view stimuli in an adjacent room. I assured him that he would have considerable input regarding the selection of stimulus materials, and agreed to publicize the results of this test in both Emory newspapers regardless of its outcome.

But Brown categorically refused. His reasoning was curious: In his e-mail response to me, he asserted that "tests of the type you have talked about are very old hat" and that the current status of remote viewing "goes light years beyond that which your letter suggests." But if Brown's psychic powers are as advanced as he claims, shouldn't he be able to pass an elementary test of these powers with flying colors?

Brown also declined my offer on the grounds that he did "not want to drag Emory into my other activities" and that he is "rigorous about not mixing what I do elsewhere with what I do at Emory." This rationale seems disingenuous at best. If Brown did not wish to involve Emory in his exploits, why did he list his academic affiliation with Emory in his book and on his web site? Brown apparently wants to have it both ways: He publicizes his association with Emory when it might afford him the imprimatur of academic legitimacy, but refuses to submit to scientific tests by Emory colleagues on the grounds that he does not wish to "drag Emory" into a firestorm of controversy. But it is too late: Emory's reputation has already been besmirched. As George Armelagos of the Department of Anthropology notes, "Brown is naive if he believes his fantasies do not affect the image of the University."


www.emory.edu...


reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:21 PM by UKWO1Phot
reply to post by BrnBdry


Maybe not..

But don't we capture monkeys in the wild then take them to said zoo??



reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:54 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by BrnBdry


Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a monkey in the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why would they?


Funny how quickly and apparently unknowingly people can become so hypocritical on here. Where is YOUR proof that aliens are not taking people anywhere? Keep in mind absence of evidence is NOT proof of anything either way.

Your argument has as much evidence as the other does at this time. Just because there is no "absolute proof" of aliens abducting people does not make it not true. Alternatively, just because someone is claiming in a book that aliens are taking people to another star system does not mean that is true either.

There is simply not enough information either way to make such a confident judgement as you did.


reply to post by sphinx551

Well thanks for sharing, but unless you were giving us a advertising-like description of the book you shouldn't state that "the proof is in the book on chapter 12", that is erroneous and can be misleading.

Additionally, it is usually better if you might give us some of your OWN insights into what you think about this "proof", because honestly myself or many others are not going to sit down and waste our time reading this lengthy book just because it is yet another out of 1 MILLION plus that claim to "have the truth" in there.

While I do not doubt that based on the available evidence it is possible that alien abductions do exist, I feel that such claims as these that lack any type of even semi-solid evidence to back them up should remain considered in the HIGHLY SPECULATIVE parts of ufology, this type of thing is NOT what is needed right now in regards to getting more respectable mainstream attention.

While it might be prudent for any ufologist to have a read through this book and others, it should always be regarded as exactly what it is-super speculative with MUCH more evidence needed before such things can even be taken to another level besides conjecture in my humble opinion.

Thanks for sharing however.

[edit on 10/23/2009 by jkrog08]
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