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Topic started on 22-10-2009 @ 08:51 PM by sphinx551
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It seems like Grey Aliens are taking some humans to Pleiades. The proof is Chapter 12 in this book:
www.courtneybrown.com...
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:10 PM by 911Liar
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Well if it is in a book then it must be true. Furthermore it is on the web which makes it double true. Well I hope they treat folks nice on Pleadise
or wherever it is.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:10 PM by Skeptical Ed
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Originally posted by sphinx551
It seems like Grey Aliens are taking some humans to Pleiades. The proof is Chapter 11 in the book:
www.courtneybrown.com...
There is no "proof" of "grey aliens" taking humans anywhere. Proof is irrefutable evidence. There is none in the book. "Scientific Remote
Viewing" is not real science and its supporters do not require evidence, just a good tale which the author, a political "scientist"(!) provides.
What the author in the book claims cannot be substantiated, therefore it's all in his mind!. The book is 13 years old!
And when you have Whitley Strieber and John Mack endorsing it, that is its death knell.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:15 PM by BrnBdry
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Originally posted by 911Liar
Well if it is in a book then it must be true.
Yeah... just like the bible. No way that's just a group of stories made up by some people who polly had nothing better to do. That stuff is all true.
Yup, it's all true I tell ya. True.
Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a monkey in
the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why would
they?
Edit for spacing.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:18 PM by thereaintnospoon
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I briefly skimmed through the book, looks interesting, I will have to read a few pages tonight.
I have not heard much about the author, do have any other info?
Thanks.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:20 PM by Chadwickus
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Here's a snippet from a very interesting article written by Scott O. Lilienfeld, a colleague of Brown's at Emory University:
In light of Brown's claims, I recently challenged him to a test of his alleged psychic abilities. I proposed that he appear at a meeting of my
undergraduate seminar on Science and Pseudoscience in Psychology, where my students and I would subject him to a simple controlled experiment
examining his capacity to remotely view stimuli in an adjacent room. I assured him that he would have considerable input regarding the selection of
stimulus materials, and agreed to publicize the results of this test in both Emory newspapers regardless of its outcome.
But Brown categorically refused. His reasoning was curious: In his e-mail response to me, he asserted that "tests of the type you have talked about
are very old hat" and that the current status of remote viewing "goes light years beyond that which your letter suggests." But if Brown's psychic
powers are as advanced as he claims, shouldn't he be able to pass an elementary test of these powers with flying colors?
Brown also declined my offer on the grounds that he did "not want to drag Emory into my other activities" and that he is "rigorous about not mixing
what I do elsewhere with what I do at Emory." This rationale seems disingenuous at best. If Brown did not wish to involve Emory in his exploits, why
did he list his academic affiliation with Emory in his book and on his web site? Brown apparently wants to have it both ways: He publicizes his
association with Emory when it might afford him the imprimatur of academic legitimacy, but refuses to submit to scientific tests by Emory colleagues
on the grounds that he does not wish to "drag Emory" into a firestorm of controversy. But it is too late: Emory's reputation has already been
besmirched. As George Armelagos of the Department of Anthropology notes, "Brown is naive if he believes his fantasies do not affect the image of the
University."
www.emory.edu...
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:21 PM by RoyalCanadian
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do you have any pictures you can show us of these aliens taking humans? that would be conisidered proof I think.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:21 PM by UKWO1Phot
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Maybe not..
But don't we capture monkeys in the wild then take them to said zoo??
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:23 PM by LiquidLight
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Originally posted by BrnBdry
Originally posted by 911Liar
Well if it is in a book then it must be true.
Yeah... just like the bible. No way that's just a group of stories made up by some people who polly had nothing better to do. That stuff is all true.
Yup, it's all true I tell ya. True.
Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a monkey in
the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why would
they?
Edit for spacing.
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While I agree that the OP's source is ridiculous, I don't believe they view us like "animals in a zoo." We are intelligent, capable of forming
complex thoughts and performing complex tasks. We are probably closer in intelligence to them than chimps are to us.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:25 PM by DoomsdayRex
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Originally posted by UKWO1Phot
But don't we capture monkeys in the wild then take them to said zoo??
Yes, but that doesn't mean aliens are doing it.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:25 PM by reasonable
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Hey peeps, I just got back WHEW!! What a trip! Pleiades is amazing! Will post pics soon, gotta unpack first.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:26 PM by Redge
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I'm gonna be honest with you; I read this book like I read any other science-fiction book or story. To me, this is entertainment. Nothing more.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:30 PM by UKWO1Phot
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by UKWO1Phot
But don't we capture monkeys in the wild then take them to said zoo??
Yes, but that doesn't mean aliens are doing it.
I wasn't saying they are..
Just pointing out the logic..
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:31 PM by sphinx551
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Originally posted by LiquidLight
While I agree that the OP's source is ridiculous, I don't believe they view us like "animals in a zoo."
I think they do. Aliens are probably laughing at how "uncivilized, ignorant and creeps" humans are compared to them.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:32 PM by ufoptics
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Thanks for the link....it looks like a very interesting read. I'll let you know what I think.
Cheers
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:33 PM by MrFox1414
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Originally posted by BrnBdry
Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a monkey in
the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why would
they?
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To be fair, why would they view us as "animals in a zoo"? Wouldn't they view us as "animals in the wild"? And yes, we do snatch animals out of
the wild and then return them...all the time.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:33 PM by Skeptical Ed
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Originally posted by reasonable
Hey peeps, I just got back WHEW!! What a trip! Pleiades is amazing! Will post pics soon, gotta unpack first.
Does your "bum" hurt? Can you sit down? Is diarrhea easier to deal with? 
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:34 PM by sphinx551
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Originally posted by BrnBdry
Why would they?
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:47 PM by Caveat Lector
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Originally posted by BrnBdry
Originally posted by 911Liar
Well if it is in a book then it must be true.
Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a monkey in
the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why would
they?
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Well a few hundred years ago Captain James Cook, took with consent, a native (I believe from Vanuatu) back to London. Cook kept his word and returned
him to his homeland a few years later. This wasn't for research, slavery, anything like that - it was purely because both parties agreed and it would
be cool to do so.
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reply posted on 22-10-2009 @ 09:54 PM by jkrog08
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Aliens aren't taking people anywhere. Why would they? If they view us, like we view "animals in a zoo", do we feel the need to snatch a
monkey in the middle of the night while it's sleeping, drive it to Chicopee Massachusetts, and then return it to the zoo just to do it? NO. Then why
would they?
Funny how quickly and apparently unknowingly people can become so hypocritical on here. Where is YOUR proof that aliens are not taking people
anywhere? Keep in mind absence of evidence is NOT proof of anything either way.
Your argument has as much evidence as the other does at this time. Just because there is no "absolute proof" of aliens abducting people does not
make it not true. Alternatively, just because someone is claiming in a book that aliens are taking people to another star system does not mean that is
true either.
There is simply not enough information either way to make such a confident judgement as you did.
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Well thanks for sharing, but unless you were giving us a advertising-like description of the book you shouldn't state that "the proof is in the book
on chapter 12", that is erroneous and can be misleading.
Additionally, it is usually better if you might give us some of your OWN insights into what you think about this "proof", because honestly myself or
many others are not going to sit down and waste our time reading this lengthy book just because it is yet another out of 1 MILLION plus that claim to
"have the truth" in there.
While I do not doubt that based on the available evidence it is possible that alien abductions do exist, I feel that such claims as these that lack
any type of even semi-solid evidence to back them up should remain considered in the HIGHLY SPECULATIVE parts of ufology, this type of thing is
NOT what is needed right now in regards to getting more respectable mainstream attention.
While it might be prudent for any ufologist to have a read through this book and others, it should always be regarded as exactly what it is- super
speculative with MUCH more evidence needed before such things can even be taken to another level besides conjecture in my humble opinion.
Thanks for sharing however.
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