Police: Man ran down 'too Westernized' daughter, page 7

reply to post by oozyism

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Nice try. Try to keep with the subject and not flame.
This man accused of honor killing will deny that he attempted an honor killing and contend that he is justified in his actions according to Islam. Come back in 2 years and see.

Originally posted by JJay55
reply to post by oozyism

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Nice try. Try to keep with the subject and not flame.
This man accused of honor killing will deny that he attempted an honor killing and contend that he is justified in his actions according to Islam. Come back in 2 years and see.

Flame sure lol

To sum it all up and leave this thread:

Originally posted by JJay55

Honor killing isn't wrong in Islam. People who commit honor killing are not prosecuted. Honor killing is an obligation. There is nothing honorable about it. No muslims will protest it.
That's really a shame.

Protest, what? You want them to go in the streets and start protesting against something which everyone knows is wrong?

This practice of ‘honour killing’ is a form of murder without trial, which is contrary to
Islam. Islam upholds the sanctity of human life, as the Holy Qur’an declares that
killing one innocent human being is akin to killing the entire human race (Qur’an
5:32, 6:151, 17:33). Like all other faith traditions, Islam considers all forms of life as
sacred. There is certainly no justification for such a practice of “Honour Killing” in
Islamic Law (Shariah).

Something which is done outside the law, hence honor killings is wrong in Islam. When you sign an agreement with Western government you are obliged to follow that agreement.



[edit on 30-10-2009 by oozyism]

reply to post by oozyism

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Yeah, they should go out on the streets and protest to denounce these honor killings, and if any of their local religious leaders support this type of act, they should denounce these religious leaders for the scum bags they are.

Just the way that people came out against the catholic church when it was found out that they were harboring pedophiles.

They need to get themselves a honor killing watch, like the Amber alert.

Anytime it looks like some father is plotting his daughters demise, publish his name.

Chance are very high that most of these honor killings are carried out at the urgency of the local cleric, and these clerics should be questioned by the authorities and carefully watched.

Any clerics who make any speeches to support these honor killing activities, warning Muslim children that they will be punished for adapting western ways and all that should be arrested for advocating violence.

It is a form of extortion.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by oozyism

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Yeah, they should go out on the streets and protest to denounce these honor killings, and if any of their local religious leaders support this type of act, they should denounce these religious leaders for the scum bags they are.

Just the way that people came out against the catholic church when it was found out that they were harboring pedophiles.

They need to get themselves a honor killing watch, like the Amber alert.

Anytime it looks like some father is plotting his daughters demise, publish his name.

Chance are very high that most of these honor killings are carried out at the urgency of the local cleric, and these clerics should be questioned by the authorities and carefully watched.

Any clerics who make any speeches to support these honor killing activities, warning Muslim children that they will be punished for adapting western ways and all that should be arrested for advocating violence.

It is a form of extortion.

Weird dynamic of this crime is that if the mother speaks out she is usually beaten so she has to participate in the tradition. This religion uses threats against their own in their sickness. Yes, it would be nice if there were muslim protest to these crimes but so far there aren't. Only American law is going after those who try to enforce Sharia Law in the US. Many court systems, along with local media, are unaware of the real issue and deny honor killing exists. I was contacted by a reporter for the Orlando Sentinal to interview about Asqi and he didn't want to hear anything negative about Islam. This is because of pressure from CAIR. So muslims have a tight little group that continue to commit these crimes in the US.

reply to post by JJay55

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We dont need to understand Jack . If I go to a Muslim country, fornicate in public, drink all day , and make rude gestures at police persons, then I EXPECT a kick in the butt. I do not expect people to make allowances for me in foriegn lands , and nor should they expect such from me or mine.

Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by JJay55

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We dont need to understand Jack . If I go to a Muslim country, fornicate in public, drink all day , and make rude gestures at police persons, then I EXPECT a kick in the butt. I do not expect people to make allowances for me in foriegn lands , and nor should they expect such from me or mine.

Yet the UK is caving into Sharia Law everyday. With a 50% population of muslims in a few more years that will be harder to control.
Many in the US don't even understand Islam, we think it's plural (accepting of other religions) like Christianity, and it is not.

reply to post by JJay55

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Thanks for the infor JJ. I think that we need to get on top of this hear in the U.S. before it becomes a real problem, or maybe I should say a bigger problem.

I hope we don't see radicals taking over the Muslim communities in the U.S.

Are you a practicing Muslim?

reply to post by poet1b

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Seems like the press picked up this one right. Glad to see some have the balls:
"EVERETT, Wash. -- A 61-year-old man accused of beating his brother to death in Lynnwood told Snohomish County sheriff's detectives it was an honor killing to avenge an insulting remark.

In a police statement filed Thursday in Everett District Court, 61-year-old Mehdi M. Matin says more than 20 years ago his brother uttered words about his bride-to-be so terrible the wedding was called off. Both men are from Afghanistan."

I was never a practicing muslim. I studied Islam for 40 years and understand the practice.

reply to post by JJay55

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Weird dynamic of this crime is that if the mother speaks out she is usually beaten so she has to participate in the tradition. This religion uses threats against their own in their sickness. Yes, it would be nice if there were muslim protest to these crimes but so far there aren't. Only American law is going after those who try to enforce Sharia Law in the US. Many court systems, along with local media, are unaware of the real issue and deny honor killing exists. I was contacted by a reporter for the Orlando Sentinal to interview about Asqi and he didn't want to hear anything negative about Islam. This is because of pressure from CAIR. So muslims have a tight little group that continue to commit these crimes in the US.

I just brought you evidence that there is no such thing as honor killings in Sharia and then you state that there is again? WTF you are a waste of time, you are repeating youself over and over again. I don't think it makes it true if you keep repeating yourself JJ. Don't waste your time and mine.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by oozyism

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Yeah, they should go out on the streets and protest to denounce these honor killings, and if any of their local religious leaders support this type of act, they should denounce these religious leaders for the scum bags they are.

Just the way that people came out against the catholic church when it was found out that they were harboring pedophiles.

They need to get themselves a honor killing watch, like the Amber alert.

Anytime it looks like some father is plotting his daughters demise, publish his name.

Chance are very high that most of these honor killings are carried out at the urgency of the local cleric, and these clerics should be questioned by the authorities and carefully watched.

Any clerics who make any speeches to support these honor killing activities, warning Muslim children that they will be punished for adapting western ways and all that should be arrested for advocating violence.

It is a form of extortion.

ZZZ it is a cultural thing, how am I suppose to make you understand?

OK how many people get killed for thousands of different reasons in the US? Do you see protests every day against those killings? The people know it is wrong, that is why they support the laws which punishes those who commit such actions. By supporting those laws they are protesting.

It is idiotic the least to go outside and protest against every reason why someone is being killed for?

It is wrong, there are laws to punish those who do the wrong, that is enough.

I want you to go out right now and protest against the rape of this girl.

girl
Get it?

reply to post by oozyism

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[6:140] Losers Indeed are those who slay their children out of senseless ignorance and forbid the sustenance which Allah has bestowed upon them, in order to fabricate lies against Allah; they have undoubtedly gone astray and not attained the path.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by _Phoenix_]

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